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The Fade Of Cathay Pacific's B-Hon

Sun Jun 24, 2001 3:56 am

B-HON is the newest member of Cathay Pacific's B 747-300 fleet. It is about 10 years old. However, it is now sitting in a desert collecting dust.

The reason why B-HON cannot find a customer for it is because it has similar cockpit design of the B 747-400 and airlines would rather choose the B 747-400 instead.

So, what will happen to B-HON? Will it be scrapped? Hell no! I hope not!

Will it rejoin Cathay as a Passenger, or even Cargo Aircraft? Or will it simply be sold? Or leased out?

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RE: The Fade Of Cathay Pacific's B-Hon

Sun Jun 24, 2001 4:01 am

The reason why B-HON cannot find a customer for it is because it has similar cockpit design of the B 747-400 and airlines would rather choose the B 747-400 instead.

Wrong as usual Desmond.

The 743 has cockpit commonality with the 742 and earlier variants and not with the 744. That was one of the main reasons that CX got rid of the 743s from their fleet to start with.

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RE: The Fade Of Cathay Pacific's B-Hon

Sun Jun 24, 2001 5:24 am

Try to find us some factual information for a change, will you?
 
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RE: The Fade Of Cathay Pacific's B-Hon

Sun Jun 24, 2001 5:40 am

So, what will happen to B-HON? Will it be scrapped? Hell no! I hope not!

Hell yes, it's gonna be scrapped. Maybe you'll get to drink Coca-Cola out of it, when they turn it into soda cans.  Acting devilish
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RE: The Fade Of Cathay Pacific's B-Hon

Sun Jun 24, 2001 5:49 am

The reason -Hon was left behind while other -300s were leased out is because it has a different wing-root design, simular to the 744. This feature was also added to a couple of very late 743s and I believe, some 742s.

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RE: The Fade Of Cathay Pacific's B-Hon

Sun Jun 24, 2001 6:03 am

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RE: The Fade Of Cathay Pacific's B-Hon

Sun Jun 24, 2001 6:03 am

Tony/B767-400ER,
Your information is bang on! B-HON does have a B747-400-style wingroot, unlike the rest of Cathay Pacific's B747-300 fleet.

I was initially unsure, but a quick check of the photo database proved you are absolutely correct.

B-HON, with the B747-400-style wingroot;

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AP-BFX, ex-Cathay Pacific B747-300 with the classic-style wingroot;

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Nice to hear from a younger member of the forum who can provide some very positive, useful and accurate information. I definately wasn't aware of that info, and I'm sure many others didn't know, thanks!

Hope to speak to you again soon Tony...

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RE: The Fade Of Cathay Pacific's B-Hon

Sun Jun 24, 2001 6:16 am

How are the cockpits similiar? If I recall, the 744 has a flight crew of 2, and the 743 has a crew of 3. That's a pretty big difference, no?
 
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RE: The Fade Of Cathay Pacific's B-Hon

Sun Jun 24, 2001 6:19 am

Interesting info as I was unaware of that fact as well. Question retracted.
 
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RE: The Fade Of Cathay Pacific's B-Hon

Sun Jun 24, 2001 7:21 am

God damn! For the last few days every United Airline's post I read is being criticized! Dont be so hard on him. Hahaha.
 
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RE: The Fade Of Cathay Pacific's B-Hon

Sun Jun 24, 2001 7:24 am

Dont be so hard on him

He brings it on himself. Admit it...
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RE: The Fade Of Cathay Pacific's B-Hon

Sun Jun 24, 2001 10:36 am

Sorry guys! I admit that I have made a mistake on this.

B-HON has the B 747-400 style winglet, but not similar cockpits.

B-HON is about 10-12 years old. Unlike other B 743s (which are leased to PIA), B-HON is sitting in a desert collecting dust.

It should be able to find a home for itself. CX is still looking for a buyer for B-HON and hopefully someone might wanna buy it.

 
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RE: The Fade Of Cathay Pacific's B-Hon

Sun Jun 24, 2001 10:52 am

"It should be able to find a home for itself. CX is still looking for a buyer for B-HON and hopefully someone might wanna buy it."

United Airline, after you took your name off my respected users list I went into my room amd cried for an hour, what happened?  Big grin

I am sure that our friend B-HON will be able to find himself a home if he gets his act straight and stops spending his money on liquor and drugs.  Smile

but really, there are numerous freight operators out there like Atlas Air who are looking for second-hand 747s with low hours on them. B-HON would be a very good canidate for Cargo conversion.

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RE: The Fade Of Cathay Pacific's B-Hon

Sun Jun 24, 2001 10:55 am

remember it has RR engines though.....difficult to fit into anyone's fleet, although it can go where these ex-BA 742s are going after their freighter conversions. Any ideas where those are going? One is nearly ready to leave HKG as a freighter.
 
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RE: The Fade Of Cathay Pacific's B-Hon

Sun Jun 24, 2001 11:00 am

As a matter of fact, I think I can make out the regestration "B-HON" in my can of Pepsi. Let us all remember B-HON as I consume my Pepsi.

-Tom
 
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CX-Flyboy

Sun Jun 24, 2001 11:04 am

"remember it has RR engines though.....difficult to fit into anyone's fleet, although it can go where these ex-BA 742s are going after their freighter conversions. Any ideas where those are going? One is nearly ready to leave HKG as a freighter."

Well, it's not like Atlas is very good on standardizing on one engine type. I could have sworn I saw a pic of a RB.211 742 in Atlas colors.

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RE: The Fade Of Cathay Pacific's B-Hon

Sun Jun 24, 2001 11:07 am

One of the staff at CX told me that B-HON would most likely be converted into freighters. Scrapyard would be the last resort for it. So.........

 
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RE: The Fade Of Cathay Pacific's B-Hon

Sun Jun 24, 2001 12:00 pm

Well, it's not like Atlas is very good on standardizing on one engine type.

Actually, Atlas is COMPLETELY standardized on the GE CF6s. No exceptions.
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RE: The Fade Of Cathay Pacific's B-Hon

Sun Jun 24, 2001 2:35 pm

As far as I know, Atlas has no Rolls Royce freighters at all.
 
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RE: The Fade Of Cathay Pacific's B-Hon

Sun Jun 24, 2001 6:54 pm

United Airline:

One of the staff at CX told me that B-HON would most likely be converted into freighters. Scrapyard would be the last resort for it. So.........

Hmm,I didn't know that there are TWO B-HON aircraft!! LOL.Goodness Desmond,another of your useless posts...


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RE: The Fade Of Cathay Pacific's B-Hon

Sun Jun 24, 2001 8:01 pm

Gundu has been let out of the closet again..........
 
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Mon Jun 25, 2001 1:55 am

No, Atlas did have a few JT9 powered 747-100Fs a little while ago, but I was mistaken in thinking that they still had them. And I could have sworn I saw a pic of an Atlas Rb powered 742F.

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RE: The Fade Of Cathay Pacific's B-Hon

Mon Jun 25, 2001 5:51 am

United Airline wrote "B-HON has the B 747-400 style winglet". Are you sure about that? I thought it was just the wingroot that was the same.
 
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RE: The Fade Of Cathay Pacific's B-Hon

Mon Jun 25, 2001 7:32 am

Are you sure about that? I thought it was just the wingroot that was the same.

Dude, its all the same to him....

I've seen trained monkeys make more sense than Desmond does.
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RE: The Fade Of Cathay Pacific's B-Hon

Mon Jun 25, 2001 1:55 pm

I have seen UNTRAINED monkeys making more sense than many users. And someone is a chump to be honest.
 
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RE: The Fade Of Cathay Pacific's B-Hon

Mon Jun 25, 2001 2:00 pm

man forget it. If there is no buyer it wil eventually be scrapped.
 
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RE: The Fade Of Cathay Pacific's B-Hon

Mon Jun 25, 2001 3:54 pm

Qantas737:I heard that!!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


Untied Airline:Goodness,how can an untrained monkey make more sense than a couple of users?Monkeys are uncivilized,while forum users are MORE civilized than you.


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RE: The Fade Of Cathay Pacific's B-Hon

Mon Jun 25, 2001 6:45 pm

B-HON I guess will be converted to a freighter they won't scrap it are you crazy someone will have it.

Guys you should look at yourselves monkeymen its not the end of the world if spelling is incorrect. You are all well trained monkeys, although untrained ones pay real pointless visits sometimes but they don't last long.

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RE: The Fade Of Cathay Pacific's B-Hon

Mon Jun 25, 2001 8:00 pm

You lot need to grow up and stop bitch'n about each other, you all like a couple of old granma's with nothing better to do then have a good moan! every post that has the three of you in has just gone to sh*t. Your gona bring this forum down.
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RE: The Fade Of Cathay Pacific's B-Hon

Tue Jun 26, 2001 1:28 am

Gundu, although I am not totally disagreeing with you on this matter, but ''I feel that the moderation of the forums is still poor. But at least everything's all right now. (from your info). If your are so disappointed with the moderation of the forum that you even nearly stopped posting, why don't you think about yourself first ?

no offence, just an advice

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