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AN225

Fri Jun 29, 2001 8:49 pm

I was wondering what you guys think about the AN225 MRIYA.
Does the plane make a chance??
I think it does.
Because already one airline (I don't know wich one) bought the prototype and has an option for 2 more aircraft.
They think the first commercial flight will be within 2 months.
So what do you guys think of this plane????

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RE: AN225

Fri Jun 29, 2001 9:21 pm

I think it is realy big  Smile It also looks awesome. I touched it 6 year ago in Kiev
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RE: AN225

Fri Jun 29, 2001 9:32 pm

I saw it at Le Bourget last week, and went aboard. Makes the 747 look like a midget.

The Ant-124 has proven to be capable of being operated at a profit. Will the An-225 have the same success? Who knows? Good luck to them however.

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RE: AN225

Mon Jul 02, 2001 3:30 am

Sorry for my late reply.
I was off-line some days.

I would say give the plane a chance.
The AN124 is good so the AN225 will also be good if you ask me.

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RE: AN225

Mon Jul 02, 2001 3:36 am

The An225 handles more cargo, If you could get it filled it will be profitable. The only problem with profitability will probably be the 6 engines. I don't know if the new version has western (read. more efficient) engines, if it does the aircraft will be profitable. With a few adjustments it even may compete with the cargoversion of the A380.
 
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RE: AN225

Mon Jul 02, 2001 3:42 am

It seems you can offer the plane with P&W engines.
And it well be profitabil.
Maybe Airbus can even use the plane the transport the wings or other parts of the A380 with the AN225.
Before building the A300-600 (guppy) they have thought the use of some AN124.

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RE: AN225

Mon Jul 02, 2001 4:19 am

The AN-225 bought? By whom? 2 Options? Great news if ...true!
Some precisions:
*The new motors have been adapted for Chapter 3, but my question is, did the Mriya have been equipped with EFIS flight Deck?
*For the comparision between A380F and AN-225, the 225, i think, have a greater payload, and a greater capacity, but I don't think the engines to be so thirsty, and if they were, the customers are more interested by the ability to move big payload faster than by sea...so, they wouldn't care a lot about the engines need...  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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RE: AN225

Mon Jul 02, 2001 5:00 am

The building of the second AN 225, at Kiev - Svyetoshino, has been resumed a few months ago.
 
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RE: AN225

Mon Jul 02, 2001 10:38 am

An225 is built at KYIV-Gostomel.

It does have new more efficient engines, built by Moto-Sich, also based in Ukraine. (Amazing the russians didn't try to get a piece of this project and screw it up too) It does have new avionics, but they are just more modern, not glass cockpit. No one bought it, it is and will be owned by the Antonov-Design Bureau and operated by Antonov Airlines, the second one is being slowly finished, but that will probably take a few years.

If it wasn;t from influence and restriction from the "East" Antonov would be a prime new member for the Airbus cunsortium in my oppinion. They could head up the cargo aircraft devision with all of their experiance, they know what they are doing, and already have much of the work finished. Airbus has stated numerous times that they want to build a small cargo aircraft, Antonov already has that in the AN-70, and the AN-124/-225 would both bring massive information in designing and building planes like that A380, and would also be perfect for carrying the huge parts of other airbus planes accross Europe to compliment the Baluga.
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RE: AN225

Mon Jul 02, 2001 3:56 pm

IF ADB is going to fly the plane we probebly will see the plane within some months in Western Europe.
For example in Belgium at Ostend Airport.
HEre a lot of Russian operators can be seen here.
Dozens of IL76's and AN124's.
So why not also the AN225?

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RE: AN225

Mon Jul 02, 2001 4:18 pm

Hmmmm....

It's possible for it to be profitable. the Russian aircraft industry, to the best of my knowledge, has been very slow. So if the AN-225 takes off, if you will, it might be the jolt the Russian manufacturers need. Who bought the prototype, though?

It's rather interesting as well that it has 6 engines. With that you could haul almost any payload, and with this baby you don't need to worry about an engine failure!! Big grin


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RE: AN225

Mon Jul 02, 2001 4:29 pm

ADB has bought the prototype.
And is going the operate it within 2 months in civel service I just heard.

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RE: AN225

Mon Jul 02, 2001 4:33 pm

ADB????

Never heard of.....  Confused
 
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RE: AN225

Mon Jul 02, 2001 4:37 pm

Antonov Design Bureau.
Antonovs own Airline.
Also know as Antonov Airlines.

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RE: AN225

Mon Jul 02, 2001 6:22 pm

No one bought it. Antonov built it and so they own it!! ADB builds and maintains the airplane, it is operated by Antonov Airlines which is a joint venture with two UK companies.

Aloha 737-200: Why would a UKRAINIAN!!!!! Airplane give the russian industry any stimulation?
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RE: AN225

Mon Jul 02, 2001 9:28 pm

Sorry Slawko,
I thought ADB had to pay for their planes.

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Slawko

Tue Jul 03, 2001 12:12 am

Slawko says:

> Aloha 737-200: Why would a
> UKRAINIAN!!!!! Airplane give the
> russian industry any stimulation?

...BECAUSE Most of the components and suppliers are (like it or not) are Russian.

Slawko, PLEASE try to see it logically. You may have an extreme dislike of Russian people and companies generally, but they depend on Ukraine and Ukrainian companies depend on Russia - as much as they are trying to divorce eachother.

In my experience, the politics and sabre-rattling that goes on between all of the former Soviet Union countries is mostly for the benefit of the media while on a technical and professional level, they simply GET ON WITH THE JOB! I have never heard a Ukrainian or Russian professional slagging off the other nationality. Mutual respect. I have had a lot of dealings with both sides!

If Antonov needs a new type of propeller for their superb new *Ukrainian* An-70, what's wrong with buying it from Zvezda-Strela? After all, Russian airlines are going to buy half of their new Tu-334s from Aviant, and 100% of their engines from Motor Sich!

Achivements of the Soviet Union are indivisible between the now independednt countries.

However the *Ukrainian* Antonov Design Bureau has achived a staggering success by getting it back into the air and the *Ukrainian* Motor Sich has too, by providing six very efficient and modern engines.

Another problem (and I think it is the case in this instance) is that Westerners and particularly Americans tend to throw anything Cold, Dark and Eastern (not true ofcourse but thats the stereotype) into the same "basket".

Very sad. Very ignorant but who is going to re-educate the western world? CNN?

Just in case you were wondering about my loyalties, I don't really have any, except for having a UA girlfreind. If I had to make the choice, I would live in Ukraine. So I'm not anti-you .. just fair!
 
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RE: Slawko

Tue Jul 03, 2001 1:01 am

Ben

I pretty much agree with all that you said, and my comments were not so much anti Russian as there were anti-ignorant American. I would however disagree with your comments when you said that: "I have never heard a Ukrainian or Russian professional slagging off the other nationality. Mutual respect. I have had a lot of dealings with both sides!" I know for a fact that in business, at least in Ukraine unless you speak russian, and do not show that you are Ukrainian you will not get very far, and I have had that discussion here before, but I seem to be in a minority here on this forum, as I am one of the few Ukes on here, and many russians on this forum take offence to me pointing out how badly their nation treats mine when it wants to show some of it's own independance and strength. I understand the relationship that exists between these countries, and I am all for Interdependance, I am against domination, redicule, and persecution, just because country wants it;s own language, and real Independance.
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