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How Do They Do It?

Tue Jul 03, 2001 8:17 pm

Yesterday while reading my monthly issue of airliners world i started wondering something.

United Airlines is known to be an Airbus lover  Big thumbs up
they have a lot of those birds flying.
now here comes the question. e.g. The A319 is build in Hamburg if i am correct, well how do they get those A319's to the US ???

Do they fly the leg with more then one stop or what ???
what is the official procedure for this.

any help thanx in advance.

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saab2000
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RE: How Do They Do It?

Tue Jul 03, 2001 8:21 pm

Depending on the plane, most of the time they just fuel them up and fly them over. Of course, the 319 does not have the range to make it to Canada or the US non-stop. They probably stop in Iceland and Gander. Most planes have more fuel capacity than needed. When full-fuelled they should have an endurance of about 5+ hours.
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RE: How Do They Do It?

Tue Jul 03, 2001 8:25 pm

The A319, depending on options, has a range of up to 3500 miles loaded. Without passengers, substantially farther. The CJ, basically a A319 with extra tanks, can fly up to 6500 miles.

If the plane cannot cross the ocean in one hop, it will make stops along the way. Rekyavik and Gander are common stops.

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RE: How Do They Do It?

Tue Jul 03, 2001 8:27 pm

Actually the 319 could fly from England or even France to New Foundland, or Nova Scotia non stop, expecially with no people. and if they make a stop in Canada from Europe and then put the plane into service, like for example fly it from Hamburg to Paris, then Halifax and then send it to Toronto to operate a flight from Toronto to Denver they do not have to pay the huge import taxes on the airplane. But back to your first question, the plane is empty so it has a bit more range, and it makes stops along the way, but if it has to cross the pacific and can not make a stop along the way they fit the plane with extra fuel tanks inside the passenger cabin.
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RE: How Do They Do It?

Tue Jul 03, 2001 9:53 pm

I read about the Airbus factory at Hamburg in the German magazine Aero. In this article it was stated that the "mini"-Airbusses tranfering to American customers used two different routings. Either with stops at Shannon and Gander or with a single stop in Iceland. The route is often specified by the airline which is taking delivery of the aircraft as their own crews might be in charge of the flight for pratice or testing.

You see the same procedure with "Baby"-Boeings headed for Europe and De Havilland / Bombardier.

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RE: How Do They Do It?

Tue Jul 03, 2001 9:54 pm

If I'm not mistaken, the rules are different for a non-revenue flight. The ETOPS rules don't apply quite the same way.
 
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RE: How Do They Do It?

Tue Jul 03, 2001 10:50 pm

There is no ETOPS restriction on a non-rev, or ferry flight.
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RE: How Do They Do It?

Tue Jul 03, 2001 11:16 pm

Always wondered that...
 
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RE: How Do They Do It?

Wed Jul 04, 2001 12:45 am

There are A319's doing 5+ hour flights from coast to coast in the USA !!
 
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RE: How Do They Do It?

Wed Jul 04, 2001 5:18 am

I have always wondered about the same thing. Being from Thailand, I had always wondered how the "baby boeing" 737s made it there (for Thai). Naturally, they couldn't have made it through the pacific. I guess they must have taken the Iceland route.

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