jtdieffen
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Lufthansa In Boston

Wed Jul 04, 2001 2:23 pm

I'm a German newspaper coorespondant and an avid Lufty-fan, and always have been, since no less than 75% of my travelling has been done with the German carrier. I follow the news as best I can, but being American, I sometimes fall out of the loop. Now I live in Boston most of the time (when I'm not on assignment) and make frequent trips on LH through Logan. Currently, there are two daily flights utilizing a classic 747 on the early flight and an A340 on the latter. With A340-600's on order to replace the aging Boeings, I was just wondering if anyone knew for certain whether they would reassign the early flight with an A346, or if they would switch a 744 to the route? I guess I'm just wondering if Logan can really handle such a long aircraft as the new Airbus. I'm a fan of both manufacturers, and enjoy the variety, and would hate to lose the wonderful choice I currently have(jit works nicely, as I can Airbus-it to FRA, and Boeing-it back).

Does anyone know LH's plans for Boston service?
Regards! JDief
 
ILOVEA340
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RE: Lufthansa In Boston

Wed Jul 04, 2001 2:45 pm

none of the airlines getting the A346's have really stated what routes they will be used on so its just speculation.
 
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RE: Lufthansa In Boston

Wed Jul 04, 2001 3:23 pm

Just like "ILOVEA340" stated no routes has been decided yet. However I´m sure that Boston can handle the A340-600. It is 75 Meters long compared to the 747s 71 Meters. I don´t think that the 4 Meters will mean that much and I am sure that Boston has a few gates where there is room enough to manoeuvre the aircraft. Anyway I look forward to fly the bird once she is in service!
 
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RE: Lufthansa In Boston

Wed Jul 04, 2001 3:45 pm

The reason why I think you'll never see the B744 in BOS as long as the B742's around is because the state of Massachusettes (sp?) has a heavy tax on the newer B744's or something like that. That is why VS uses B742's and LH uses B742's. Correct me if I'm wrong!
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RE: Lufthansa In Boston

Wed Jul 04, 2001 11:51 pm

>The reason why I think you'll never see the B744 in BOS as long as the B742's around I once landed in Boston in LH 747-400 OK, this was not exactly an scheduled landing I was flying FRA-IAD and there was traffic congestion around New York, so we had to stop in BOS for refueling Smile Smile at the same time there was LH 742 at Logan
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RE: Lufthansa In Boston

Thu Jul 05, 2001 12:09 am


Oh well, I guess the decision which type of a/c is deployed on the North American routes is usually very short term and depending on seasonal demand as well as demand on a day-to-day basis.
So I´m pretty sure you´re going to see the 346 in BOS one way or the other (like D10, 742, AB3, 342, 343, you name it. I think LH even had the DC10 Combi at BOS back then). I don´t know about the 744 - I´d really be interested in whether what Marco just said is fact or a rumour!

Daniel Smile
 
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RE: Airsicknessbag

Thu Jul 05, 2001 12:17 am

I heard this from some other people and I'd like to know if it's true too. What makes it believable (for me anyway) is that BOS doesn't get any B744 service and the airlines that do fly a 747 there use the -200 variant.
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RE: Marco

Thu Jul 05, 2001 12:31 am

Hope you didn´t get me wrong, I didn´t want to say I don´t believe you, OK? I just have never heard anything like that. But I´m really curious...

Daniel Smile
 
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RE: Lufthansa In Boston

Thu Jul 05, 2001 12:45 am

BTW, just checked the database of this site - there are some pics of 744 taken at BOS (BA and LH), albeit very few. Hmmm, I guess I really start wondering...
Anyway, I have collected LH timetables since 1990, I should have a look at them whether they ever brought the 744 into BOS on a scheduled basis.

Daniel Smile
 
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RE: Lufthansa In Boston

Thu Jul 05, 2001 2:10 am

thanks airsicknessbag!
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RE: Lufthansa In Boston

Thu Jul 05, 2001 2:59 am

some people say LH´s a346s will replace the 742, however, i just read once again that LH intends to use the 742s until 2005. well, LH belongs to the few airlines which still hires flight engineers (the 742s are the only 3-man cockpits LH still has), so that could be a hint that the 742 will stay with LH for some more years. as airsicknessbag pointed, i´m pretty much sure you´ll see an a346 in BOS sooner or later. perhaps not regularly at the beginning, but you´ll never know...

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RE: Lufthansa In Boston

Thu Jul 05, 2001 7:31 am


Why is it that so many airlines use the classic 747's to BOS? I was thinking that it has something with short transatlantic flying times to Europe, low utilisation etc. What do you think? I flew BOS-SNN once in an EI 747-100 and the flight was 3:58! with strong tailwinds of course
 
jtdieffen
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RE: Lufthansa In Boston

Thu Jul 05, 2001 7:46 am

Thanks guys for the responses: they gave me some things to feed my curiosity.
As far as the taxation idea is concerned, I really don't have a clue. It seems like an unusual state reg, but as we all know New York taxis were required to carry a bale of hay for the horses until just a few years ago (I'm not kidding, though it was never enforced). It may be a massport regulation also, but again, no telling. The only thing that I can say that may disprove it would be that BA flies 744's in relatively often(for what I'm used to anyway). I intend to look into it with some friends of mine in the State offices. If I find anything out, I'll post it.

Thanks again, and Sers!
Regards! JDief
 
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RE: Lufthansa In Boston

Thu Jul 05, 2001 7:48 am

I once read that Lufthansa wanted to get rid of the A340-200s once the A340-600s come in. The oldest 747-200 was delivered in 1978 so let's give it a live of at least 25 years that would mean that we can see them until at least 2003 but the youngest 747-200s are from 1987 so that would mean 2012...
 
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RE: Lufthansa In Boston

Thu Jul 05, 2001 10:12 am

Terminal E - Logan's only international terminal, is bursting at the seams. 17 airlines are crammed into a small facility - one Massport's now updating. The terminal's also plagued with antiquated jetbridges that too frequently break down causing arrival delays.

As many as five years ago, several airlines, including AA, were trying to gain approval to add customs/immigration facilities at Logan's other terminals thus spreading the load of international flights, but I don't know what's happening with that these days.

As for the newer Airbus's and bigger 747's, perhaps the ramp areas around Terminal E are too congested to accomodate them. Wide open spaces are a rarity in Boston, and Logan's no exception. Perhaps when Terminal E is finally expanded, we'll begin to see some A-340-600's and 747-400's landing at BOS. Do ya think they'll design special gates to accomodate those new A-380's? Heh heh  Big grin

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