airplanetire
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Flights To Iraq

Fri Jul 06, 2001 12:51 am

I have been wondering about something. Are there scheduled flights to Iraq? If there are, what airline does them and with what aircraft? What destinations do they go to Iraq from? If there are no scheduled flights to Iraq, are there charters?

I have another question too. I know that relations between Iraq and the US are bad, so how would an American get into Iraq legally (not smuggling yourself in to the country; getting in with Iraqi authorities knowing and approving)? What other countries have really bad relations with Iraq and their citizens might have trouble getting into Iraq?

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RE: Flights To Iraq

Fri Jul 06, 2001 12:56 am

I believe that Royal Jordanian have scheduled flights to Baghdad. Air France were talking about it.

I have seen British Charter companies offering tours of Iraq via Jordan, so I guess they would undergo the same procedures as any Americans.

We have many Iraqis here in London and in general they are very friendly, and are simply unfortunate victims of a tryannical leader.
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RE: Flights To Iraq

Fri Jul 06, 2001 1:10 am

Believe it or not TWA has rigths to Bagdad. Now those rights belong to AA. But I think they flew there in the 60s and 70s but pulled out due to yields and profitability. They might have gon there on a 707 or an L-1011.
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RE: Flights To Iraq

Fri Jul 06, 2001 1:11 am

Jordan International operates charter flight between Amman and Mostar and Baghdad with a Boeing 707-320B.
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RE: Flights To Iraq

Fri Jul 06, 2001 1:21 am

Ryanb741-

Sorry if I sounded like I have something against Iraqis. I don't. It is the government of Iraq that the US has trouble with. One issue in the US is that the sanctions against Iraq may be hurting the citizens of Iraq. Anyway, because the US government has trouble with the Iraqi government, I didn't know if Americans would have trouble getting into Iraq. What procedures do they have to go through to get in?
 
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RE: Flights To Iraq

Fri Jul 06, 2001 1:34 am

Iraqi Airways flew 747-100s, 747SP, 707s, 727s, 737s, and some Antonov An-24s. They used to fly within the MiddleEast and as far as Tokyo, Bangkok, and Rio de Janiero. iraqi Airways was once a familiar sight at the major airports of Europe. However, the airline were all grounded by UN in 1991 with the breakout of Gulf War. Recently I have heard that Iraqi Airways have the rights to fly once more and is now flying within their region.

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RE: Flights To Iraq

Fri Jul 06, 2001 1:52 am

Please excuse me if I said 747-100, I meant to say that they operated 747-200.

Here's the pictures of thier fleet before thier flights were suspended by the UN sanctions.


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RE: Flights To Iraq

Fri Jul 06, 2001 2:59 am

Ryan, which companies offer these packages?
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RE: Flights To Iraq

Fri Jul 06, 2001 5:38 am

It's actually quite easy for an American to go to Iraq just like it is for an Iraqi to go to America. Just because the governments are at war that doesn't necessarily mean that the people are at war too.
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RE: Flights To Iraq

Fri Jul 06, 2001 6:59 am

The Iraqi Airways c/s was just beautiful, so sad not to see this wonderful airline in Airports around the world .

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RE: Flights To Iraq

Fri Jul 06, 2001 7:17 am

From the website of the US State Department
With the exception of the passports of American professional reporters or journalists on assignment in Iraq, and Americans residing in Iraq as of February 8, 1991, U.S. passports are not valid for travel to, in or through Iraq, unless they are validated by the Department of State.

You can get a lot of good information about traveling to foreign countries, as well as safety threats when you're there, by looking at the Travel Warnings and Consular Information Sheets available at http://travel.state.gov. For example, the current Iraqi information sheet informs us that it is not uncommon for the government of Iraq to use foreign visitors as a human shield against coalition enforcement of the no-fly zones.

 
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RE: Flights To Iraq

Fri Jul 06, 2001 9:42 am

What do you mean by human shields?
 
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RE: Flights To Iraq

Fri Jul 06, 2001 10:39 am

I'm not sure exactly what they mean, but I assume that they are saying that foreigners are put into areas that are likely to be attacked in enforcement of the no fly zone, to discourage the coalition governments from enforcement. The direct quote from the Iraq Travel Warning:
In light of Iraq's continuing challenges to the U.S./Coalition enforcement of the no-fly zones, and the potential for retaliatory action by the Government of Iraq against U.S. citizens, the U.S. government urges all U.S. citizens to avoid all travel to Iraq, and those already in Iraq are advised to depart as soon as possible. Iraq is engaged in a persistent pattern of challenges to the no-fly zones over northern and southern Iraq. These challenges include firing on the aircraft enforcing the no-fly zones, illuminating them with surface-to-air missile radar, and placing bounties on coalition aircrews. Coalition aircraft respond in self-defense to Iraqi threats by striking Iraq's air-defense system. Therefore, conditions throughout the country remain unsettled and dangerous. Foreigners present in Iraq have in the past been used as "human shields" by the regime during periods of confrontation with the international community.

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