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Why Didnt The 747X Have Any Success?

Fri Jul 06, 2001 2:51 pm

Why didnt any airlines get the 747X? It seems like a pretty nice plane to me. It carries more people, than the last 747 and it flys almost at the speed of sound! I was wondering why the airlines that have had the 747 for a long time like Singapore and Virgin Atlantic ordered the A380 instead of the 747X. What is wrong with the 747X?
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RE: Why Didnt The 747X Have Any Success?

Fri Jul 06, 2001 3:26 pm

This has the potential of becoming an AvB fight.

I think the economics of the A380 look pretty good. High density seating with great range means lower CSMs.

Oh, did I just use CSMs as a reference? ACK!
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RE: Why Didnt The 747X Have Any Success?

Fri Jul 06, 2001 3:38 pm

I don't think they really took it seriously enough...
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RE: Why Didnt The 747X Have Any Success?

Fri Jul 06, 2001 10:26 pm

I think the biggest issue that kind of conspired against the 747X series was the fact the plane did not offer any speed advantages over the current 747-400, nor did it offer a massive increase in seating space like the A380 offered.

However, it appears Boeing may be preparing to give new life to the 747. There is now talk of a 747 using the fuselage length of the 747X (not 747X Stretch), with slight area ruling of the fuselage, new wing with either raked wingtips or Aviation Partners winglets, and the choice of GP7200 or Trent 900 series engines. This will result in a 747 that carries 440 passengers cruising at circa Mach 0.90 with a range of nearly 9,000 nautical miles. A freighter variant off this new 747 could carry a full payload over 6,500 nautical miles, eliminating the Anchorage, AK (ANC) stopover for fuel on transpacific flights.

I think because of the very long range and very high cruise speed of the proposed 747 variant, once the economy picks up again expect a fairly large number of airlines to be quite interested in buying this new 747. This would essentially give most of the advantages of the Sonic Cruiser proposal, but would actually carry more passengers than the current 744 and can just about fly the LHR-SYD route non-stop. Another important advantage is the fact this proposed new 747 would require half the development cost of the A380, so Boeing could price the plane quite competitively.
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RE: Why Didnt The 747X Have Any Success?

Sat Jul 07, 2001 1:42 am

Remember in 1996/97, when Boeing were proposing -500/600/700 series 747's, then suddenly cancelled them? Maybe airlines were a bit wary this time around.
It must have disheartening for Boeing this time around when some of their best customers went for A380 instead of 747X.

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RE: Why Didnt The 747X Have Any Success?

Sat Jul 07, 2001 1:45 am

Yeah but still I would think that airlines would get the proven 747 instead of the new Airbus A380.
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