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Lauda 777 For Sale

Wed Jul 11, 2001 5:30 pm

Lauda Air is trying to sell a 777 still on order via Boeings website. The aircraft´s delivery date is Feb 2002.
 
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RE: Lauda 777 For Sale

Wed Jul 11, 2001 5:32 pm

Why? That would be the first 777 to be sold by an owner/purchaser.

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RE: Lauda 777 For Sale

Wed Jul 11, 2001 5:35 pm

I have heard that Air Europe of Italy is also replacing their two 777s with A330s soon (source: Airline fleets news).
 
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RE: Lauda 777 For Sale

Wed Jul 11, 2001 10:01 pm

I`ve heard that Air Europe were looking really hard at the 764 as a replacement... They already operate the 763, so why not?
I read that in Airlinerworld


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RE: Lauda 777 For Sale

Wed Jul 11, 2001 10:12 pm

Now that AUA is the boss over Lauda it is very possible that Lauda will also go all Airbus. Then they wouldn't only sell their 777s but also the 737s...
 
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RE: Lauda 777 For Sale

Wed Jul 11, 2001 10:49 pm

Na/Raggi-
I'd heard that Air Europe and Volare were to merge, resulting in the B777s being sold and replaced by A332s-know if there's any truth in that?

Godbless-
Do you really think that lauda will change it's entire fleet? I know it would mean parts/crew etc could be swapped with Austrian, but it does seem abit far to replace every single plane in the fleet?!
 
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RE: Lauda 777 For Sale

Wed Jul 11, 2001 11:10 pm

I don´t think that has to do with fleet comunality.
It´s just the case that the fleet expansion of laudaair was far to aggressive.
The financial situation of laudaair in the last years was very poor to say the least, and it seems that it won´t get better this year. They have massive losts in the first moths of that year, and it looks really bad.
The 777 are extremely expensive, the laudaair contracts with boeing seem to be not really cost effective. The NG777 are the most expensive 777-200IGW´s on the market, due to "taylor-made" modification and outfitting (galleys etc.) and due to the very small ammount of aircraft ordered (2).

The unique "sale_and_lease_back-and-buy_back_and_sale_and_leasback" operations by the former CEO made the 767 fleet also a very expensive one. They have now the situation to have a very expensive to operate fleet, and dramatic losts.
Unfortunately Laudaair can´t cut personal costs, because Laudaair personal is avtually among the cheapest in europe. The will have to increase the income of their pilots, flight attendants etc., and they will have to decrease their workload. All that raises costs, and that in time of severe financial troubles.
The only chance they have is to get rid of unused, too expensive aircraft. But it will be very difficult to find a cutomer for their B777´s. Because their price is enormouse, and other airlines will get cheaper TripleSevens directly new from Boeing.
The new Management tries everything to avoid the delivery of the new additonal B777 to them, because in their actual situation a 1.7 billion austrian schilling aircraft (that they don´t need) is the last thing they want to pay for.
1.7billion ATS for a new B777 would raise their losts to a catastrophic level.
 
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RE: Lauda 777 For Sale

Thu Jul 12, 2001 4:30 pm

It would be very pity if Lauda Air has got to sold it´s wonderful flagship. I hope the 777´s will remain in service...

 
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Website Address?

Thu Jul 12, 2001 6:30 pm

I would really like to know what's the exact website address for the pae regarding Boeing's airplane for sale from commercial airlines. (not www.boeing.com, something like www.boeing.com/*&*$**/)

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RE: Lauda 777 For Sale

Thu Jul 12, 2001 6:52 pm

OdiE
http://www.boeing.com/assocproducts/airtrade/
and for the 777 click on 777 on the right hand side thean scrool down and click on accept and you'll come to this site
http://www.boeing.com/assocproducts/airtrade/reports/777.html
The call the number stated there and meka a good price  Smile
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Zauberfloete

Thu Jul 12, 2001 9:05 pm

The NG777 are the most expensive 777-200IGW´s on the market, due to "taylor-made" modification and outfitting (galleys etc.)

What are these modifications, out of interest?
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RE: Lauda 777 For Sale

Thu Jul 12, 2001 9:40 pm

To Englandair:
Air Europe and Volare have already merged, with Air Europe bought by Volare Group Spa. That makes sense Air Europe intention to sell B777 for A332, since Volare Group has a strong A320 series fleet (17 aircraft). I only hope they keep both color schemes, I like them so much!

To the general topic:
and what about Lauda Air Italy?? Is not more part of Lauda Air AG??

Rgds

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