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Sad News: Another 707 Written-off

Thu Jul 12, 2001 11:33 pm

Air Memphis´ 707 passenger/Combi, registered SU-BMV was written off recently in a landing accident at Monrovia returning Hadj-pilgrims.
I don´t know if this has been mentioned before but I´ve never heard about it so far.
 
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RE: Sad News: Another 707 Written-off

Fri Jul 13, 2001 12:49 am

On www.jacdec.de this is listed as a POTENTIAL
writeoff.
 
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RE: Sad News: Another 707 Written-off

Fri Jul 13, 2001 2:11 am

WIth 707s, any repair costing more than US$100k = total constructive loss (write-off)
 
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RE: Sad News: Another 707 Written-off

Mon Jul 16, 2001 10:28 pm

It wasn´t Air Memphis but Luxor Air. As lately as last year, this very plane flew German tourists through Egypt on a regular basis - a friend of mine was on such a flight only one year ago.

Are you sure it´s Combi? I have a safety card which clearly shows it is (or was at that time) all pax.

Q: Which was the last year in which no 707 was written off? (Scroll down for answer)
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Daniel Smile
 
duke
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RE: Sad News: Another 707 Written-off

Thu Jul 19, 2001 2:07 am

The aircraft is being considered an insurance writeoff
according to recent reporting.
 
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RE: Sad News: Another 707 Written-off

Thu Jul 19, 2001 4:29 am

To the poster who felt sad, cheer up buddy, every plane has its life and after which, they are just recycled.
B707 had a big life span and I think due to some problems with it and its age, it should be retired. By problems, I mean nowadays, planes are much more safer and comfortable. I don't think it is a wise idea to keep such aircraft operating anymore. I mean every aircraft built before 1985 should be written off. After all, it is a question about safety.
 
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RE: Sad News: Another 707 Written-off

Thu Jul 19, 2001 4:42 am

$100,000 for a write off?

wow! I saw a 707 for sale a couple of months ago for £2,000,000. Does that mean if i'd bought it i would have been ripped off?

Its saddening news if it has been written off, not too many of those old birds flying around.

Cheers

Dan
 
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RE: Sad News: Another 707 Written-off

Thu Jul 19, 2001 4:46 am

To the poster who felt sad, cheer up buddy, every plane has its life and after which, they are just recycled.
B707 had a big life span and I think due to some problems with it and its age, it should be retired. By problems, I mean nowadays, planes are much more safer and comfortable. I don't think it is a wise idea to keep such aircraft operating anymore. I mean every aircraft built before 1985 should be written off. After all, it is a question about safety.
 
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RE: Sad News: Another 707 Written-off

Thu Jul 19, 2001 9:44 am

Ariana727...you must be kidding right? Thats only 16 yrs old. Many aircraft have lots of years left in them at age 16. As a matter of fact the decpreciation and amortization schedules for most aircraft are 18-22 years long. Many leases are for 20 yrs. If the worlds airlines and cargo lines had to keep replacing planes on your schedule, they would only need about half of what they have because very few of us could afford to fly or ship cargo.

Its in the maint. of aircraft..well maintained ones from the mid-60's are still flying(DC-8-70's).
 
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RE: Airsicknessbag

Thu Jul 19, 2001 2:05 pm

Since 1960:

1) AF F-BHSH blown up AJC 9.7.76 by bomb.
2) AF F-BHST near PTP
3) AF F-BHSZ near CCS
4) AF F-BLCJ near PTP
5) AF F-BHSM dbr ORY 6.3.62 on takeoff
6) Biman S2-ABQ 4.3.80 SIN
7) PA N798PA CCU 6.13.68
8) PA N407PA FCO 12.17.73
9) PA N446PA Bali 4.22.74
10) PA N494PA CCS 12.12.68
11) PA N799PA 12.26.68 EDF
12) PA N454PA PPG 1.30.74
13) PA N461PA MNL 7.25.71
14) PA N458PA BOS 11.3.73
15) PA N709PA Elkton, IN 12.8.63
16) PA N417PA PPT 7.22.73
17) LH D-ABOT DEL 12.19.73
18) LH D-ABOK Ebersheim 12.4.61
19) TAMPA HK-2401X MED 12.15.83
20) AA N7502A Montauk NY 1.28.61
21) AI VT-GJJ BOM 6.22.82
22) Trans Arabian ST-ALK Khartoum 7.14.90
23) ALIA JY-ADO KAN 1.22.73
24) Hispanola HI-384HA MIA 12.12.81
25) MS SU-AXA BKK 12.25.76
26) AV HK-723 MEX 8.16.76
27) AV HK-725 UIO 1.27.80
28) Katale 9Q-CVG Goma 3.1.90

Anyway you get the point, I will not list the other 137 or so wo since 1960.

Just wanted to add to you comprehensive list.

BTW, yes I can provide dates, airlines, registrations, msn, LN and cause.

Steve  Smile
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RE: Eggd

Thu Jul 19, 2001 3:30 pm

EGGD- Just out of curiosity, how much is that in USD? I've always wanted a plane of my own..  Nuts

Chris
Lets do some sexy math. We add you, subtract your clothes, divide your legs and multiply
 
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RE: Sad News: Another 707 Written-off

Thu Jul 19, 2001 6:28 pm

With my nickname you probably guessed I'm also opposing Ariana727adv's point. SU-BMV was a former MEA bird, which flew it till 1998 as the best maintained passenger 707s around. After 1998, SU-BMV was one of only a handful passenger 707s left to fly, and it was my (among some other Airliners.net members) wish to fly it once, especially because it was originally ordered by MEA and unlike their ex American 707s (which I flew) probably still fitted with a 1960s interior with open overhead racks.
Most of the 1980s and 1990s write offs of 707s are not because of the unsafety of an old design, but because of either bad procedures of small sketchy airlines (which happen to fkly the 707 much because of low purchase costs) or after minor damages which aren't worth repairing because the age and economics of the aircraft. MEA 707/720 operations (till 1998) were as safe as any modern western fleet.
nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
 
duke
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RE: Sad News: Another 707 Written-off

Fri Jul 20, 2001 1:51 am

What about that 707 that crashed and could maybe be repaired but had
already had about 30 things which were due for repairs, and was written off?
Or the 1998 one whose engine fell into the Belgian woods? Was that a quality
airframr? Some old planes seem O.K. but I find the number of 707s still flying shocking, correct me if I am wrong.
 
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RE: Sad News: Another 707 Written-off

Fri Jul 20, 2001 1:54 am

Although I love the 707, I think its time to pull the rest out of the sky.

Rgds,
Early Air

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