am777
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Mexicana Plans To Launch Flights To Europe

Tue Jul 17, 2001 5:54 am

I’ve have just read in a Mexican newspaper “Reforma”, that Mexicana’s C.E.O. announced to launch new flights to Europe, basically Frankfurt, with a stop at Cuba, and also direct (I assume that non- stop flights) to EZE, sounds a little strange a one stop flight to Frankfurt, and if they plan to launch both routes I believe that they must lease a widebody plane maybe a 767 for such purposes, because with a 757 it’s impossible to make the MEX-EZE non-stop. An other plan is to retire all current 727’s on it’s fleet, replacing them with A-319, & A-320 by the end of year 2002.
 
chepos
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RE: Mexicana Plans To Launch Flights To Europe

Tue Jul 17, 2001 7:09 am

Great finally Mexicana is expanding its Horizons into Europe, EZE is already served from CUN so that really isn't a new destination and with a 757.
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RE: Mexicana Plans To Launch Flights To Europe

Tue Jul 17, 2001 7:15 am

These new flights are most likely code share flights with their Star Alliance partner Lufthansa. In fact, I'd guarantee it.

MX is in no position to be launching new services, much less new services to somewhere as far aloft as Europe.

I couldn't find anything at http://www.reforma.com.mx
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chepos
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RE: Mexicana Plans To Launch Flights To Europe

Tue Jul 17, 2001 7:27 am

Oh ok. But Lufthansa already flies to MEX and they already codeshare on that route.
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am777
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RE: Mexicana Plans To Launch Flights To Europe

Tue Jul 17, 2001 8:13 am

Chepos: I know they currently fly to EZE 5 times a week, via CUN but it will be non-stop, so they will need a larger aircraft, I think is impossible to fly that route in a 757.

Planenutz: Have you checked yesterday's newspaper?, this article is located in the " viajes " section page 2 is in the hard copy I don't know if it's in their homepage, btw Mexicana currently codeshares on flight from Mexico to Frankfurt, the weired thing is that they plan to start their own service with a stop over at Cuba I guess ( Havana ).
 
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RE: Mexicana Plans To Launch Flights To Europe

Tue Jul 17, 2001 8:39 am

What AM777 is saying is true. Fernando Flores said that in Tampico, Mexico during the celebration of Mexicanas 80 aniversary. For those of you who speak spanish the following was on the sunday Reforma newspaper:


TAMPICO.- Mexicana de Aviación anunció planes para abrir nuevas rutas hacia Europa y Sudamérica, informó su director Fernando Flores. El jueves 12 de este mes se llevó a cabo el festejo por el aniversario de la compañía, que se realizó en la ciudad de Tampico en memoria del primer vuelo, hace ya ocho décadas.
Flores reveló en entrevista que los nuevos destinos serían Frankfurt vía Cuba y Buenos Aires en vuelo directo, ya que es difícil establecer una ruta directa a Europa cuando Aeroméxico cubre París y Madrid con muy buen servicio, además de que no se cuenta con el equipo necesario para un vuelo sin escalas.
A finales del 2002, Mexicana terminará de cambiar sus 20 aviones B-727, de unos 20 años de antigüedad, por los modernos Airbus 319 y 320.
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About the new Airbus fleet, they have been in talks with Airbus to get a good deal. Lets remember that Mexicana in 1989 made an order for 20 Airbus aircraft and only 12 were delivered, so they still have 8 that can be delivered throug a sell and lease system.

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RE: Mexicana Plans To Launch Flights To Europe

Tue Jul 17, 2001 11:47 pm

although it seems strange that MX would route its european flights, primarily FRA, via Cuba (most probably HAV, i assume) that could still make sense somehow. HAV belongs to the cities LH is taking a close look at to implement future services to. by codesharing on such a route operated by MX Lufthansa is able to provide its pax direct access to Cuba.

what about the aircraft for such a flight? possibly some 767, but what about a330-200? they´ve got so many a320s in their fleet.....

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AM744
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RE: Mexicana Plans To Launch Flights To Europe

Wed Jul 18, 2001 5:10 am

Great news. I've heard FRA is a slot-troubled airport. Has MX tackled that issue? Will they have 5th freedom FRA-HAV? When will the new service start?
 
am777
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RE: Mexicana Plans To Launch Flights To Europe

Wed Jul 18, 2001 6:30 am

Also you can read this information at www.justplanes.com, but any date for the new flight, and I believe they must have 5th freedom rights for the HAV-FRA sectors
 
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RE: Mexicana Plans To Launch Flights To Europe

Wed Jul 18, 2001 7:09 am

Little rusty in the Mexico airline field, but here goes...

Doesn't Aeromexico serve Europe with their DC-10s? Or am I living in the past?

Just curious...DIA
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MAH4546
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RE: Mexicana Plans To Launch Flights To Europe

Wed Jul 18, 2001 7:32 am

AeroMexico no longer has DC-10s. They used to fly the MEX-MIA-MAD-ORY route, among others.
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DIA
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RE: Mexicana Plans To Launch Flights To Europe

Wed Jul 18, 2001 7:41 am

Thanks for the update MAH4546.

I just can't seem to keep up with all that I want too in the world of aviation.
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LatinPlane
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RE: Mexicana Plans To Launch Flights To Europe

Wed Jul 18, 2001 12:17 pm

I don't know whether I should believe this one or not. This might be the next "AeroMexico will acquire 747-300 for the new MEX-ROM route". We all got so fooled with that one!

Well, logically speaking, I've always believed that a Mexican airline should expand into Europe via Cuba. If they can get 5th freedom rights on the routes they can't go wrong. The thing is that they need to build the market until they can go about it nonstop so they can get those big bucks business travelers that fly between Germany and Mexico.

The thing that doesn't make sense is that Mexicana does not have the equipment to start such services. I wonder what aircraft they intend on flying. These might just be "official corporate rumours".

By the way, I have been dying to know this but Mexicana announced not too long ago that they were going to start a direct once a week GDL-HAV route and also start flying to Santiago de Cuba from Mexico City. Was this true or where they just lies? In the mean time I found out that AeroCaribe stopped flying to Varadero, Cuba.

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AM744
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RE: Mexicana Plans To Launch Flights To Europe

Wed Jul 18, 2001 1:27 pm

DIA
Aeromexico flies 8x weekly nonstop to Madrid and a daily nonstop to Paris(CDG) both with 762.
Back to the thread, I am also suspicious about this news. Wasn't Aeromexico interested in flying to Frankfurt again? Anyway, I'd love to see another mexican airline flying over the Atlantic.
 
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RE: Mexicana Plans To Launch Flights To Europe

Wed Jul 18, 2001 1:43 pm

It will be great if MX starts flying to Europe, but I´m not sure about it. A friend of mine that has been working at MX for about 20 years and told me that when she begin working there, MX staff told her that they were going to open a MEX-LHR route by 1982-83.
STILL WAITING !!!!

Back in 1991 the rumors started again

MX must open the route, because they have to get more international, for decades MX has only focus on the LAX, SFO, ORD, SAT, MIA markets, not considering there are huge opportunities in Europe.

By the way the service might be operated in a
767-200/300 or 330-300 leased from someone, maybe SN.

Also AM was going to lease a 743 for the Jubileum charter flights

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