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How Long Will The Cool Stuff Last On An A380?

Wed Jul 18, 2001 12:51 pm

Jusdt wondering, even if it may be 5 years til it comes out, that does look cool with the lounges and spas, etc. Obvoiusly this isn't very economical so how long will this probably last? Figure if I ever go internationally, I'll try to get on a loaded A380 before they become normal again!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: How Long Will The Cool Stuff Last On An A380?

Wed Jul 18, 2001 12:55 pm

Probably as long as the lounge idea lasted on the 747 upper deck when it first came out.
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RE: How Long Will The Cool Stuff Last On An A380?

Wed Jul 18, 2001 12:56 pm

Sadly, by the time the A380 comes out, there will be such a demand for super large aircraft that you will never see the lounges, shopping spas, etc. The 747/D10/L10 hit the market a few years early and so had lounges for a few years. The A380 is going to come on line when demand matches capacity.

Just my opinion though, depends on the economy 5-6 years from now.

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RE: How Long Will The Cool Stuff Last On An A380?

Wed Jul 18, 2001 1:12 pm

What Airbus is trying to do is show airlines how much room there actually is on board...which is a very large amount. You gotta figure the A380 is actually a bit wider than the 747, so if you take a chunk of cabin and put in a sofa here, a coffee table there, a bar over there. . .while utilizing "empty" space, it is going to look like a mansion, which in return impresses and excites potential owners and pax alike. . .and airlines want pax to be impressed with their equipment!

So, yes, it is marketing 101. Same as when Boeing "wowed" everybody with the 747. The only thing is, this is not the 1970's.

What I'm trying to say is that I think that with the loads of pax now, plus with airlines like Singapore, Virgin...and similar; there are absolutly going to be areas on the A380 that are used for pax entertainment or comfort other than just more seats.

There are way to many people flying Business and First Class now-a-days for an airline like Virgin not to offer an absolutly perfect service to win over their business. Virgin has a loyal following, especially in their upper-classes. It is because of Virgin's way of business. . .go above and beyond what is normally expected from an airline, and then you will absolutley have return business. That is precisely how Virgin grew into the worldy airline they now are.

Yes Airic, there is a Santa Claus, and he's on his way in the form of a big 'ole jolly A380!

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RE: How Long Will The Cool Stuff Last On An A380?

Wed Jul 18, 2001 11:18 pm

Of course, there will be more A380s without these luxurys than those with.

And I wouldn't doubt that ANA or JAL will have high-capacity domestic versions as well.
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RE: How Long Will The Cool Stuff Last On An A380?

Wed Jul 18, 2001 11:53 pm

One need only remember how long the lounges on American's DC-10s and 747s lasted...the piano bars, etc. They gave way to more seats. However, the question is how economical the A380 will be to operate, and what its break-even load factor will be. The higher that is, the less likely it is you'll see health spas et al.
 
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RE: How Long Will The Cool Stuff Last On An A380?

Thu Jul 19, 2001 12:04 am

Till rollout.
 
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RE: How Long Will The Cool Stuff Last On An A380?

Thu Jul 19, 2001 12:07 am

I think that there will be some of theses lounges on board the A380. There's an increasingly high demand from high yeld Y/C pax for comfort improvement. That's why the bizz jet market is in such good health for the moment. Give private cabins to passenger on long hauls scheduled flights and you will see many new pax coming from the bizz jet market. The pool and spa? Maybe on an A380 for the Sultan of Brunei....so it's maybe not a bad idea from Airbus to make an ad with it.
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RE: How Long Will The Cool Stuff Last On An A380?

Thu Jul 19, 2001 2:45 am

With DVT so much in the news, merely using the A380's space for more room in even ecomony could be a major selling point.
 
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RE: How Long Will The Cool Stuff Last On An A380?

Thu Jul 19, 2001 5:01 am

...they will last as long as they did on the 747 when it began service. As soon as the economy takes a downturn, they will remove the lounges and add seats.
 
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RE: How Long Will The Cool Stuff Last On An A380?

Thu Jul 19, 2001 5:21 am

The real question: will it start? My opinion? NO! Airlines already know what they're doing to the A380. Airbus is using the plane's size and luxury to attract customers. I guess they can claim spas and whatever because hypothetically, it could happen. I hope people are smart enough to realize that gyms and shops won't appear on an airplane.
 
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RE: How Long Will The Cool Stuff Last On An A380?

Thu Jul 19, 2001 5:22 am

They will never be fitted to most aircraft. Maybe a few that are operated as VIP jets (larger than a BBJ!) or in all-firstclass, but most will be on highvolume domestic and holiday charters (even cheaper for Virgin to fly British youngsters to the Costas for 2 weeks of unsupervised booze and sex), and those will be crammed full of the seats you now get in a DC9 or 737-300...
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