Mancester does not have an unlimited capacity-what happens if mancester became as big as heathrow(as if)-but say it did-are you saying the residents of mancester would like an airport even bigger than heathrow-what about 'the environmental implications'.
if mancester was the size of heathrow right now and it was mancester wanting to extend, do you really see it not falling into the same problems as heathrow?-of course not.
Well, perhaps we didn't go through a long planning enquiry for the 2nd runway that spent a lot of time examining the environmental mitigation that MAN said would take place.
What we should have done, obviously, is gone for true parallel runways meeting the ICAO regulations and taken up a lot more greenbelt land; this would have meant that we would not have backtracking on the 2nd runway and would probably have eased the burden on ATC trying to get up to 5 aircraft crossing the active at the same time.
Perhaps you can inform us of what the limitations on capacity at MAN is? It appears that you cannot understand that current runway capacity is 58 movements per hour with the aim in the medium to long term of raising it to 72 movements an hour. Current terminal capacity in 23.5 million with T2 and T3 only built to half the expected capacity. So it appears that we have ample opportunity to get to the forecast figures.
Where did you get the notion that I want or expect MAN to be bigger then LHR? Better still, please inform us of why you are making this fanciful comparison. I have been consistent in stating that it is LGW we will be ahead of.
as for the games in mancester-you might like to have noted the bbc news reports-you must have seen them since you love mancester so much.
they state that outside the city nobody knows about the games and that the council and the organisations havent doen enough advertising.
so enjoy your second rate games(didnt see mancester get the olympics it bidded for, twice) because no-one else will be watching in the world because nobody knows anything about it, including tv companies.
a half empty staduim for a city trying to be cosmopolitian with an airport that thinks it a major global hub-says it all really.
These second rate games encompass some 72 countries. I'm sorry India, Pakistan, Australia, South Africa, Canada, etc. that someone has taken delight in placing you as 2nd class citizens. That is the implication of your statement.
So no TV companies know about it? Well don't bother looking at the BBC next year between July 25 and August 4 as there will be blank screens. If I were you, I would try to get a refund of the TV licence fee
The big launch for the Games was always scheduled to be from 1 year away; yes there have been problems along the way, not the least of which is the strange accounting procedures that appear to have taken place! However, perhaps we can now concentrate the media on actually not continually putting Manchester and the Games in particular, down. Remember how everyone wrote off Sydney one year before the Olympics
There will be no "half empty stadium". It will be full. In fact, thanks to the Wembley fiasco it's only half the size it should have been. But that's London for you - put in a pipedream bid for the national stadium, play on "the venue of legends" and proclaim people like their day out in London for the big sporting occasions. Let's ignore the convenience for the country of Birmingham (or Manchester). We should all choke up the motorways to get to London instead. Very environmentally friendly
All our stadia will be used afterwards....can we say the same for any stadia built for London?
As for the Olympic bids, what did we get out of it? A raised profile and several new venues. Yes, a complete and utter waste of time
The biggest handicap was the total lack of support from London. It has been, and always will be, the case that London thinks it knows best for Britain. I'm sorry - we're now in the 21st Century and fiefdom has long since disappeared.
My biggest word of warning is that if London wants to have the Olympics then our Games will have to be successful. I don't know whether I want our Games to be a success...
Lastly, take a look at the following and tell me that all this lot counts for nothing as we should all have to traipse to LHR or LGW to start our business trip or vacation:
As well as having a population of over 400,000, 60 per cent of the population of Britain, more than 33 million people, live within a two hour drive of Manchester. The wider area of Greater Manchester has a population of 2.5 million and comprises the cities of Manchester and Salford and the Metropolitan Boroughs of Bolton, Bury, Oldham, Rochdale, Stockport, Tameside, Trafford and Wigan.
Manchester is a focus for businesses which serve local, regional and international markets. Twenty-seven countries have consular or trade offices in the City.
The City is a major manufacturing base which employs nearly 300,000 people in the Manchester area and almost 700,000 people in the wider region. Some £14 billion annually is invested in plant, machinery and buildings.
Manchester is one of the largest financial centres in Europe with more than 15,000 people employed in banking and finance and more than 60 banking institutions.
Manchester is a major business services centre. More than 45,000 people are employed in legal, accounting, management consultancy and other professional and technical services. Manchester has the largest UK office market outside London and the region has the highest number of publicly listed companies outside London.
Manchester is an international destination for conferences and exhibitions with more than 200,000 bed spaces within one hour's drive of the city centre.
Manchester lies within a region surrounded by areas of national beauty including the Lake District, the Peak District and the Cheshire Plains. Tourism is a major economic sector with 3.59 million visitors spending a total of £463 million during 1997.
It is a major centre for broadcasting, home to BBC North West and Granada Television as well as five radio stations. Eight national daily and five national Sunday newspapers have their offices in Manchester.