petertenthije
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Fokker Jet Production To Restart?

Sat Jul 28, 2001 8:25 pm

Yesterday I posted this message on an older thread. Because it is interesting and I am afraid not everyone reads these oldies, I post this message again. It deals around a possible restart of the Fokker (jet) production under the name Rekkof. I translated this newspaper text from the Dutch newspaper "Metro". I don't know the date, other than that W Bush had only just been elected. Still this article is interesting, because according to it, the decission to produce the Fokkers will be made shortly.


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"COMPANY DOCTOR" JOEP VAN DEN NIEUWENHUIZEN HASN'T GIVEN FOKKER UP YET. 5 YEARS AFTER THE DEMISE OF FOKKER THE INDUSTRIAL WANTS TO PRODUCE F70'S AND F100'S IN CHINA.

Van den Nieuwenhuizen is in negotiations with two possible partners: an Chinese airplane manufacturer and Hutchinson Whampoa of Hong Kong. Although the three (no type-error) are according to Van den Nieuwenhuizen "highly commited", the realisation of his plans depend on further investigation. By June next year this investigation should be completed. After that the decission will be made.
The demand for small planes has increased enourmesly the last few years, according to Van den Nieuwenhuizen. "A Fokker 70 should be offered below 20 miljon Dollar" (to be competitive), says Van den Nieuwenhuizen. It isn't the first tines that attempts are made to restart Fokker-production. Van den Nieuwenhuizen tried as early as 1996. It then failed because of rejections from suppliers (mainly the wing producer; Shorts).
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According to later reports there are (were?) two Chinese companies involved. One of them being AVIC. Perhaps that's also the reason the paper said "Although the THREE are...".
An other article also said that there might even be a bank willing to back Rekkof up. Though this was highly uncertain.

So the question is now, has this research been completed, and has a decision been made, or will it be made soon. If anyone knows, I (and I believe many others) would love to hear it.
Perhaps there are any Hutchinson Whampoa employees here that can inform us, or employees of the Chinese companies involved?


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Flying-Tiger
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RE: Fokker Jet Production To Restart?

Sat Jul 28, 2001 8:38 pm

Unlikely that they will ever restart. Even if they do so the F70 and F100 are basically outdated with the ERJ-170/190 and 728JET/928JET being in production now.
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RE: Fokker Jet Production To Restart?

Sat Jul 28, 2001 9:00 pm

Flying-Tiger is right, maybe if they restarted the Fokker 130 (powered by RR/BMW engines), which never made it past design stage, they might stand a chance.
Shame about Fokker, I had the pleasure of flying on a Malev Fokker 70 last Sunday.
 
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RE: Fokker Jet Production To Restart?

Sat Jul 28, 2001 9:16 pm

The F70 is not so outdated and may still find customers, if you update the F70 and F100 (newer engines, modifcations etc.) they also will be competitive.

However I seriously doubt Fokker ever to start-up again. In 1999 there was the same news during the Aerosalon where the announcement was made the Fokker aircraft wouldn't be produced again. Also the stories about a company which wanted to produce the F60 (stretch of the F50) in Groningen ended up in nothing.
 
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RE: Fokker Jet Production To Restart?

Sat Jul 28, 2001 10:16 pm

Are there any pictures on the net about the F60 or F130?
 
petertenthije
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RE: Fokker Jet Production To Restart?

Sat Jul 28, 2001 11:27 pm

There are some of the F60. It had already been produced before Fokker went broke. All 4 off these have gone to the Dutch Air Force. I have found some pictures on this site. The numbers are:

141812 108566 53446 25947 11434

I haven't seen a picture off the F130 on the net though. I have seen it in one or two (Dutch) books though. Unfortunately I have no scanner, so I can't put it on the net myself. Perhaps another (Dutch) spotter can.

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petertenthije
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RE: Fokker Jet Production To Restart?

Sat Jul 28, 2001 11:46 pm

I've found one page with some information on the F50/60. It has general info, photo's, fleetlists the hole lot. I hope this link will work:

http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/Fokker/f50.htm



I have also found the site of the company that wants to produce the F50/60 (Forward aircraft). The url is:

http://www.forwardaircraft.com/homepage.htm



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RE: Fokker Jet Production To Restart?

Sat Jul 28, 2001 11:52 pm


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