hoons90
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Emergency Landings, Has Anyone Experienced One?

Thu Aug 02, 2001 1:41 am

Is there anyone that had emergency landings before?
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747buff
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RE: Emergency Landings, Has Anyone Experienced One?

Thu Aug 02, 2001 1:43 am

Sort of. When I was on a flight from Tokyo to Bangkok, we landed in Hong Kong to offload a guy who had a heart attack.
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longhaul747
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RE: Emergency Landings, Has Anyone Experienced One?

Thu Aug 02, 2001 2:04 am

Hello,

Back in April of 1999 I was flying on a HAL DC-10-10 from Seattle to Honolulu. When we took off I never heard the gear go up. After a minute or so the pilot came on and said that we had a hydrolic failure and that our gear did not retract. We can't cross the Pacific this way so we must dump fuel over the ocean and return to Seattle. You will see fuel coming out of the wingtips so don't be alarmed. Shortly after that we started dumping fuel over the Olympic Mountains and the Hood Canal area. The process took about 15 minutes. When we came in we used full flaps (rare for a DC-10) and landed short on 34R. When we touched down the spoilers never came up and we never used reverse thrust. We just used the brakes. Kind of interesting because the thrust reversers on the DC-10 are electric not hydrolic. As we landed you could see the fire trucks out there and they started to chase us as we went down the runway. We finely turned off at the end of the runway. They were concerned about hot brakes so we were towed to the gate being escorted by fire trucks. The plane was fixed in about 3 hours but the flight crew had expired. A fresh crew had to be flown in from Honolulu at we finely departed at 12:30am the next day. A 13 hour delay and the worst part is they never actually told us it would be a 13 hour delay so we were stuck at the airport all this time. Had I known we would have went back home for a while. It took a few months but we got free travel vouchers on Hawaiian and we used them a year later. Not a bad deal really.

Chris
 
rw774477
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RE: Emergency Landings, Has Anyone Experienced One?

Thu Aug 02, 2001 2:16 am

I'm just surprised a participant here complains about being stuck at the airport. I love delays as they give me more spotting time  Smile

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longhaul747
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RE: Emergency Landings, Has Anyone Experienced One?

Thu Aug 02, 2001 2:25 am



>> I'm just surprised a participant here complains about being stuck at the airport <<

For the first few hours is was not that bad. I was able to tour the airport but I always had to check back and see what the status of my flight was. Another big problem is the HAL field manager went home for the day after our plane pushed back. We had nobody feeding us information for the first 4 hours. We did have a few NWA workers help us at first but they had no real information to give us. I should also mention that we got up at 4 am that morning so everyone was very tired. I like airports but not this particular situation. It got a little boring after a while. SeaTac is not the most exciting airport around.

Interestingly that day I saw the fire trucks go out 3 other times that day. Emergency landings must be farely common.

Chris


 
Ndebele
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RE: Emergency Landings, Has Anyone Experienced One?

Thu Aug 02, 2001 2:49 am

In 1990, I flew FRA-MSP on a Northwest B747-100. About 20 minutes after take-off, engine #4 broke down, so we returned to FRA. Same procedure as in Longhaul747's story, many fire trucks and no reverse thrust.
Well, what am I supposed to say? It was not *that* spectacoolar, how many engines break down every year? But still, when you sit in an aircraft that just lost one of its engines, it's a really strange feeling.

To complete the story: In FRA, there is a very stylish maintenance (Lufthansa Technik), but NW has got P&W engines, while LH uses GE. So there were no spare parts available, and we had to wait 12 hours for the spares and another 12 hours for the engine to be repaired.
 
rooinc
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RE: Emergency Landings, Has Anyone Experienced One?

Thu Aug 02, 2001 3:20 am

About three years ago, I was flying from LAX to ORD. As we got pretty close to the airport, we began to circle. We did that for about 40 minutes. The captain came on the pa and said that the flaps weren't working and that we would be landing on the longest runway they had, but not to worry. We would see emergency vehicles but they would be there just as a precaution.

It was interesting to see the various reactions of everyone on the plane. It didn't seem to me that just the flaps malfunctioning would be a huge problem, but the mood enveloping the cabin got me a little nervous.

Of course, we landed and were able to stop without a problem, but it was a sight seeing all the emergency equipment as we whizzed by!

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wannabe
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RE: Emergency Landings, Has Anyone Experienced One?

Thu Aug 02, 2001 3:24 am

I was on an AA F100 that had a problem with flaps as they set up for approach. We wound up doing a no flaps landing at SWF (which was our destination). A 12000 foot runway along with a 20kt headwind made the landing easier for the crew. I will say, however, the speed that we ran the approach at was exciting.
 
searpqx
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RE: Emergency Landings, Has Anyone Experienced One?

Thu Aug 02, 2001 3:59 am

I've been in two, and I'll second Ndebele, not that much to see (thankfully). First was a NW DC-10, summer of 1981 SEA-LAX. During the takeoff roll, an AirCal 737 started to cross our runway. Our captain slammed on the brakes (and everything else) and we stopped no problems. We sat for awhile to allow the brakes to cool, then took off and flew gear down for 45-50 minutes. On arrival in LAX we were greated by the fire trucks on on touchdown, which paced us down the runway. We were towed off the runway and deplaned. Nothing seemed wrong with the landing but my father said on touchdown there was a fair amount of smoke behind us as we rolled out.

Other was a bird strike/ingestion after takeoff from MIA in 1995, AA MD-80. We leveled out low, circled out over the ocean and dumped fuel, then returned to MIA. The real problem was the captain took awhile to come on and tell us what was up, so those of us who had flown from MIA b4 knew our departure wasn't routine, but didn't know why. Oh and of course the really disguting oder of burned seagull.
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jwenting
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RE: Emergency Landings, Has Anyone Experienced One?

Thu Aug 02, 2001 4:24 am

Several times, actually.
Once in a real crash, was offered a trip in a glider. The towing cable broke during takeoff and we crashed back to the ground.
Second was when during a flight (Aeroflot Tu-154) we developed a serious fuelleak. "precautionary landing" turned a planned 1 hour stop into a 20 hour one. No facilities, no spotting (USSR airfield, top secret). We were locked up under armed guard for the duration.
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LuckySevens
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RE: Emergency Landings, Has Anyone Experienced One?

Thu Aug 02, 2001 6:35 am

CO M80
DFW->IAH
Midway through the flight the captain told us that we had lost hydraulics. We did a very fast approach and used only brakes. The worst part was sitting far far far out on the runway waiting for the darned tug to bring us to the gate. Big grin
(over an hour before we were back underway)

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