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Most interesting Mainland to Hawaii Aircraft

Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:12 pm

I am looking to fly from the US Mainland (probably LAX, but I am open) to Hawaii next month and am trying to find something interesting to fly on. Delta and United offer 757s, American 737-900s or A321s.

Is there anything interesting that flies to Hawaii these days? The best I could find is a United 777, but the 3-4-3 seating concerns me a bit.
 
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Re: Most interesting Mainland to Hawaii Aircraft

Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:16 pm

How about Hawaiian Airlines' A330s.
They use them from most West Coast cities, as far as I know.
 
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Re: Most interesting Mainland to Hawaii Aircraft

Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:20 pm

Or, Hawaiian's 767s. They'll be leaving the fleet soon, pending the A321's engine problems getting ironed out. Maybe grab a ride on while while you can?
 
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Re: Most interesting Mainland to Hawaii Aircraft

Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:24 pm

AA doesn't have any 737-900's.

Maybe the DL 757-300? That's a relatively rare bird (especially compared to the 752, 738, 739, A32x etc.)
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Re: Most interesting Mainland to Hawaii Aircraft

Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:26 pm

Hawaiian A330's are superb and the service is outstanding. Vacation starts on the plane. With UA, AA or DL one may as well be in Newark until the ship arrives in Hawaii...
 
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Re: Most interesting Mainland to Hawaii Aircraft

Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:29 pm

SFOA380 wrote:
Hawaiian A330's are superb and the service is outstanding. Vacation starts on the plane. With UA, AA or DL one may as well be in Newark until the ship arrives in Hawaii...


I could not agree with you more, HA hands down is the best service to the Islands, A-321 or A-330 you will be treated well & that 5-6 hours will seem shorter than you'd eventually want it to be. I'm big 6"4, 51 & 235lbs. I slept in the HA Y seat, back in 2012, on one of their now disappearing 767 fleet.
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Re: Most interesting Mainland to Hawaii Aircraft

Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:36 pm

Hawaiian A321-NEO piques your fancy? Superb hospitality and a pretty new bird to fly on. They fly it OAK to Maui
 
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Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:39 pm

If it were me, I'd be down to a DL 753 (rarity), a HA A332 (product), or an HA A321neo (new frame).
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Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:06 pm

RWA380 wrote:
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I'm big 6"4, 51 & 235lbs. I slept in the HA Y seat, back in 2012, on one of their now disappearing 767 fleet.



You are definitely not going to want to fly on the HA A321
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Re: Most interesting Mainland to Hawaii Aircraft

Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:20 pm

UA flys the 764 EWR-HNL
 
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Re: Most interesting Mainland to Hawaii Aircraft

Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:34 am

Do they serve meals on the east coast to Hawaii flights?
 
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Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:40 am

I like the LAX to HNL first morning dep on Delta. Int 767 with lie flats. Second would be Hawaiian A330.
 
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Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:45 am

Meals on HA JFK/HNL? Definitely, two meals.
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Re: Most interesting Mainland to Hawaii Aircraft

Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:50 am

My wife, her sis and her mom and I took a trip to Oahu back in the summer of '15. We had a choice to fly from SAN or LAX. The price for economy at LAX (more frequency) on HA was higher than from SAN (1x daily). So we flew from SAN, splurged and upgraded to premium economy; which was still cheaper than reg economy from LAX! The aircraft was A330. The experience was wonderful. The PE area was very quiet. It was my first time flying the A330.
 
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Re: Most interesting Mainland to Hawaii Aircraft

Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:54 am

I would definitely fly Hawaiian. Not only do they serve complimentary meals in Y, they have new interiors on their A330s which aren't even that old and they put a lot of effort into making them feel authentically Hawaiian.
 
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Re: Most interesting Mainland to Hawaii Aircraft

Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:54 am

If you are willing to fly out of Vegas there is always Omnis charter flight from LAS-HNL...it's a 762 usually.

I'm not entirely sure how to book it but the flight is operated on behalf of Boyd Gaming.

There is also the Kaiser Air flight between OAK and KOA...operates twice a week.
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Re: Most interesting Mainland to Hawaii Aircraft

Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:05 am

Every so often UA will send a 77W, usually from SFO to HNL but you certainly can't count on it. Beyond that, I agree with a lot of posters above. DL and UA fly the 753 (a rare bird all around), HA and AS/VX fly the 321N which are very new. Additionally, AS/VX also operates the only 320 service to the islands if we're getting frame specific. Almost every airline with WB service offers Lie-Flat seating in first so its more or less a wash in terms of hard product.

If you're looking for an interesting experience in addition to interesting plane types, UA and AA operate 772's into OGG which has a short runway. AA operates the 763 into LIH which has a shorter runway still. Pretty neat experience to land at such small airports onboard such large aircraft. UA also operates a 738 into ITO. While the aircraft type is plain Jane the approach into ITO's Runway 8 can feel like Kai Tak as planes loop in over Hilo Bay though that specific flight lands after dark.

If you plan to island hop during your trip I recommend MW. The operate a fleet of C208's and boarding takes place on the ramp rather than from a jet bridge. Additionally, they fly at much lower altitudes and slower than HA's 712s which provides a different perspective and great views.

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Re: Most interesting Mainland to Hawaii Aircraft

Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:36 am

jpetekyxmd80 wrote:
RWA380 wrote:
SFOA380 wrote:
I'm big 6"4, 51 & 235lbs. I slept in the HA Y seat, back in 2012, on one of their now disappearing 767 fleet.



You are definitely not going to want to fly on the HA A321



Exactly. HA A321NEO = Cramped space in economy. It's a noticeable difference from the 767 and the A330.
 
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Re: Most interesting Mainland to Hawaii Aircraft

Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:39 am

usa4624 wrote:
I am looking to fly from the US Mainland (probably LAX, but I am open) to Hawaii next month and am trying to find something interesting to fly on. Delta and United offer 757s, American 737-900s or A321s.

Is there anything interesting that flies to Hawaii these days? The best I could find is a United 777, but the 3-4-3 seating concerns me a bit.


there's nothing wrong with UA's 777 from ORD. not a bad ride - and like you I despise 10 across 777.
but as others have said - HA's 767/A330's offer the best overall experience....... a taste of the islands before you even push back from the gate.
But it really just depends on where you are starting from - personally, I wouldn't backtrack just for the plane.
 
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Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:58 am

FlyHappy wrote:
usa4624 wrote:
I am looking to fly from the US Mainland (probably LAX, but I am open) to Hawaii next month and am trying to find something interesting to fly on. Delta and United offer 757s, American 737-900s or A321s.

Is there anything interesting that flies to Hawaii these days? The best I could find is a United 777, but the 3-4-3 seating concerns me a bit.


there's nothing wrong with UA's 777 from ORD. not a bad ride - and like you I despise 10 across 777.
but as others have said - HA's 767/A330's offer the best overall experience....... a taste of the islands before you even push back from the gate.
But it really just depends on where you are starting from - personally, I wouldn't backtrack just for the plane.


I'll preface this post by saying I've never flown HA long haul but do fly them frequently inter-island.
I always hear people say your vacation starts onboard and you go as far as to say before you even push back. What about HA makes people say this? Is it the music they play, is it the color schemes they use in their cabins, is it the staff? I've flown AA, DL and UA to and from Hawaii (multiple islands) and I've never felt any more or less like I was going home (or vacation) than the other. Its been a long time since I've flown AA to the islands and my last DL flight was a redeye to the mainland but UA often plays Hawaiian themed music on over the intercom during boarding and before pushback and cabin crew usually wear flower print aprons. I've even seen some with a flower tucked behind their ear and even full lei's.

I'd be interested to know what aspects specifically drive people to say this beyond HA's own marketing.

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Re: Most interesting Mainland to Hawaii Aircraft

Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:02 am

scoping2008 wrote:
jpetekyxmd80 wrote:
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You are definitely not going to want to fly on the HA A321



Exactly. HA A321NEO = Cramped space in economy. It's a noticeable difference from the 767 and the A330.


And both of the PDX flights are going to the A-321, so I'll keep paying for coach & upgrade to F on AS like we always do, although two upgrades are max per flight to Hawaii, one must purchase the day the flights are viable for booking to get guaranteed upgrades.
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Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:05 am

77H wrote:
FlyHappy wrote:
usa4624 wrote:
I am looking to fly from the US Mainland (probably LAX, but I am open) to Hawaii next month and am trying to find something interesting to fly on. Delta and United offer 757s, American 737-900s or A321s.

Is there anything interesting that flies to Hawaii these days? The best I could find is a United 777, but the 3-4-3 seating concerns me a bit.


there's nothing wrong with UA's 777 from ORD. not a bad ride - and like you I despise 10 across 777.
but as others have said - HA's 767/A330's offer the best overall experience....... a taste of the islands before you even push back from the gate.
But it really just depends on where you are starting from - personally, I wouldn't backtrack just for the plane.


I'll preface this post by saying I've never flown HA long haul but do fly them frequently inter-island.
I always hear people say your vacation starts onboard and you go as far as to say before you even push back. What about HA makes people say this? Is it the music they play, is it the color schemes they use in their cabins, is it the staff? I've flown AA, DL and UA to and from Hawaii (multiple islands) and I've never felt any more or less like I was going home (or vacation) than the other. Its been a long time since I've flown AA to the islands and my last DL flight was a redeye to the mainland but UA often plays Hawaiian themed music on over the intercom during boarding and before pushback and cabin crew usually wear flower print aprons. I've even seen some with a flower tucked behind their ear and even full lei's.

I'd be interested to know what aspects specifically drive people to say this beyond HA's own marketing.

77H



(1) Flying an airline named "Hawaiian" helps;
(2) Color scheme of the interior lighting on the A330 is beautiful (light pink and purple tones) along with the seat color scheme;
(3) HA safety video features many beautiful Hawaiian landscapes;
(4) "Hana Hou" magazine with heavily Hawaii-specific content staring at you for about 5 hours;
(5) HA Flight Attendant uniforms are definitely distinct from other carriers;
(6) HA serves a complimentary Koloa Rum Punch Mai Tai;
(7) Lavs on the A321NEO are even "Hawaiian" themed, including the exterior occupied sign.

All of this works because Hawaiian is basically a region-specific carrier. I really don't think their flight attendants are particularly better than the rest. Hawaiian does a good job playing off the natural beauty and excitement of traveling to the state.
 
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Re: Most interesting Mainland to Hawaii Aircraft

Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:14 am

United operates the 777-200 on many Hawaiian routes. The non-ER version is actually very rare these days. I have heard the ride isn't the best, but if you are looking for rarity, that is probably one of the best. United also uses the 767-400ER from the East Coast, which is equally rare, but I don't think that's a legitimate option if you are flying from LAX. UA used to have a 764 from SFO to HNL for a few years there.
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Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:23 am

I will put in a plug for both AC 763 YVR-HNL as well as Virgin America (and make sure it is their airframe, not Alaska).
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Re: Most interesting Mainland to Hawaii Aircraft

Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:20 am

77H wrote:
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I'll preface this post by saying I've never flown HA long haul but do fly them frequently inter-island.
I always hear people say your vacation starts onboard and you go as far as to say before you even push back. What about HA makes people say this? Is it the music they play, is it the color schemes they use in their cabins, is it the staff? I've flown AA, DL and UA to and from Hawaii (multiple islands) and I've never felt any more or less like I was going home (or vacation) than the other. Its been a long time since I've flown AA to the islands and my last DL flight was a redeye to the mainland but UA often plays Hawaiian themed music on over the intercom during boarding and before pushback and cabin crew usually wear flower print aprons. I've even seen some with a flower tucked behind their ear and even full lei's.

I'd be interested to know what aspects specifically drive people to say this beyond HA's own marketing.

77H


scoping2008 wrote:
All of this works because Hawaiian is basically a region-specific carrier. I really don't think their flight attendants are particularly better than the rest. Hawaiian does a good job playing off the natural beauty and excitement of traveling to the state.


Scoping's explanation, in entirety, is a detailed and spot on answer.
Yes, its purely human psychology, and HA doesn't have to advertise it to be effective. For you, being a resident (or something close) of Hawaii , are not going to have your senses "tricked" by any aircraft decor, etc. But for most visitors who infrequently travel there (maybe once in their life, even), stepping on an HA plane is a completely different experience than any other carrier, and so the "vacation begins there" is seemingly a real thing.

Nothing more, nothing less.
And, it wouldn't matter if HA sucked (mainland to island), but I dare say they are the best carrier flying the routes - I mean, AA/UA/DL/AS/SY/G4/WS/AC/et al - which of these provide a better, more unique experience? None, I say.

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jpetekyxmd80 wrote:
RWA380 wrote:
SFOA380 wrote:
I'm big 6"4, 51 & 235lbs. I slept in the HA Y seat, back in 2012, on one of their now disappearing 767 fleet.



You are definitely not going to want to fly on the HA A321


Why? Please explain...have you flown on it yet? I'm a total Avgeek...flew on it in Y+ out of Oakland back in late January and enjoyed every minute of it.

Just my experience...others mileage may vary.

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Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:54 am

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You are definitely not going to want to fly on the HA A321


Why? Please explain...have you flown on it yet? I'm a total Avgeek...flew on it in Y+ out of Oakland back in late January and enjoyed every minute of it.

Just my experience...others mileage may vary.

Moe


Probably because he is 6'4" and Economy on the A321Neo has 30" pitch (according to their website). Seat width is 17.3" on the neo, compared to 18" with 32" pitch on the 767s. (according to SeatGuru)
 
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Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:03 am

That seatguru stuff is probably not exactly right, regardless, HA's 321 is tight in standard economy. 30". Not really different from new configs on UA, AA, DL.. but not something i would seek out as anyone, let alone a taller guy.
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jpetekyxmd80 wrote:


You are definitely not going to want to fly on the HA A321


Why? Please explain...have you flown on it yet? I'm a total Avgeek...flew on it in Y+ out of Oakland back in late January and enjoyed every minute of it.

Just my experience...others mileage may vary.

Moe


Probably because he is 6'4" and Economy on the A321Neo has 30" pitch (according to their website). Seat width is 17.3" on the neo, compared to 18" with 32" pitch on the 767s. (according to SeatGuru)


I didn't see anything in the OP's post indicating he was limited to flying in Y or Y+..other than a comment about the 3-4-3 on UA 777...just sayin'. Maybe I'm wrong though.
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aeromoe wrote:
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aeromoe wrote:

Why? Please explain...have you flown on it yet? I'm a total Avgeek...flew on it in Y+ out of Oakland back in late January and enjoyed every minute of it.

Just my experience...others mileage may vary.

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Probably because he is 6'4" and Economy on the A321Neo has 30" pitch (according to their website). Seat width is 17.3" on the neo, compared to 18" with 32" pitch on the 767s. (according to SeatGuru)


I didn't see anything in the OP's post indicating he was limited to flying in Y or Y+..other than a comment about the 3-4-3 on UA 777...just sayin'. Maybe I'm wrong though.


You're wrong. When someone seeks input on selection and does not specify the budget to fly J/F, then its always the case that Y is what is in question. Always.
 
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FlyHappy wrote:
aeromoe wrote:
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Probably because he is 6'4" and Economy on the A321Neo has 30" pitch (according to their website). Seat width is 17.3" on the neo, compared to 18" with 32" pitch on the 767s. (according to SeatGuru)


I didn't see anything in the OP's post indicating he was limited to flying in Y or Y+..other than a comment about the 3-4-3 on UA 777...just sayin'. Maybe I'm wrong though.


You're wrong. When someone seeks input on selection and does not specify the budget to fly J/F, then its always the case that Y is what is in question. Always.


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Virgin America. Gotta go soon though.
 
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Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:02 pm

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If you are willing to fly out of Vegas there is always Omnis charter flight from LAS-HNL...it's a 762 usually.

I'm not entirely sure how to book it but the flight is operated on behalf of Boyd Gaming.


The simple answer is, for the general public, you cannot, the only way for the public to fly it is to book through http://www.boydvacationshawaii.com/ and book a flight/hotel package.

A few times a year the flight is opened up to Boyd employees for I want to say $350 rt, but those are only at slow times of the year in Vegas. The flight itself is excellent, certainly better than the legacies except HA with the lie flat seats up front.

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Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:35 pm

DL does an A330 from ATL and SLC now as well.

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