stirling
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Shortest Widebody Flight

Sun Jun 27, 2004 1:30 am

Back in the Nineties, UA had DC-10s flying COS-DEN, a distance of some 67 miles.
This flight was not a tag to another flight, as the flight number began in COS and terminated in Denver. This was at a time when W7 was siphoning passengers out of DEN with assinine fares. (SJC-COS $169 r/t)
I would think this would have to be the shortest scheduled Widebody flight of all time. 24 minutes.
However, the point of this topic is so you can prove me wrong.
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SonicKidatBWI
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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Sun Jun 27, 2004 1:35 am

This topic has been discussed A LOT!!! To avoid posting topics that have all ready been discussed just do a "Search". The link is located at the top of the webpage.
 
citationjet
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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Sun Jun 27, 2004 2:03 am

The search is a wonderful tool. I typed in "shortest widebody" and found the following links.

I would think your answer would be here:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1489341/
This thread had 220 responses.
or
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1537820/
This thread had 22 responses.
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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Sun Jun 27, 2004 2:06 am

Sonickid You know, if a guy joins 14 days ago and wants to start a discussion that you already have participated in, then just go to another thread and let others who may not have seen it talk about it. Try to avoid seeming like a jerk with that response.

Stirling, that has my example beat to heck. I was going to say Shannon to Dublin on DL back when they had L-1011's on the route. It was around 100 miles as the crow (or Lockheed flies).
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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Sun Jun 27, 2004 2:09 am

I remember AC had a 744 YOW-YUL for a few months back in 1997.
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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Sun Jun 27, 2004 3:40 am

How far is that in NM? Was it a stand alone route or s continuation route?
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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Sun Jun 27, 2004 3:48 am

SonicKidatBWI, so rude and unwelcoming, shame on you!
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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Sun Jun 27, 2004 3:50 am

and the answer to the question is Swansea (SWS) to cardiff (CWL) on the antonov myria. A little bumpy and i cared not for the IFE
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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Sun Jun 27, 2004 4:16 am

Eastern Airlines had an L1011 fly MIA-FLL I can drive that distance in 20 minutes with no traffic. And I flew on an A300 from MIA-PBI, probably 55 miles. That flight continued on to LGA.

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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Sun Jun 27, 2004 4:20 am

While this topic is discussed to death, there are two newer kids on the block. LTU now flies RSW-MIA (104mi) and Eurofly now flies MIA-FPO (112mi). They are both part of triangular routings (DUS-RSW-MIA-DUS and MXP-MIA-FPO-MXP, respectively).
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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Sun Jun 27, 2004 4:31 am

Also, think JAPAN.........there are several very short Japanese domestic flights that operate with 744 and other large aircraft.
 
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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Sun Jun 27, 2004 4:41 am

Without a doubt, in Asia there are many airlines operating short-haul domestic routes with the 747.
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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:26 am

As noted earlier in this topic, Eastern once flew an L-1011 the 35 miles between FLL and MIA. I flew this routing one time in the mid-1980's, and the TriStar had all of 8 passengers on board. It is now nothing but a very fond memory.
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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:36 am

the 35 miles between FLL and MIA

MIA-FLL is 18 miles.
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scottysair
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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:41 am

He's right!! It is only for 18 miles to MIA. It very short ride on the car or plane, too.
 
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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Sun Jun 27, 2004 7:00 am

As long as we are on the subject Again... Not that its a bad subject because there are new things happening every day ~

What about 747-4 BFI - SEA - BFI that would definitly classify a short flight riight?

[Edited 2004-06-27 00:02:33]
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rdu777
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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Sun Jun 27, 2004 7:04 am

Maybe I'm just not understanding this, but could someone point out why you would take a non-stop flight to a destination within 75 miles (if that is where the flight stops and doesn't continue to another place), when you could drive there. I know in some cases driving would take almost as long, and in others there may not be any easy direct routes to the destination, but for some of these routes just seem like they wouldn't be needed. But I know, if the airline feels starting such a flight will work than I'm all for it.
 
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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Sun Jun 27, 2004 7:09 am

Seriously if this topic is discussed one more time, I will start my own topic asking when NW DC-9's will be replaced, or why LH doesnt have any PTVs???

Anyways here is a shorts flight by KLM CCS-AUA on a 747 , it was part of the AMS-CCS-AUA flight.

I also remeber when there was a huge shortage of oil in Venezuela, most European airlines used to stop in the Caribbean to fill up the gas tank
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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Sun Jun 27, 2004 11:47 am

I have flown STT-STX-MIA on an AA A300; STX landing was required for payload purposes until the STT runway was extended.

I have also flown MBJ-KIN on a JM 340...on a LHR-MBJ-KIN routing.

Also flown SMF-SFO on a UA D10. Got bumped off the nonstop DENSFO and got to visit SMF. Seems to me they should have had the D10 on DEN-SFO and the 72S on DEN-SMF-SFO!

Finally, have been on a PSA L10 from LAX to SAN...on a SFO-LAX-SAN routing.


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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Sun Jun 27, 2004 11:53 am

I was devirted to CLE when EWR closed due to weather on a CO 767-200. The flight from CLE to EWR was less than 50 minutes.
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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:30 pm

Virgin flies their B744 from TAB to GND and back, between LGW. The flight is about 20 minutes.
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777ualsfo
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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:36 pm

During the 2000 Silicon Valley boom, UA several times flew 747 LAS-SFO, 55 min to catch up when they were hit by massive weather delays of their shuttle - 737s.
 
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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Sun Jun 27, 2004 1:30 pm

I just worked a PDX-OGG-HNL today on a HA767 with the last segment only 18 mins long...not too sure about the mileage though.


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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Mon Jun 28, 2004 1:29 am

AA flew the DC-10 and 767 between DFW and AUS as recently as the early to mid 90's. You spent more time taxing than flying. Nowadays, I just as soon drive it. Car trips under 3 hours come close to beating the plane.
 
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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Mon Jun 28, 2004 1:48 am

Mine was an Aer Lingus Boeing 747-148 EI-ASJ from Shannon to Dublin (many years ago). A very impressive performance with immediate sharp turn after take-off with great views of the Irish countryside.
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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Mon Jun 28, 2004 1:17 pm

Also back in AA's DC-10 days,

DFW to Memphis was upgraded to a DC-10 on Elvis' birthday to accommodate all the fans going to Graceland to pay tribute to the King. If you showed up for the flight looking like Elvis, you were upgraded to first class. Jelly donuts were served to all pax.
 
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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Mon Jun 28, 2004 7:44 pm

Maybe I'm just not understanding this, but could someone point out why you would take a non-stop flight to a destination within 75 miles (if that is where the flight stops and doesn't continue to another place), when you could drive there

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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Mon Jun 28, 2004 9:34 pm

Delta L1011 from Honolulu to Maui.
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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:43 pm

Malaysia Airlines fly from Penang & Langkawi Islands to Kuala Lumpur on 747-400s four times a week - the flights are just under an hour. They are apart of MH's LHR-PEN-KUL & LHR-LGK-KUL services.
 
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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:45 pm

Same as CougarAviator...
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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Tue Jun 29, 2004 7:58 pm

From Zurich to Geneva with a Swiss MD-11, flight continued to LAX.
 
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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Tue Jun 29, 2004 9:02 pm

Some that I can think off are:

AA SJU-SDQ A300-600R (1 hour tops..maybe some minutes)
AA SJU-STT A300-600R (20 min flight)
AA MIA-PAP A300-600R ( 1 hour and then some )


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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Tue Jun 29, 2004 9:06 pm

Also IB will now be doing:

MAD-TENERIFE w/ B744, thats over 2 hours but no more than 3 hours I believe. Very short flight for such a large aircraft.

They also serves at times one of their "Puente Aereo" flights between MAD-BCN w/ A340's.
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RE: Shortest Widebody Flight

Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:33 pm

My shortest was ZNZ-DAR on a Gulf Air 767-300, en route to MCT - 46 miles, took 12 minutes.
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