nomorerjs
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New To Forum, Thoughts On UA Survival

Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:53 am

Hello all, I'm an aviation nut (go figure and found this interesting forum) and wanted to get your thoughts on the survival of UA.

Clearly, labor (labour for our friends across the pond) and management do not get along. Outside of Telecom, full-service / full-cost US flag carriers are the most likely to go belly up in the short-term.

Solutions:
Ax the current management at UA. They want to stop funding the pension for employees that have given quite a bit back for the carriers survival. In addition, they have brought back the days of Jack Wolfe.

Focus on your strengths! This would be Chicago, Denver, and San Francisco. Dulles to UA is the Dallas to DL and LAX has too much competition and WN flies to the airport. Cut your losses and move on. Emphasis should be placed on international service where there is limited low cost carriers and higher fares.

Reduce frequency on routes and add bigger planes! I'ld rather fly a 319 with less frequency than an RJ every 3 hours. Heck, the time saved in delays with reduced flights makes it a better option.

Add more international flights! Outside of the Caribbean, low fare carriers do not fly abroad. This is a huge O&D market with substantial premium traffic. Move European Dulles flights to ORD, add ICN, SCL, BOG and Central America to the schedule.

Simplify the fleet. Is it necessary to have 733/735, 319/320, 744, 757/767, 777? Five fleet types is not terrible to manage, but reducing one or two would reduce operating expenses.

Just my thoughts.
 
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RE: New To Forum, Thoughts On UA Survival

Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:08 am

Well by playing armchair CEO to a topic that has been discussed 9 billion times, you're gonna catch some heat and start a few wars. Better don the asbestos suit and hed for the bunker because you really opened Pandoras Box.

But welcome to the site anyway!



 
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RE: New To Forum, Thoughts On UA Survival

Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:08 pm

Ax the current management at UA. They want to stop funding the pension for employees that have given quite a bit back for the carriers survival. In addition, they have brought back the days of Jack Wolfe

Who the hell is Jack Wolfe? Related to Virgina Wolfe, maybe? Surely not a past UAL CEO, that's for sure. I remember seeing and listening to a STEPHEN WOLF...could that be who you mean?

Add flights to ORD, huh? In case you don't have a TV or newspaper or internet access, the government has been hammering the airlines for cutting back flights at ORD, and finding other solutions. DEN and IAD will need to pick up some of that traffic. UA has a lot invested in IAD, especially on the international scene, and won't back down, not ever. UA is here to stay in IAD.

Ax the current management, huh? And just who is in line to take over the CEO spot at UAL? I can't imagine anyone's beating down the front door in Elk Grove Township wanting that job. Bankruptcy sucks...and this management team has had to make some tough decisons, with many more to come. As far as curent management is concerned, I'll bet you didn't know that a large majority of them are NEW, and that a lot of the older ones have left in the past two years. Keep Tilton and Brace and their immediate team...they're the ones who have led UAL this far, and much farther than anyone imagined.

Welcome to a-net, and do some research first before posting next time, OK?



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RE: New To Forum, Thoughts On UA Survival

Wed Sep 01, 2004 6:21 pm

NomoreRJ's: Would you like me to introduce you to UA/UAX's network out of Dulles (schedule based on Wednesday, September 1, 2004)

ABE: 4x SF3 (Shuttle America)
ALB: 5x ER4 (Trans-States)
AMS: 1x 777
ATL: 5x CRJ (AWAC), 1x CR7 (Mesa)
AUS: 2x CR7 (Mesa)
BDL: 4x ER4 (Trans-States), 1x CRJ (AWAC), 1x 733
BGM: 3x SF3 (Shuttle America)
BNA: 3x CRJ (2x AWAC, 1x Mesa)
BOS: 2x 319, 1x 320, 3x 733, 1x 752, 2x CRJ (AWAC)
BRU: 1x 763
BTV: 3x ER4 (Trans-States), 1x CRJ (AWAC)
BUF: 3x CRJ (AWAC), 2x ER4 (Chautauqua)
CAE: 4x CRJ (Mesa)
CDG: 1x 777
CHO: 4x CRJ (AWAC)
CHS: 4x CRJ (AWAC)
CLE: 4x CRJ (Mesa)
CLT: 4x CRJ (2x AWAC, 2x Mesa)
CMH: 6x ER4 (Chautauqua)
CRW: 3x SF3 (Shuttle America)
DAY: 3x SF3 (Shuttle America)
DEN: 1x 319, 1x 320, 2x 733, 3x 752, 2x 777
DFW: 1x 733
DTW: 5x CRJ (3x Mesa, 2x AWAC)
EWR: 4x CRJ (3x Mesa, 1x AWAC), 3x ER4 (Trans-States)
EZE: 1x 763
FLL: 3x 32S (Ted)
FRA: 1x 744, 1x 777
GRU: 1x 763
GSO: 3x CRJ (AWAC), 1x ER4 (Chautauqua)
GSP: 4x CRJ (Mesa)
HPN: 4x SF3 (Shuttle America)
IND: 5x ER4 (4x Chautauqua, 1x Trans-States), 1x CRJ (AWAC)
JAX: 5x CRJ (AWAC)
JFK: 8x CRJ (AWAC)
LAS: 3x 32S (Ted)
LAX: 2x 319, 2x 320, 3x 752, 1x 763, 1x 777
LGA: 8x CRJ (AWAC), 1x 735
LHR: 1x 744, 1x 777, 2x 763
MCI: 3x CRJ (Mesa)
MCO: 7x 32S (Ted)
MDT: 3x CRJ (AWAC), 1x ER4 (Trans-States)
MEX: 1x 320
MHT: 2x CRJ (AWAC), 2x ER4 (Trans-States)
MIA: 2x 733, 1x 735
MSP: 3x CRJ (AWAC)
MSY: 2x CRJ (AWAC), 1x 735
MUC: 1x 763
OAK: 3x 320
ORD: 1x 319, 1x 320, 7x 733, 1x 752, 1x 763, 1x 777
ORF: 5x CRJ (AWAC), 1x SF3 (Shuttle America)
PDX: 1x 319
PHL: 5x CRJ (Mesa)
PHX: 1x 320
PIT: 4x SF3 (Shuttle America), 1x CRJ (AWAC)
PVD: 7x ER4 (4x Trans-States, 3x Chautauqua)
PWM: 4x CRJ (AWAC)
RDU: 3x 146 (AWAC), 3x CRJ (AWAC), 1x CR7 (Mesa)
RIC: 3x ER4 (Trans-States), 1x CRJ (AWAC), 1x SF3 (Shuttle America)
ROA: 4x SF3 (Shuttle America)
ROC: 5x CRJ (3x Mesa, 2x AWAC)
SAN: 3x 320
SAV: 3x CRJ (AWAC)
SCE: 4x SF3 (Shuttle America)
SEA: 3x 320, 1x 752
SFO: 3x 320, 3x 752, 2x 763, 1x 777
SJC: 1x 320
SJO: 1x 752
SMF: 1x 320
STL: 3x ER4 (Trans-States)
SYR: 4x CRJ (2x AWAC, 2x Mesa)
TPA: 4x 32S (Ted)
TYS: 2x CRJ (AWAC), 1x SF3 (Shuttle America)
YUL: 2x CRJ (AWAC)
YYZ: 4x CRJ (AWAC)
ZRH: 1x 763

As you can tell, UA flies 308 flights to 76 destinations from IAD, and has a decent north-south presence on the eastern seaboard. The problem is that UA doesn't do a good enough job marketing itself on the east coast, and as a result, most people on the east coast don't fly them, flying airTran, American, Continental, Delta, Independence, jetBlue, Southwest, Spirit, or US Airways instead. Additionally, fares on such routes have been kept artificially high, and as a result, passengers fly other airlines (a UA weakness which I-Air is now attempting to exploit)...
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RE: New To Forum, Thoughts On UA Survival

Wed Sep 01, 2004 6:23 pm

Just wanted to help some of our friends out with some airport codes:

BGM: Binghamton, New York
MDT: Harrisburg, Pennsylvania
ORF: Norfolk, Virginia
SCE: State College, Pennsylvania
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RE: New To Forum, Thoughts On UA Survival

Wed Sep 01, 2004 9:01 pm

Welcome to the forum, NomoreRJs!

New participants often ask questions that have been discussed to death here. To avoid making that mistake, be sure to use A.net's "Search" function. Rather than start a new thread, it's often useful to reply to an older one on the same topic. That way, we all won't have to retype or cut and paste our previous comments.

Otherwise, have great time here. One can learn a lot.
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RE: New To Forum, Thoughts On UA Survival

Wed Sep 01, 2004 9:08 pm

I am due to fly to LAX and SFO with UA in April 2005.

Does anyone have details of any planned changes in LAX or SFO services.
 
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RE: New To Forum, Thoughts On UA Survival

Wed Sep 01, 2004 9:35 pm

Bennett123...Where you flying from? If you are flying LAX-SFO, then you have to round it down from 1 of the 18 daily flights for a type. Usually a 737/A320/757.

If you mean from London ( I see you are from UK) then LAX is daily 777. No change expected. If you are flying LHR-SFO it show April as X2 777.

Hope that what you were looking for Bennett

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