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Airlines' Most Daily Flights Out Of A Non-hub City

Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:32 am

Hey, this is just out of sheer curiosity. I apprecaite the information.
I was thinking maybe CO in LAX
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RE: Airlines' Most Daily Flights Out Of A Non-hub

Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:53 am

CO in LAX? Hardly. WN only has focus cities, so I would say LAS and PHX with both having around 160 daily departures on WN.
 
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RE: Airlines' Most Daily Flights Out Of A Non-hub

Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:54 am

CO in LAX? AA has a MUCH more dominant prescence at LAX than CO, and it's not an AA hub.

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RE: Airlines' Most Daily Flights Out Of A Non-hub

Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:57 am

US Airways at LaGuardia, Boston, Fort Lauderdale, Pittsburgh, and Regan.

American at Raleigh, Boston, LaGuardia, JFK, and Los Angeles.

Delta at JFK, Orlando, and Fort Lauderdale.

You are looking in each case at 60+ daily flights, many even 100+ daily. None are hubs. United, Northwest, and Continental do not operate such large focus city operations.
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RE: Airlines' Most Daily Flights Out Of A Non-hub

Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:01 pm

I think he means for the airline itself; that Continental's largest non-hub station is LAX. I might be completely wrong, but that's what I understood from the original post.

If my assumption is correct, I think Continental's largest non-hub station would probably be BOS, mostly because of the large number of mainline flights running from EWR to BOS, plus a healthy amount of flights from CLE and IAH. MCO, TPA, SFO, AUS, and SAT are all pretty decently sized stations for CO I would wager.
 
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RE: Airlines' Most Daily Flights Out Of A Non-hub

Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:02 pm

Besides WN's focus cities what about NW's 30+ flights out of MKE and IND, or AA at RDU and LGA. Neither of those two airports are considered hubs. Right?
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RE: Airlines' Most Daily Flights Out Of A Non-hub

Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:05 pm

In my original post, I meant to say that I thought LAX had the most flights of a non-hub city for CO only. Sorry.
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RE: Airlines' Most Daily Flights Out Of A Non-hub

Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:10 pm

In my original post, I meant to say that I thought LAX had the most flights of a non-hub city for CO only. Sorry.

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RE: Airlines' Most Daily Flights Out Of A Non-hub

Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:11 pm

Doesn't MSY get a healthy does of CO also? Don't they have, like 4 gates there or something running mostly mainline?
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RE: Airlines' Most Daily Flights Out Of A Non-hub

Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:13 pm

ERJ170,

MSY usually gets 14 daily mainline from CO with 3 daily ERJ's. Some days we see 16 mainline, it just depends on the day of the week. CO uses three gates in MSY on Concourse D.
 
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RE: Airlines' Most Daily Flights Out Of A Non-hub

Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:38 pm

At one time MSY and LAX were both legitimate focus cities for CO. That was before CO abandoned nearly all non-hub flying after CALite was dropped. I think that in the late 80s CO was much larger out of LAX than AA and almost as large as UA. At the same time CO had more daily flights from MSY than Delta, the traditional #1 carrier at MSY did.

A note on Delta @ FLL. Delta actually has several fewer mainline flights from FLL now (including Song, but excluding Delta Connection) than they did in 1979. IMHO, Delta has finally in the past few months realized that they have allowed a market that they should dominate ( and they have traditionally been the largest carrier, even when Eastern was around, though just by a hair in those days) become one of the nation's most competetive. In 1979, I believe they were MIAs second or third largest airline, behind only Eastern and perhaps National, but ahead of both Pan Am and Braniff who had large MIA operations.
 
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RE: Airlines' Most Daily Flights Out Of A Non-hub

Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:05 pm

Speaking of strictly a station with flights only to other hubs and focus cities................

AA at XNA

9 Daily flights to DFW (1 M80, 3 CR7's, 4 ERJ-45's, 1 ERJ-40)
6 Daily flights to ORD (1 M80, 3 CR7's, 2 ERJ-40's)
3 Daily flights to STL (3 J41's)
1 Daily flight to LAX (1 CR7)
3 Daily flights to LGA (3 ERJ-35's)

For a total of 22 daily flights

or adding a few other destinations but by no means denoting a focus city

AA at BNA

8 Daily flights to DFW (7 M80's , 1 ERJ-45's)
7 Daily flights to ORD (2 M80's, 2 CR7's, 3 ERJ-45's)
5 Daily flights to STL (1 ERJ-45, 2 ERJ-40, 2 J31's)
1 Daily flight to LAX (1 M80)
5 Daily flights to LGA (2 MD80's, 1 ERJ-40, 2 ERJ-35's)
3 Daily flights to MIA (1 MD80, 2 ERJ-40's)
2 Daily flights to TRI (2 J31's)

For a toatal of 31 Daily flights


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RE: Airlines' Most Daily Flights Out Of A Non-hub

Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:32 pm

One could add Columbus also, as it is not considered a focus city by American even though they run a decent number of flights from the city:

AA at CMH

7 times daily to DFW (3 MD80s, 4 E145s)
8 times daily to ORD (2 MD80s, 1 CR7, 4 E145s, 1 E140)
3 times daily to STL (1 MD80, 2 E140s)
4 times daily to BOS(1 E145, 1 E140, 2 E135)
5 times daily to LGA (5 E135s)
4 times daily to RDU (2 E145s, 2 E135s)
3 times weekly to MIA (2 E140s, 1 E145)

Total: 31 daily flights

*Edited: no such thing as a "C"145*

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RE: Airlines' Most Daily Flights Out Of A Non-hub

Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:53 pm

Largest non-hubs for AA, DL, US:

AA: LAX has 157, LGA has 131, BOS has 121, JFK has 84, RDU has 79, DCA has 62

DL: LGA has 112, MCO has 105, BOS has 95, JFK has 95

US: LGA has 204, DCA has 186, BOS has 108
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RE: Airlines' Most Daily Flights Out Of A Non-hub

Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:09 pm

MSY usually gets 14 daily mainline from CO

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RE: Airlines' Most Daily Flights Out Of A Non-hub

Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:54 pm

US will be pretty big in MSY as of 2/7, and even though it's by no means a focus city, it's still pretty impressive when you consider the fact that it's all mainline. We'll have 5 overnighters here as of 2/7! US is solidifying itself as the premier carrier from the Northeast to New Orleans in terms of frequency.

5 flights to CLT (321, 733)
5 flights to PHL (733, 734, 319, 320)
3 flights to DCA (319, 320)
2 flights to LGA (319, 733)
1 flight to PIT (319)
 
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RE: Airlines' Most Daily Flights Out Of A Non-hub

Wed Dec 01, 2004 12:37 am

Southwest at DAL has 123 daily flights.
 
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RE: Airlines' Most Daily Flights Out Of A Non-hub

Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:46 am

WN at ISP. Just built the new $55 million terminal there, and they aren't even a hub. They also just announced the more 4 new gates as well! The local paper says that there will be up to 80 flights when all is done.

I'm pretty sure they have from 28-36 flights a day to:
BWI
MDW
LAS
FLL
MCO
PBI
TPA
BNA
and quite a few direct flights.
BWI has the most frequencies a day.



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RE: Airlines' Most Daily Flights Out Of A Non-hub

Fri Dec 03, 2004 10:57 am

Delta at FLL.
Avianca at CLO.
 
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RE: Airlines' Most Daily Flights Out Of A Non-hub

Sun Dec 05, 2004 1:19 am

Avianca at CLO.


CLO has significantly less (destinations and frequencies) than MDE, obviously.  Big grin



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RE: Airlines' Most Daily Flights Out Of A Non-hub

Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:21 pm

CX at YVR:

2x daily to HKG
daily to YYZ
daily to JFK
AC/AA/UA/DL/B6/WN/US*/CO*/FI/BA/IB/AF/SK/LX/Sabena*/TK/LY/SA/MN/SW/AM/CE*/CX/CA/MU/JL/SQ/TG/MH/KA/5J
 
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RE: Airlines' Most Daily Flights Out Of A Non-hub

Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:57 am

SAA from CPT (weekdays)

3 x BFN
9 x DBN
3 x ELS
4 x GRJ
2 x KIM
4 x HLA
18 x JNB
1 x LHR
1 x MQP
3 x PLZ
1 x NTY
1 x UTN
2 x WDH

total flights per day: 52

These are only schedules that operate every weekday. Some destinations have flights several times per week. In addition there are flights direct from CPT to ATL, FRA, GBE, and SID






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RE: Airlines' Most Daily Flights Out Of A Non-hub

Thu Dec 09, 2004 8:57 am

Lets define what a hub or focus city really is.
A hub is where you can make connections to other flights.
A focus city is just a spoke city that the airline operates numerous flights from.
So SWA does operate hubs at many of thier cities.

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