gilesdavies
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US Hubs - The Good, The Bad And The Ugly!

Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:44 am

Traveling from Europe to the US and flying onto a destination on the west coast, what Hubs would you recommend and which ones would you avoid?

I will be traveling to Seattle in January and looking for a suitable hub to change flights. I am a US Airways Dividend member and would ideally like to fly with a Star Alliance member but is not however essential.

People who know me, know I am a person that can't sit still long and will not be able to make non-stop flight from the UK to Seattle and need to break the journey.

I am only familiar with Philadelphia and Charlotte which I think are both excellent hubs, especially now the new A Terminal at Philly is open. But I am however a little apprehensive about flying with US Airways with their current cash flow situation.

I am looking for a place that has short Passport Control and Security Queues and just generally a light, airy and easy to use airport.

These are not based upon my personal experience but friends/family have told me to avoid Newark, JFK, O'Hare and Dullas.

Have heard good reports about Detroit, Houston and Dallas FW.
 
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RE: US Hubs - The Good, The Bad And The Ugly!

Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:46 am

My personal list

Good
DTW
MSP
CLT
DFW
DEN

Bad
PHL
ORD
IAD
ATL

I know this question is very opinionated, and everyone will have different results.
 
SESGDL
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RE: US Hubs - The Good, The Bad And The Ugly!

Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:47 am

I recommend flying through MSP or CVG on NW or DL. Both are very smooth flowing hubs and are nice airports. LGW-MSP-SEA, you could get on an NW DC-10, which will be rare in the near future. LGW-CVG-SEA on DL. Just my personal suggestions. Enjoy your trip!

Jeremy
 
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RE: US Hubs - The Good, The Bad And The Ugly!

Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:48 am

I would vote for Houston or Denver. However, I do not know if Houston would work for any Star Alliance to then go straight to Seattle. Denver works with United and they have several flights a day from there to Seattle.

Mike
 
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RE: US Hubs - The Good, The Bad And The Ugly!

Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:48 am

Fly US. They are defiantly not going out of business by Jan., I promise you. I would also pick CLT, a lot less hassle than PHL.

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RE: US Hubs - The Good, The Bad And The Ugly!

Tue Dec 14, 2004 9:26 am

I wouldn't pick O'hare, unless you don't care about Delays, and really want to see a crazy US airline hub terminal and a lot of sweet airplanes. It's my fav airport to go too, just all organized chaos. It's great. I go through O'hare as much as i can, i consider the delays and waiting and crowds to be just part of the experience. But if you want to go through an economic hub that your flight probably won't be delayed i would go DEN, DFW, MIA, CLT, SFO, LAX, MSP, DTW....
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RE: US Hubs - The Good, The Bad And The Ugly!

Tue Dec 14, 2004 9:35 am

I luv JFK or EWR for interesting spotting while connecting.

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RE: US Hubs - The Good, The Bad And The Ugly!

Tue Dec 14, 2004 9:44 am

Bad:

Dallas
Dallas
Dallas

Or should I say DAAllAAs?
 
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RE: US Hubs - The Good, The Bad And The Ugly!

Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:12 am

Well as a US citizen I go through different lines of course but I've always had good experiances at Houston-IAH and Chicago-O' Hare

Good and Bad- Newark-Liberty, Boston-Logan

always Bad experiances-
Miami, JFK and DFW

A northern tier hub would probably be easiest in terms of connection flight times but the north in January can be *snowy*  Smile

Good luck!

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RE: US Hubs - The Good, The Bad And The Ugly!

Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:14 am

Houston customs are brutal for European arrival times.
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RE: US Hubs - The Good, The Bad And The Ugly!

Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:17 am

EWR isn't that bad if you are going from one CO flight to another. If you have to change terminals, it can be a hassle, but the monorail makes the journey less stressful. Overall, EWR isn't that hard to get around in, since all the terminals are right next to each other and the monorail makes life easier.
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RE: US Hubs - The Good, The Bad And The Ugly!

Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:32 am

DEN IAH or LAS = good

DFW ORD or SFO = bad

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RE: US Hubs - The Good, The Bad And The Ugly!

Tue Dec 14, 2004 1:08 pm

As Newark777 said, EWR is very easy for connections if you are traveling only on CO - all of Terminal C is accessible post-security, and unless you are going from or to ATL, DFW, or ORD (in which case you probably would have flown there nonstop anyway via DL, AA, or UA, respectively), it is a very smooth airport for connections. This is especially true for international to domestic connections, as CO has their own international arrivals facility that does not get clogged with all of the other international flights at EWR.
 
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RE: US Hubs - The Good, The Bad And The Ugly!

Tue Dec 14, 2004 1:38 pm

If you want to be on star alliance flying UA via ORD would be a pretty good route. I always have pleasant experiences with ORD immigration, and the trasnfer to the UA terminal is an easy ride on the airport train.
 
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RE: US Hubs - The Good, The Bad And The Ugly!

Tue Dec 14, 2004 5:08 pm

Want to stick to Star Alliance, stay with CLT. Avoid ORD like the plague, unless you enjoy sitting and waiting, and waiting, and waiting.
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RE: US Hubs - The Good, The Bad And The Ugly!

Thu Dec 16, 2004 3:16 am

I always found ORD to be a doddle. Very easy.

IAD on the other hand. What a dump.

Could you do SFO?

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RE: US Hubs - The Good, The Bad And The Ugly!

Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:02 pm

It's too bad that US pulled down the PIT hub because it is an excellent airport to fly in/out of. Just a great airport anyway you look at it!

But, since they did, I would say DTW, MSP, CLT, or IAH
 
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RE: US Hubs - The Good, The Bad And The Ugly!

Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:00 am

DEN, EWR, ATL, CVG, DTW= Good.
DFW, ORD, IAD= Bad
MIA= Ugly!!!!!!!!!!
 
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RE: US Hubs - The Good, The Bad And The Ugly!

Wed Dec 22, 2004 7:03 am

I'm again potentially going to be controversial:

This just may depend on the time of arrival. In April, I flew AA into DFW, whilst colleagues took their normal DL flight into ATL; all of us ending up in BTR through the hubs.

Whilst, I thought that 90 minutes to clear customs, immigration and to get to the next gate was unacceptable, my colleagues missed their flight. We were all booked on "scheduled" connections.

The delay for myself meant one less beer; for my colleagues, potentially an ineffective meeting the next day.

Conclusion: Avoid arriving at a US hub around 10:00 to 16:00 hours in post 9/11 times.

Back on topic & for the record, my favourite hubs have been ORD & MEM.

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RE: US Hubs - The Good, The Bad And The Ugly!

Wed Dec 29, 2004 1:34 am

Don't really have any hubs that I hate. Favorite hubs would have to be BOS, JFK, ORD, DEN, IAH, and DFW.
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RE: US Hubs - The Good, The Bad And The Ugly!

Wed Dec 29, 2004 7:42 am

EWR and IAH are both excellent, entertaining, and seamless for transfers if you fly with Continental. That said, especially comparing trans atlantic coach products, there is no other US-based airline thats better!

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RE: US Hubs - The Good, The Bad And The Ugly!

Thu Dec 30, 2004 7:29 pm


I say avoid ORD and DFW.

EWR is a sure shot as its roomy and not that crowded. Customs and Immigration is a walk in the park and you won;t get hassled.

 
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RE: US Hubs - The Good, The Bad And The Ugly!

Thu Dec 30, 2004 9:21 pm

I'm going to fly ARN-ORD-SFO in march with SK and UA, with a 2,5h connection at ORD.

Is that enough?

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RE: US Hubs - The Good, The Bad And The Ugly!

Sun Jan 02, 2005 3:47 am

I've had nothing but good experiences connection in PIT, ORD, and DEN.
 
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RE: US Hubs - The Good, The Bad And The Ugly!

Sun Jan 02, 2005 3:59 pm

I have connected thorough ATL, CVG, DFW, EWR, IAH, LAS, LAX, and STL. LAX was the only one of them that was confusing.

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