cgagn
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To Heathrow: AA 777 Or BA 777?

Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:26 pm

I'm planning a trip to London in mid february, and have decided I'd like to get a 777. I can fly AC from my hometown of Saskatoon to Toronto, then I can either get the BA777 from YYZ to LHR, or continue to La Guardia on AC and get a shuttle (more on that in a moment) to Kennedy for the late flight to Heathrow on the AA777. I'm just wondering if those who have travelled these routes could give some advice? Which would be the best 777 experience? I've never been to New York, and AA 777s are 2-5-2, so a window seat would be better than BAs 3-3-3. Do they both have PTVs? What about security in New York, will I be grilled because I choose to go through the US when not necessary. And finally is it difficult to get from LGA to JFK. I've read that there are shuttles between the 3 airports, so I'm guessing it's not that difficult, but perhaps someone who's tried it could shed some light. Any and all thoughts would be most appreciated.

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RE: To Heathrow: AA 777 Or BA 777?

Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:28 pm

BA! Personally i's always pick a foreign airline over a US based airline, think despite seats, ife, etc.. european airlines sercies all around are almost always better.
 
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RE: To Heathrow: AA 777 Or BA 777?

Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:35 pm

BA no question about it.
 
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RE: To Heathrow: AA 777 Or BA 777?

Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:44 pm

Personally I would pick AA as they have great service....and most of the time they are friendly too.....but at the end of the day it should come down to which is the most reasonable and convinient for you
 
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RE: To Heathrow: AA 777 Or BA 777?

Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:45 pm

Unless flying AA lets you stay a couple of days in New York, you should fly BA as it is less complicated and will probably be a higher-quality experience.

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RE: To Heathrow: AA 777 Or BA 777?

Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:51 pm

BA! (AA's service is far from being "great").

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RE: To Heathrow: AA 777 Or BA 777?

Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:58 pm

I wouldn't make things that complex.  Smile

That said, for that long a trip, you should think about FF programs...and flying BA isn't going to net you very many miles.

I'd pick something where in fact you can get the 10,000 miles (which is virtually half a domestic FF ticket!).

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RE: To Heathrow: AA 777 Or BA 777?

Tue Jan 04, 2005 3:27 pm

go for AA!!! more legroom in coach is the very good slogan for them! and i also like their silver machine! anyway i think both AA and BA's service are not 'great' after all...
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RE: To Heathrow: AA 777 Or BA 777?

Tue Jan 04, 2005 3:42 pm

I would highly recommend an AA Boeing 777. I had the pleasure of flying them twice, on BOS-LHR and LHR-JFK. The 2-5-2 configuration offers plenty of flexible legroom, PTVs are on the seats, and I was very satisfied with the service on board. Very very relaxing ride. Can't speak for BA, but I can say you will definitely like AA's Boeing 777s. Ride them while MRTC is still around  Big thumbs up
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RE: To Heathrow: AA 777 Or BA 777?

Tue Jan 04, 2005 3:54 pm

I have flown the late flight out of JFK to LHR, on AA steel. It's not bad at all. Unless you just want to be able to tell people that your flight was YYZ-LGA-JFK-LHR, I would recomment the more direct flight from YYZ-LHR on BA steel. The only time I flew BA was LIS-LHR, not a pleasent experience at all on BA. I need to give them another try though. I have had great service on all AA flights thus far.

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RE: To Heathrow: AA 777 Or BA 777?

Tue Jan 04, 2005 4:41 pm

I would have to suggest BA. Only flown with them on the YVR-LHR route a few times in the 744, excellent service! AA I have only flown around North America and while they were great I say take the Speedbird.
 
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RE: To Heathrow: AA 777 Or BA 777?

Tue Jan 04, 2005 4:50 pm

Thank you for all the great replies. I think I'm going to have to agree with some of the replies here, and go with BA for several reasons. Now that I think about it more, it seems needlessly complicated to go through New York, and I wouldn't have the time or money for a proper visit. As well, I'm going to book my return flight on the earlier of the two daily's, operated by a 744. It will be nice to get on the -400 again, its been several years now. I usually take AC when I visit relatives in the UK, so I've had my share of A330/A340 flights. Hopefully BA will provide me a great trip, I've heard good things about them.

I'd really like to visit New York, so maybe I'll try and plan a proper visit this summer!! Thanks for the advice.

C-GAGN

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RE: To Heathrow: AA 777 Or BA 777?

Tue Jan 04, 2005 5:25 pm

Cgagn,

You chose wisely, the LGA-JFK transfer is a pain in the ass. You would have to get bags and recheck for an international flight, prolly would need minimum 2 hrs for that. The shuttle is $35 I think one-way, and forget getting a NYC cabby to get you between the airports for under $50. The hardway is fun though somtimes. Instead of flying CO to see my folks AUS-EWR-LIS, I chose KL and went AUS-MEM-AMS-LIS. I had a huge layover in AMS and got to hang out. Be sure and write a report of your flight!

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RE: To Heathrow: AA 777 Or BA 777?

Tue Jan 04, 2005 5:38 pm

Go for BA, although I didn't fly AA. Who knows you might even get upgraded to World Traveller Plus if you're lucky, and travelling World Traveller.
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RE: To Heathrow: AA 777 Or BA 777?

Tue Jan 04, 2005 5:47 pm

C-GAGN, I can only confirm the sentiment.

I have only been on two 777s, G-YMMN (BA, Trent 895, JFK-LHR) and N791AN (AA, Trent 895, LAX-MIA) and they both had PTVs and I really don't think that you will be able to savour the 777-ness of either one more than the other.

I would personally choose BA and also forget the hassle of doing LGA-JFK.

Plus there is nothing more beautiful now that Concorde is retired than BA 744s with those RB211s.
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RE: To Heathrow: AA 777 Or BA 777?

Tue Jan 04, 2005 9:18 pm

Airliners.net has a specific forum for these type of poll and preference questions:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/aviation_polls/index.main?rand=98
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RE: To Heathrow: AA 777 Or BA 777?

Tue Jan 04, 2005 9:25 pm

C-GAGN,

Have to say i think you've made the wrong choice.

Having flown on both BA & AA T7's many times , AA win even if its just for MRTC.

BA's cramped seating (31 inch) is a nightmare on a semi-longhaul flight .

Anyway best of luck,
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RE: To Heathrow: AA 777 Or BA 777?

Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:29 am

Well I would Imagine the BA has PTV on there 777. And that trip would be alot easier. But I flown AA 777 a few times and I love the plane. Windows seats are great. Plenty of room and good service.
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cgagn
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RE: To Heathrow: AA 777 Or BA 777?

Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:14 am

My decision to take BA from Toronto is based more on convenience and timing than anything else. I can keep my original plan of flying the 777, and keep it somewhat convenient as well. For arguement sake, if AA flew YYZ-LHR with the 777, I'd probably fly them. I'd like to experince the 'more room in coach' seating, and the 2-5-2 arrangement appeals to me more. I have nothing against American Airlines and would love to fly with them sometime, but after thinking about it, and the responses I've got from A.Netter's, BA seems to be the right choice for this trip. Thanks to all those who took the time to reply!

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RE: To Heathrow: AA 777 Or BA 777?

Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:12 am

Good choice. I've taken BA 777s across the pond many times and have always found the flights enjoyable.

Have a good trip! Big grin

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RE: To Heathrow: AA 777 Or BA 777?

Wed Jan 05, 2005 7:47 pm

hey


I would suggest Virgin  Laugh out loud

The security is not that bad at JFK especially in Terminal 4, which is VS.


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Both interiors look the same. I would personally choose BA, becuase I always prefer to fly a foriegn airline.
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RE: To Heathrow: AA 777 Or BA 777?

Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:34 am

The shuttle is $35 I think one-way, and forget getting a NYC cabby to get you between the airports for under $50


great to see that you live in TX and know all about NY. Please don't reply unless you know about the subject.
 
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RE: To Heathrow: AA 777 Or BA 777?

Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:41 am

i have flown from Ny to Lhr with BA777 and the service was amazing..great flight and IFE.. I would personally choose ba
 
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RE: To Heathrow: AA 777 Or BA 777?

Sun Jan 09, 2005 10:27 pm

I have just recently flown an AA 777 LHR-LAX-LHR and I have to say it was excellent, the leg room was amazing and the service was great (better when your flying out of LHR than flying into). I have never flown BA on long haul but I cant tell you about AA as I have flown them to the US a few times. The triple 7 is a great aircraft, really roomy and comfortable and the MRTC is a god send on long haul. Food and service is great with AA and the flight attendants are really nice and helpful, the FA's tend to be older women with AA on long haul to the UK I don't know why this is but I prefer them as they are much nicer than most I have experienced. Flying out of LHR is better than flying into LHR the flights to the UK tend to be night flights and service tend to be toned down a bit, the movies (of which there were 4) weren't that good on the flight to the UK mainly mystery, horror and things like that (I prefer comedy). Flying to the US tends to be day time flights and service was excellent, drinks are complimentary (except booze) and they came round regularly offering snacks and drinks. Food to the US is better too, on both it tends to be chicken or beef! Movies to the US are better I watched without a paddle, sharktale and some other movies. A few gripes with AA, It was really hard to get window seats so check what seats are available before you book, and get your seats assigned when you book, there are no other seats available at check in! (I was told 30% of seats were unassigned for check in only). Personally I would base my decision on price and the least complications! Connecting is tough enough in one airport without having to travel to another to do it!
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RE: To Heathrow: AA 777 Or BA 777?

Mon Jan 10, 2005 12:24 am

Why not fly United's 777? Flying to LGA and then out to Kennedy is silly. AC and United are Star Alliance members and your connections in either Chicago or Dulles will be very easy.
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RE: To Heathrow: AA 777 Or BA 777?

Mon Jan 10, 2005 2:01 am

I would say AA for one thing.... you wont have much confusion


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RE: To Heathrow: AA 777 Or BA 777?

Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:08 am

I wouldn't make things that complex.

common this is airliners.net ... we LIVE for complex itineraries Big grin
 
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RE: To Heathrow: AA 777 Or BA 777?

Sun Jan 16, 2005 1:01 am

I definately agree with Bicoastal.

I am a huge UA fan, particularly on their 777's. Loads better that AA or BA and you could connect at ORD, IAD or JFK from toronto. Additionally UA are Star Alliance (whose FFP are light years ahead of those in One World) so you can earn some decent miles.

If you are already a Star Alliance Silver or Gold member, then you will most likely get to sit in Y+ on UA (this gets u an extra 5 inches of leg room, food, ife and service same, but the space is great)

UA would definately get my vote, unless you weren't interested in miles, then connect in IAD or EWR or JFK for a VS flight to london

Happy flying, Let us know what u decide..

Regards
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