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Who Will Become The Very Last B747-400 Operator.

Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:53 pm

We all know that the 744's will grace our sky for many many years to come,
but I was curious about what airline you think will keep them in service the longest.
It is likely that we will see them as freighters for a really long time to come, so
I would like to know your opinion about the PAX-aircraft only.
IMO it's obvious that NW is a serious contender in this little contest.
 
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RE: Who Will Become The Very Last B747-400 Operato

Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:56 pm

Maybe Air France. They just ordered some new ones a while ago, and they don't plan on replacing them with the 773, although they operate them aswell


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RE: Who Will Become The Very Last B747-400 Operato

Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:57 pm

I guess Saudia  Smile
They like 747s and especially during Hajj times 747s are very profitable
 
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RE: Who Will Become The Very Last B747-400 Operato

Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:11 pm

I guess a small airline flying 2nd hand planes but needing big passenger loads for hadj or prestigious routes, like Air Dabia, Phoenix Aviation (Sharjah), Surinam Airways, LAB or Orient Thai. These sort of airlines were the last flying pax DC-6/7/Connies in the 1970s, DC-8s and 707s in the late 80s and Tristars and 747-100s now.
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RE: Who Will Become The Very Last B747-400 Operato

Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:20 pm

Out of the mainline carriers I think JAL would be up there.
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RE: Who Will Become The Very Last B747-400 Operato

Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:03 pm

How about NW, the launch customer of the 744 and perennial "whipping boy" in these threads for flying old planes?
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RE: Who Will Become The Very Last B747-400 Operato

Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:42 pm

I dont see Air New Zealand dropping their 747s anytime soon
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RE: Who Will Become The Very Last B747-400 Operato

Mon Jan 31, 2005 11:08 pm

I don't see anybody dropping 747-400's anytime soon. In say...twenty years the 747-400 retirement threads will replace those of the DC9's. And given Northwest's "habits"...I'm voting for them.
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RE: Who Will Become The Very Last B747-400 Operato

Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:01 am

Ah........... I say British Airways.
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RE: Who Will Become The Very Last B747-400 Operato

Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:49 pm

I dont see Air New Zealand dropping their 747s anytime soon
Air New Zealand will start retiring their B744 fleet in about 10 years time for new B773ERs.
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RE: Who Will Become The Very Last B747-400 Operato

Fri Feb 04, 2005 6:59 pm

It'll be sooner than that for NZ, 2010-2011 they will start to retire them, i'd say the last will be gone by 2013. Could be wrong though.
 
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RE: Who Will Become The Very Last B747-400 Operato

Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:57 pm

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If I remember correctly one of the NZ members said that around 2010 the B773ER order will be announced.
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RE: Who Will Become The Very Last B747-400 Operato

Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:06 pm

Yup say 2010 order with first delivery in 2011 through to 2014-15. I guess they will go for 8-10 aircraft depending on route structure i.e second daily to LHR.

Back to the original topic I think QF will be among the last mainline carriers with 744's! The ER's are still virtually brand new and VH-OJS, T, U are 5 years old, so i'd imagine they will be around for a fair while yet!

AF will likely be up there aswell!
 
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RE: Who Will Become The Very Last B747-400 Operato

Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:47 pm

Qantas will have them for a long time to come, i don't see the 744 vanishing from the skies anytime soon, it's the backbone of alot of the worlds major airlines and has many good years left in her.
 
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RE: Who Will Become The Very Last B747-400 Operato

Sun Feb 06, 2005 6:25 am

I dont think that any of these BIG airlines will be, because most of these airlines dont run old planes (in terms of dilvery). It will be the same in the future.
I think the 747-400 will be in the skys for atleast for annother 20-30 years.
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RE: Who Will Become The Very Last B747-400 Operato

Sun Feb 06, 2005 8:08 am

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Agree with you there i cant even start to think QF without 747/400 as it has been like the company symble for some time
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RE: Who Will Become The Very Last B747-400 Operato

Sun Feb 06, 2005 11:58 am

Dude, airlines have their own markets, their own variables -- that's impossible to tell.

>>"I think the 747-400 will be in the skys for atleast for annother 20-30 years."<<

I agree, those operators that have the plane will keep the plane until they determine that need something else whether less or more. It'll be while.

Consider that the 707 & 727 are damn old and still flying.


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RE: Who Will Become The Very Last B747-400 Operato

Sun Feb 06, 2005 7:10 pm

I guess Air-India...they hate to give away their old planes  Smile The 744s forms a sizeable amount of their fleet.

They like 747s and especially during Hajj times 747s are very profitable

Why don't they go in for the A380s? That should really help during Hajj.

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RE: Who Will Become The Very Last B747-400 Operato

Sun Feb 06, 2005 7:44 pm

I think NW is the obvious choice to be the last to have a considerable usage of 747s by a major airline, but who knows who might hold on to one for a little while.
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