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Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:44 pm

I'm novice to stock investments and want to know which airlines you feel are worth investing in. I'm looking at jetBlue, which is at $18.18 right now with a 52 week high of $31.00. I'm using sharebuilder, and if anyone's familiar with it, recomendations by financial analysts are given; in this case 2 strong buys, 2 buys, and 6 holds, with 0 sells.

I appreciate your input. A search of this very topic brought up a thread from 2001, and with the stock market, you obviously can't go by statistics from 4 years ago.

Thanks,
Adam
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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:15 pm

Some famous words of a well known American Entrepreneur.

The fastest way to become a millionaire?................ First ,be a billionaire and invest in an airline!


If you really need to invest your money into something just have a look at the offshore business, still some lucrative opportunity's in that.
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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:27 pm

Quoting Arniepie (Reply 1):
The fastest way to become a millionaire?................ First ,be a billionaire and invest in an airline!

That made me smile for some reason, I wasn't expecting that punch line.

I know...airlines aren't the best industry to invest in, but lets just say you're a dumb 20 year old with some extra cash and wants to put a couple hundred into an airline to see what happens over the course of a year?

I'm not talking my whole life savings, I'm talking 300 bucks.
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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:38 pm

Why don't you look beyond airlines, whose stocks are pretty volatile, and consider airports instead?
 
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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:58 pm

Why don't you just invest in me? Big grin

Sorry, I agree with Backfire, airline stocks are up and down all the time, mostly down though.

"A young mother with her child was at the gate waiting to board their flight when she noticed an older gentlemen who was talking to himself, pacing around and constantly hitting his head against the windows. Concerned, the young mother went to the gate agent and asked if the gentlemen was OK. The gate agent smiled and replied...oh, its nothing to worry about, he's just one of our investors!"
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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:04 pm

if you want to make money fast then the best way to invest is banks, mining stocks and companies of that nature, with oil costs the way they are and the airline market being very unpredictable your better off directing your money elsewhere.

i have QF stock, it's worth alot less now then when i first purchased it, now i've got to sit and wait til it gets to a certain price so i can sell it at a profit!

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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:10 pm

But if you insist on airlines - you could try BA which is probably going to unveil a record profit this week.
 
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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:41 pm

This won't help but maybe interest you, since you won't be able to do it.. but 9W (Jet Airways -India) has a crazy potential. During the recent IPO, everything gone within less than 10 min!  Wink
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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:11 pm

Iberia first choice

Mexicana second choice

Aeromexico third choice

Sourthwest fourth choice

Jet Blue fifth choice.
 
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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:39 pm

How about investing in:

- Catering companies.
- Airports (as has been mentioned)
- Oil futures assuming oil will continue to go up.
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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:11 am

Quoting Adam (Reply 2):
I know...airlines aren't the best industry to invest in, but lets just say you're a dumb 20 year old with some extra cash and wants to put a couple hundred into an airline to see what happens over the course of a year?

I'm not talking my whole life savings, I'm talking 300 bucks.

Is your idea to make money, or just to blow 300 bucks "just because" it's something related to aviation and you are a (dumb 20 year old) aviation enthusiast?

Any investment pro would hear your story and say "go buy your mother a nice gift with that money", rather than recommending that you invest with your strategy. The airline industry is not a good investment, period.

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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:34 am

... wel that might sound stupid but currently Swiss seems to become a quite interesting company to invest in ( short term - potential about 30% in one to two months...)
Once the Lufthansa deal will become official , the stock should have gained some pretty added value..
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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:37 am

SkyWest - Symbol: SKYW

LAN Airlines - Symbol: LFL

Look at the institutional ownership, 50-day moving average against price, and volatility of SKYW. Although I would not hold on to this stock very long. Just a quick buy and sell.

Maybe it's a bit too late to buy LFL now, but a few months ago it would've been a great buy. Just look at their one-yr chart!

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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:40 am

You may want to check out the plane makers (Boeing and Airbus/EADS) as well as the engine makers (Rolls Royce, GE). Boeing is high right now, around $57; I don't know about EADS. GE is a diversified company that makes more than engines, so it might be worth checking out as a long term core investment.

I have bought and sold airline stocks in the past, and have even made money on them, but I waited until they were irrationally beaten down before purchasing. For example, Continental (NYSE: CAL) was around $4 not too long ago (2003), and it's now $11, despite the company's financial troubles. So, if you're set on airline stocks, wait for them to come down (and I think they will with oil heading north) and then reassess them at that point.

But you know what they say about free advice like that on a.net: you get what you pay for.

Good luck.

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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:43 am

Quoting FLY2LIM (Reply 10):
Is your idea to make money, or just to blow 300 bucks "just because" it's something related to aviation and you are a (dumb 20 year old) aviation enthusiast?

Do you ever reply nicely in your posts?

Adam, I forgot to mention. I am also in your age group and I always try to avoid buying stocks that are more than $10. If you just want to play around with the market, just buy something that's around $5-$10 and see what happens. I wanted to buy SKYW and LFL a few months ago, but if I would've spent $200 then my number of shares would've been limited. Instead I bought a $6 stock which is now at $15. I use sharebuilder and you can do good research there, but try also moneycentral or marketwatch

There are some cheap oil & gas companies you could look into (hint, hint).

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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:46 am

Why not try the Canadian market

AC or WS ?????

Both were up like $4.00 the other day and Im sure there only going to get higher since there really the only two left in the market.

(not excluding Canjet and Harmony of course)

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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:56 am

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 7):
9W (Jet Airways -India) has a crazy potential

I'm hesitant to be bullish on Jet Airways for now because they will be beginning another cycle of heavy capital spending - and their performance in the last capital spending cycle left them saddled with a lot of exorbidantly priced debt that they struggled to service.

While all indicators are solid for Jet to be succesful in longhaul services, there does need to be caution on that front because it IS a new area of business.

Quoting Komododx (Reply 12):
SkyWest - Symbol: SKYW

SKYW has very solid fundamentals and an excellent cash position. The long term outlook however is somewhat shaky with an almost total reliance on United and Delta for its revenue stream - and both engaged in their own restructuring process.
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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:13 am

Quoting FLY2LIM (Reply 10):
Is your idea to make money, or just to blow 300 bucks "just because" it's something related to aviation and you are a (dumb 20 year old) aviation enthusiast?

Any investment pro would hear your story and say "go buy your mother a nice gift with that money", rather than recommending that you invest with your strategy. The airline industry is not a good investment, period.

Yes and no on the making money aspect... I really just wanna play around with trading and such. Any first time investor (like myself) who thinks he/she is going to make major money in 1 year is obviously kidding themselves. I want to invest a couple hundred bucks and see where it goes. Through my research on sharebuilder, jetblue had a good projection, as far as airlines go. As for your first question, if I'm reading correctly...I'm only investing in the stock market because I'm an av. enthusiast? No. I have other investments in mind, but why would I ask about Sirius Satellite Radio and Time Warner Cable stock in an aviation forum? If I were to invest in jetblue, I don't think it would be a mistake.
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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:13 am

My advice is don't unless you are day trading. This is a volatile part of the market...
Where's the passion gone out of the airline industry? The smell of jetfuel and the romance of taking a flight....
 
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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:30 am

I would have to say EK is a good choice!

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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:31 am

9W [Jet Airways] Def.
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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:11 am

If you really would like an airline industry related stock package I would suggest RR-engines and GE, 2 reasonably certain bets.
And for the somewhat more risky bet I would take AMR (American Airlines) because they have a very good chance in surviving the current US airline industry recession and turn some decent profit once the market turns.
They still have a lot off good bases : the Southern US, Caribbean and South America and a decent market share in Chicago , also they still have a good relationship with BA.
As long as they don't start going on an unnecessary shopping trip (737/787/777) they should be doing okay.
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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:38 am

If you are out to make money through dividends and/or value appreciation, US-based airlines should be avoided.

However, many US-based airlines, especially the legacies, have perks for shareholders, although some now are wiser and smarter and have certain minimum values where these apply.

So if you don't have relatives in the industry, and plan to do some travelling, some airline shares, even if they become worthless in say 2yrs, may still give you a good return.
 
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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:49 am

You could make a low buy-bid for Delta.... It's trading for just above $4.00. Low trade on Friday was $3.80, high was $4.30.

What other airlines have you looked at with this sharebuilder program/system?
 
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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Mon Mar 14, 2005 4:04 am

Quoting B747-437B (Reply 16):
I'm hesitant to be bullish on Jet Airways for now because they will be beginning another cycle of heavy capital spending - and their performance in the last capital spending cycle left them saddled with a lot of exorbidantly priced debt that they struggled to service.
While all indicators are solid for Jet to be succesful in longhaul services, there does need to be caution on that front because it IS a new area of business.

Sure. But which one would you invest in? Other than your longstanding emotional investment in Air India, of course.  Wink

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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:58 am

Investing in Air Canada and WestJet a couple of weeks ago would have been wise.  Smile
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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:29 am

Quoting Komododx (Reply 14):
Do you ever reply nicely in your posts?

Not sure exactly where you come from with that question. First, he asked and I answered with my opinion. Second, the part in parenthesis is a direct quote from Adam, not mine.

My question to you is, do you ever read posts carefully?

Quoting Adam (Reply 17):
Yes and no on the making money aspect... I really just wanna play around with trading and such. Any first time investor (like myself) who thinks he/she is going to make major money in 1 year is obviously kidding themselves. I want to invest a couple hundred bucks and see where it goes. Through my research on sharebuilder, jetblue had a good projection, as far as airlines go. As for your first question, if I'm reading correctly...I'm only investing in the stock market because I'm an av. enthusiast? No. I have other investments in mind, but why would I ask about Sirius Satellite Radio and Time Warner Cable stock in an aviation forum? If I were to invest in jetblue, I don't think it would be a mistake.

Adam,
Glad to see you did take my question the right way and not as "not being nice". Seeing as you plainly understand the risk and about "kidding oneself", your strategy may pay off in the end for you, especially with the other pieces of advice in this thread.
As for other stock, I know there are a.nutters who could help you. Maybe your question could have been "should I invest in B6 or would you suggest Sirius instead?". That may work and pass as "aviation related".
Good luck,
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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:32 am

Some famous words of a well known American Entrepreneur.

The fastest way to become a millionaire?................ First ,be a billionaire and invest in an airline!


Warren Buffett was the 'well known Entrepreneur'

Right now, and for some time to come, stay the heck away from airline investments. Even Southwest has lost its Wall Street luster. SW, although solid will price fluctuate for the time to come and even at good times rarely moves more then a few dollars from its current price. The 'boat' for SW has long ago sailed with the prime time being the mid '80's.
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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:14 am

Quoting FLY2LIM (Reply 26):
"should I invest in B6 or would you suggest Sirius instead?".

Yes indeed that would have been a good question, being more specific to my needs. I wanted to know soley about B6.

Quoting FLY2LIM (Reply 26):
That may work and pass as "aviation related".

Maybe, but then I'd get chewed out by someone saying "this is an aviation forum, not a place to get stock tips on satellite radio" I really just wanted everyone's knowledge on airline investments only, specifically jetblue. And after reading everyones advice, I'm gonna go ahead and stay away from the airline industry, and stick with stocks under $10.00/share.

Thanks for your input.
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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:49 am

Quoting B742 (Reply 19):
I would have to say EK is a good choice!

Rob!

how's he going to invest in EK? they aren't even listed on the stock market!
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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:34 am

I would never invest stock in a single airline.
 
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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:58 am

Don't do it.
You're better off putting it on red or black in Vegas.
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RE: Which Airlines Would You Invest In?

Tue Mar 15, 2005 9:46 am

Avianca, LAN, JetBlue or GOL.

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