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Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:02 pm

Hi folks,

I know this theme might seem a bit taboo but I decided to give it a try.
Back in 1987 I went to this airshow in Switzerland with my parents. It was small anncient aircrafts. Well I still remeber this old piper taking off and then suddenly falling down to crash on apple trees ! Luckily the airplane didn't fall from too high and the pilot somehow got off safely !

I'm sure there are many people out there that have seen something more impressive. Living close to an airport I have dreamt many times of an airplane crashing nearby but thankfully I've never had to support that experience

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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:08 pm

Yes, the cockpit of an Airfreight NZ convair 580 that crashed into the sea during a freak storm last year. The cockpit with the dead co-pilot still inside it was taken to the local marina.
 
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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:08 pm

I saw an aerobatic plane crash at AKL in 1992 during the airshow. Can't remember if the pilot survived or not, but was not pleasant viewing.

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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:16 pm

US Army C-12F, outside Juneau Alaska 1992. I didn't witness the crash, but I got to assist in the aftermath, once we could get to it in the fog at a bit over 3000 feet.

No one witnessed the crash. I got there the day after, as there was no getting in to the crash site on the day of the incident. On board were 8 US Army personnel, all but two I knew fairly well.

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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:24 pm

I saw the F/A 18 crash on take-off at RDU last year. Pilot ejected and was ok...airplane was junked.

It could have been a major disaster had it happened a few minutes earlier as a full NW A320 was pushing back in the path that the flaming wreck skidded through. It also came to rest about 50 yds. short of the re-fueling station for Terminal A...

Back in '94-'95 I went to the American Eagle J-32 crash site in the woods just South of RDU. Like ANC flyer mentioned, not something to soon be forgotten. It's weird, the one thing that stands out in my mind was all the pine trees that were broken off where the plane went into the woods. The Officials had to cut a new path into the dense undergrowth to eventually get the aircraft parts out.
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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:56 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 3):
but I got to assist in the aftermath, once we could get to it in the fog at a bit over 3000 feet.

Two Air India planes crashed in about the same place close to the Mt Blanc in the alps, before landing at GVA. One of the occured in January 1966.I had the luck to see parts of the aircraft that were found coming out of a Glacier...this apparently occurs from time to time since much of the remnants ended up in a crevasse ....
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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Wed Apr 06, 2005 6:10 pm

At an RC Model airshow on a dry lake bed outside Las Vegas in the late 70s a man who was selling ultralights was demonstrating how fast he could take it from trailer to airborne. On the first flyby he jiggled (technical term) the control stick up and down. It came off in his hands - cotter pin came out - and it nose dived in killing him instantly.

Now at that same show a B-17, an RC model, that had been brought over from Germany made his first pass and I caught the left horizontal stabilizer falling off with my camera. That made you sick to see that crash even if it was a model. A very large RC P51 lost it on too tight a turn and made a purple pile in the dust too. Altogether the show was not a real success.

I've seen two General Aviation twins use the dirt between the runways when no gears worked. Both remained upright. One LearJet 31 I think used the foam on rnwy 25 sucessfully. One very heavily loaded charter B747-100 had a first stage fan let go right at rotation. I looked up when I heard the bang and got to see the parts rolling along the runway edge igniting the sagebrush and creosote plants. He dumped fuel and got back OK. These were all at LAS. Oh yeah, I got to see a Capt. ignore the flagman on powerback and make a DC9-30 out of a -50 backwards against the blastwall. Marks are still there.
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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:16 pm

I saw the crash of the soviet MiG-29 fighter at the 1989 Paris Air Show. If I recall well the plane went down during his "Cobra" demonstration. The Pilot ejected and survived.
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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:30 pm

I was on a UA B747-200 flying SFO-LHR in 1995 (I think). We lost a main-gear tyre on take-off and one of the four hydraulic systems failed. I overheard one of the FOs telling the Purser, but I didn't think it was a big deal. So I was surprised to see all the emergency vehicles out for us at LHR. We taxied off the runway, stopped immediately, and the fire trucks foamed us. Then we were towed off to a remote location, waited a while in the plane while lots of activity was going on on the ground, then were eventually bused in to the terminal. Not a crash or even a crash landing, but still a bit eerie.

My cousin was at Tenerife airport when the two B747s collided. He didn't see it happen, but saw the resulting fire. Several years ago, it came up and he mentioned that he still occasionally has nightmares about it.
 
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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:36 pm

I nearly did, once, approximately 5 years ago.

Airtours A321, G-JSJX - Finals at a windy MAN/EGCC, at 50 feet there was a sudden drop in the crosswind and the port wingtip fence (winglet) + nacelle momentarily brushed the concrete. Instantly the pilot flying requested full TOGA, never have I seen an A321 climb so quickly to 3000ft.

It came round, and made a near-perfect side-step touchdown.

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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:39 pm

I saw a Sikorsky S-61 Crash as it came into land when the tail rotor cables snapped and it started to spin out of control, luckily they were only 20-30 ft above the deck and the crew did a great job and got it down allbeit after 3 rotations and at a 45 degree angle.
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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:59 pm

I had just signed up for flight instructions at MacArthur Airport (ISP) on Long Island and I was sitting in the airport coffee shop having lunch. Looking out, I saw a trail of fire moving from left to right; looking further to the right, I saw an airplane sliding along on its belly with the flames in pursuit.
Then I saw several people evacuate the airplane (A Beech Model 18) as the fire reached it. A short time later the firetrucks arrived and started leaving a lovely pile of foam about 20-30 feet short of the airplane. Slowly, they worked up to the plane putting the foam on top of the plane. The fire was coming from the bottom of the wing where the fuel tanks had been opened while the plane slid on its belly. So the fire would die down and then eventually break through the layer of foam and erupt again. The result was a weird version of Indian smoke signals. I vowed then and there never to crash and burn at ISP.
 
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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:30 am

At the beginning of my long and varied Air Force career I was a young engine mechanic on 4Sqn Harrier GR.1's at RAF Wildenrath in Germany.

One morning I was on earlies and we had a 4-ship to see off. All four started and taxiied out to the opposite end of the runway. They were taking off in pairs.

The first pair started their roll, but, shortly into it, they aborted and turned off. The second pair then started. The lead aircraft got airborne, but the last jet also aborted. The only one to "fly" made it to about 300' when he suddenly levelled out and ejected - very impressive! The Harrier proscribed a perfect arc and dived, pilotless, into the runway and proceeded to plough up toward 3 Sqn's line buildings, from which people suddenly began to run like hell! It came to a halt and proceeded to burn fiercely.

We, as all young men would be, were quite cheered by this. Our Warrant Officer, nicknamed "Carrot Top" was running up and down the line crying "It's one of our's, it's one of our's!" We, on the other hand were simply worried about who had done the turn round servicing. Once we realised it wasn't us, we sat back to watch the spectacle.

Quite entertaining, especially when the pilot on his chute drifted toward the burning wreck.

I've seen a few other wrecks, but the most enduring memory I have is the Ariana Afghan 727 which crashed short of Gatwicks runway sometime in the late 60's. The sight of this jet with just the nose and tail intact left me with a burning desire to sit either at the front or rear of any airliner I flew on.

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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:31 am

Hi there,

I did not witness the crash itself, but I have seen a burnt hole after the China Airlines A300 B-1816 had crashed at Nagoya airport in 1994.
Shocking experience for me anyway.

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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Thu Apr 07, 2005 2:06 am

Yes, in December 2003.

I remember it very well. I was at work. During my time with the Norwegian air force, I worked at the Sea King rescue squadron in Bodø, northern Norway.

It was December 4th 2003, around 8:30 PM. Still dark outside, with some snow, and heavy winds around 60 kts, gusting 72 kts.

While I was sitting behind the operation desk, the phone rang. (My job was to receive and distribute information to the crew, so I would receive any emergency calls.) I answered the phone, and it turned out to be something non-important. While I was on the phone though, the direct line to Bodø twr started ringing. One of the pilots who happened to be there picked up the phone. We hung up at the same time, and I noticed he reached for the "Scramble" button to sound the alarm. "Listen" he said "this is no exercise".

He informed the rest of the crew the following:

A Kato Air Dornier 228 carrying 4 people, heading towards Bodø, had been struck by lightening, and lost the elevator rudders. They were maneuvering only with the help of the trim. Mayday had been called out.


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The crew rushed to the helicopter, and prepared to depart in case the plane didn't make it to the airport.
I walked over to the window, and not long after the planes approach lights could be seen. It approached rwy25. I could tell something was very wrong with the plane, as it was bouncing up and down in large motions. Like a rollercoaster. Climbing and descending constantly.

As the time came to land, the pilots must have thought it was no good, and pulled up into a steep climb. I've never seen a civil plane climb that steeply. I was sure he would stall out in the strong winds and fall to the ground any time. But the plane stayed in the air, and managed to go around for another landing attempt.

Once again, I could see the lights bounce up and down in the darkness, as the plane approached the rwy. Like all planes landing on rwy25, it disappeared behind the corner of the terminal building for a short period. But unlike the other planes, it didn't reappear and roll out on the rwy. "He's down..." said another employee at the squadron in the room. Ambulances and emergency vehicles rushed to the scene. Over the radio I heard that all had survived, with only moderate injuries.

Quite an experience to have witnessed.

I was amazed that the pilots had managed to get the plane to a "safe" landing after first getting hit by lightening, then been flying temporarily blind for 5 minutes following the flash, and then keeping the plane in the air for nearly 30 minutes using the trim.

Well done to the crew. Though the plane never flew again.



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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:58 am

I was at SEA one time, I can't remember the exact year but it was around 1988 give or take a year. A Horizon Dash-8 had taken off, when the right wing suddenly burst into flames. He circled and came back in, and landed on the runway, but there apparently was no control. He careened off the runway, across the grass, taxiways, and aprons, and smashed into some gates in Concourse B. Fortunately there were no planes parked at those gates at the time, small miracle! I was in the concourse and went looking at the plane right after it hit. The right side was cracked open, and passengers were crawling out the broken fuselage to get away. Trucks were foaming the plane, and the smell of fuel was very strong inside the concourse.

After a couple of minutes security came through and cleared everyone out of the concourse and shut it down.

Fortunately, there were no fatalities among the 30+ passengers that were on board.
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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Thu Apr 07, 2005 2:21 pm

I felt the explosion from a helicopter crash here in Cleveland, OH, in January 2002.

At the time I lived about six blocks from the hospital. At about 12:30 AM, I heard a loud CRACK followed by a BOOM that shook my entire apartment. Within seconds I realized it wasn't a thunderstorm and that I had heard the helicopter taking off but now didn't hear it anymore.
I literally threw on my sweats, grabbed my keys and took off running. I had no idea what I was going to see or whether there was anything I could do to help, but I wanted to go just in case. I ran to the hospital and there was smoke pouring out of the courtyard on the east side of the tower. There were already police and fire engines there and they kept everyone away from the hospital.
The two people who died were cremated in the ensuing fire. The paramedic who survived had severe burns. Windows were blown out to, if I recall correctly, the seventh floor of the hospital.


Here's the report:
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NTSB Identification: IAD02FA026.
The docket is stored in the Docket Management System (DMS). Please contact Public Inquiries
14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Accident occurred Friday, January 18, 2002 in CLEVELAND, OH
Probable Cause Approval Date: 5/13/2003
Aircraft: MBB BK-117 A-3, registration: N626MB
Injuries: 2 Fatal, 1 Serious.

The medevac helicopter lifted off the hospital's roof-top helipad at night. The pilot made a right pedal turn to the northwest, facing a building that extended above the height of the helipad by approximately 10-feet. The paramedic said that when the helicopter was about 20-feet above the helipad, and while he was programming the GPS receiver, a "sudden gust" of wind push the helicopter from directly behind. He was not alerted to anything unusual until he looked up and noticed the helicopter's close proximity to a 16-floor brick building, located at the northern corner of the heliport, which extended above the height of the helipad by 4 floors. The paramedic yelled, "building, building, building!" to alert the pilot. The pilot then made a rapid right cyclic input to avoid hitting the building, but the helicopter struck the building, and fell about 13 floors to ground level. The paramedic did not see or hear any warning lights, horns or unusual noises, and was not aware of any mechanical problems with the helicopter. A police officer who flew two missions in the local area prior to the accident said the wind speed at 500 feet agl was at least 25 knots and gusting from the south/southwest. He stood on the primary helipad after the accident and said mechanical turbulence from the building was evident. An FAA inspector who also stood on the rooftop helipad after the accident said the wind gusts were about 20-30 knots from the southwest and they swirled around the heliport. Review of the helicopter flight manual revealed, "Directional controllability during take-off and landing is assured for flight condition with crosswind components up to 17 [knots]."
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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:16 pm

I have seen plenty of radio controlled model aircraft crash, but the closest I have been to a real plane crash was this


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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:35 pm

At the airport I used to fly out of I saw a bi-plane, no sure of the type flip over onto its back after landing....either braked too hard or caught a freak gust of wind. One time I was hanging out waiting for my instructor and watched a twin land....as it rolled out the nose gear just folded into the wheel well and she grinded to a halt.
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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:20 am

I was at the RMS (Ramstein AFB, Germany) airshow in 1988 when the Italian jets collided. we got it all on tape since i was only 1 year old at the time. My sister and dad were burned by the jet fuel but not bad. Only on their hands and arms. I was with my mom about 600 meters away from them.
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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:58 am

Sadly yes.

I was a the Biggin Hill Air Show a few years ago when they had two fatal crashes on consecutive days. On one day a Vampire jet crashed and the pilot was killed. The other day (when I was there with my brother), an old second world war US plane crashed. I can't remember what it was (single-engined though).

Crashed into the ground at speed and burst into flames in front of the whole crowd. The pilot didn't stand a chance - poor guy.
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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:29 am

Deep breath... several

At Oshkosh in 1978, a T-18 turning from base to final stalled and crashed right in front of me. The aircraft blew up and the two people on board were killed. I have a vague memory of seeing another fatal accident at Oshkosh in either 1979 or 1980.

At Reno, I had my back turned to the Pond Racer when it crashed in 1993. I turned around and saw the smoke plume. As I had helped design the aircraft and I had met Rick Brickert for the first time the night before, it hit hard.

I was also at Reno in 1998 when a T-6 crashed during a start, killing Ralph Twombly. The accident happened in my perpherial vision. The next day, I was on a pay phone talking to my wife when I heard a loud noise and the crash alarm went off again - a P-51 crashed attempting a dead stick landing.

In the early 1980s, I flew in to the Stratford CT airport right after a F4U crashed fatally on take off. Luckily, I didn't see the crash, but the wreckage was obvious in the swamp next to the runway. The line boys had witnessed it and were really jumpy.
 
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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Fri Apr 08, 2005 4:53 am

Well , I saw the second aircraft hit the WTC on September 11 Live on CNN. I was shocked beyond belief.

Only other I have seen is a glider getting hit by some wind and making a hard landing pilot surviving. Got it on tape.

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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:12 pm

I was working in Manhattan on 9/11. Yes, I've seen a plane crash.
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Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:55 am

I was at the FLL Air and Sea show and wittnessed a plane crash.



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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:15 am

Well, I saw the TAME 727 that crashed in BOG in 1998 It took off, and crashed 2 minutes later into a hill, all 80+ on board were killed.
 
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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Sun Apr 10, 2005 4:10 am

Not exactly a crash, but in early 2001, I was driving to a concert in downtown Los Angeles when a low-flying Cessna 172 in obvious distress after taking off from El Monte Airport (EMT) landed on the westbound 10 freeway about 500 feet in front of me. He actually did a really fine job as traffic on that particular stretch was light and everyone got way the hell out of the way. Buy the time I got up to where the plane was to, well, pass him  silly  both the pilot and passenger were out of the plane and just fine, and there was no fire or smoke of any kind. On the news it was reported the plane suffered some kind of engine trouble. In any case, it was quite thrilling to watch!

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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:35 am

I saw a Harrier crash at an airshow about 3 years ago. The pilot ejected but landed on top of his Harrier and broke his ankle. Ouch  frown 
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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Sun Apr 10, 2005 10:08 pm

When I was 3, on the annual airshow of my hometown airfield, a single engine prop performed a looping while switching off the engine, the pilot didn't manage to restart it and crashed in a nosedive less than twenty meters away. He didn't survive.  Sad
 
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Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:32 am

Back in NZ I had a friend from Germany visiting. We went to the airfield for a scenic flight, and while we ere waiting for our plane to return, I saw the 7seater Piper coming back. The club had just acquired the Piper, and people did their ratings for it. They came in, touched down, and took off again. My friend was filming this. Then, after a brief initial climb, the engine went off. I told my friend "look, they are practicing Total Engine Failure After Take OFF!". But the engine did not start again, and the plane went into a field. My flight instructor was on the PiC, with a mature student, who indeed got his rating for the plane. The flight instructor was amazing, and put the plane down in a paddock. Nobody got hurt, and then plane wasn't damaged either. When watching the video later, you could see a part flying out of the engine. Although that was clearly seen, the mechanics couldn't find anything missing. It was assumed that a bird hit the engine, and that the "piece" flying out there was actually a chopped up bird. It later turned out, that this particular aircraft had ongoing problems before, and that was the reason why it was sold...
 
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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:20 am

Just yesterday I saw a B-25 scale model RC plane bite the dust. The guy took it up and did some tricks. Then, he pulled a flip and started a dive from around 100ft. The plane never pulled out, and hundreds of pieces went everywhere! Too bad.
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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:18 am

I spent fifteen years working at Bankstown in Sydney, which in terms of movements was (most years) the busiest airport in the southern hemisphere. I have seen plenty of light aircraft actually crashing there, all landing gear related, and therefore no injuries to anyone. The airport had a crash siren and when it sounded all the hangars facing the runways would empty and we would watch the show. I have seen the aftermath of many more, including a couple of fatals; and helped clean-up after a ground collision between a Metro and an MU-2 where the Mitsu cut the outboard LH wing off the Metro.

I was also the right-seater in one accident, the aircraft was badly damaged but we walked away without a scratch. I did more damage to myself pulling the plane apart a couple of days later. I can think of a good two dozen people I have met during my career who were killed flying aeroplanes, as I'm sure most people in the industry can who have been around for a while.

I have taken lots of photos of crashed aeroplanes, but I will never take a photo of a fatal.
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Wed Apr 13, 2005 11:54 am

I have seen a plane crash. It was a paper plane. lol.
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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:20 pm

I saw the same S61 crash at ABZ as Northseatiger. Remember it pretty clearly actually. Myself and some colleagues were waiting for a flight from NWI to arrive so we could disembark the passangers and saw this S61 hovering about 30ft above the runway. It started to, what can only be described as wobble an spin. One of the guy's i was with made some comment about the crew probably training when the thing just dropped out of the sky. Thankfully the crew did an awesome job and next thing we saw were about a dozen Oil Workers in their survival suits running back towards the terminal. Must have been pretty scary!

I also saw the North Flying???(that might be wrong) metro go down on take-off at ABZ. Can't really remember much about that as we had a hundred or passangers to calm down. Thankfully those guy's walked away, i recall the a/c finished up on the main road leading to the airport. Norrowly missed parked cars at a set of traffic lights.

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Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:05 pm

Several years ago, I saw the remains of a small Cessna that had crashed earlier that day at Teterboro Airport, just off the north end of the runway, and crashing into the fence. The pilot didn't survive. This was only a short distance short of where the Feb. 2nd jet crash that landed across the street from the end of the same runway and into a warehouse, that got a lot of news coverage. Everbody got out of that crash, and only the pilot/co-pilot was injured. A pax in a car hit by the a/c was serious injured in the head, but he has long gone home. They were still fixing the building last I knew. I also saw in Saddle Brook, NJ, the remains of another small a/c that crashed into a warehouse parking lot, killing the pilot and I think 2 pax.
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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Thu Apr 14, 2005 1:59 am

I was on the Austrian Airlines flight 111 to Munich in January last year. We were approaching the airport when we were told to go into the emergency landing position because there was (apparently) something wrong with the airpane. I don't know whether it was hydraulics or not, but the atmosphere in the plane was extremely calm.
Anyway, we landed in a field. The landing felt like a crash (don't know what a real crash feels like, though, but must be horrible). I thought the whole cabin was falling apart. And the sliding seemed endless. We then evacuated, which wasn't very hard, since the nose was on the ground. No fatalities. Some passengers got injured. I hit my head on the seat in front of me (even though that seat also DID move slightly forward).
Wouldn't like to do that again.  Yeah sure

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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:11 am

Way too many!

First one was in 1961 when I was in high school. It was a Luscombe, a taildragger similar to a Cessna 120. Gusty quartering tailwind takeoff, caught a wingtip and cartwheeled. Very minor injuries.

Most recent was at the Reno Air Races, but to be honest, I don't even remember which one it was.

AeroWeanie I also saw the crashes of Ralph Twombly (into a Delta pilot's garage) and Rick Brickert. A friend of mine had taken a good shot of the Pond racer in flight and gave it to Rick. Rick took one look and exclaimed: "Look! Both engines are running!" We had a conversation about the plane. It was obvious that he didn't think much of it. During the conversation my friend snapped a picture of me and Rick talking. I still have that picture, and from the expression on my face I'd say that Rick was talking about the flying characteristics of that plane. He was dead just hours later, and he was a very good pilot.

Just after the T-6 midair happened I stepped into the FAA trailer in the pits and one of my Fed friends said: "When I saw that plane crash I knew you had to be here somewhere." He was making reference to (1.) A twin that had crashed right outside my office. (2.) A cropduster that had just missed my car, crashed into the car behind me, killing a woman and her baby, then burned up the the freeway below the overpass, killing the pilot. Both those events had taken place within the previous four or five weeks.

So I guess you don't want to have me watch you fly. I suppose I've witnessed more plane crashes than car crashes. Don't enjoy it any more with practice, either. Although a helicopter crash at Fort Rucker was one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

The guy was practicing slope landings in an OH-13 and struck the ground with the rotor blade. The blades on those old Bells were balsa wood, with a metal spar and leading edge cap. The blades shattered, breaking the motor mounts. The motor lurching in the frame broke the fuel line. When it rolled over on its side, the fuel sprayed on the exhaust manifold, catching fire.

The pilot climbed out and was walking around picking up pieces of rotor blade like he was gathering firewood or something. We led him away and sat him down.

They could not get the stagefield crash truck started. We ran and gathered all the fire extinguishers we could find and NOT ONE of them worked!

Finally the fire truck got to the crash and the foam pump didn't work right. The foam was splattering burning fuel around instead of smothering it. The burning fuel finally ran under the fire truck and was about to set the motor on fire when someone moved it back a few feet. He jumped out without setting the brake and it rolled down the hill, pulling the guy backwards who was holding the nozzle.

About this time the crash-rescue Huey "Flatiron" arrived and while they were leading the uninjured pilot away for a ride to the hospital for a physical, the crewchief jumped out with his little hand-held monobromotrifluoromethane fire extinguisher and put the fire out. The tanks (crashworthy mod) never exploded, but the fuel was squirting out pretty hard.
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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Sun Apr 17, 2005 6:17 am

SlamClick:

I too felt like a jinx: crashes only seemed to happen at Reno when I was around. Luckily, I wasn't there when Miss Ashley II disintegrated. We'll have to meet up at Reno this year and see if our jinxes cancel out.

Your helicopter crash story is hilarious. Reminds me of the crash of the #1 XH-59A ABC at Sikorsky. A gust caught the helicopter and it pitched up uncontrollably, due to a problem in the flight controls. The pilot was smart enough to put it down, but it hit hard, rolled over and the rotors thrashed themselves to pieces. One gear leg burst a fuel tank and there was quickly a big pool of Jet A on the ramp. The co-pilot, Lou Bajorenus, climbed out and went running for safety. The pilot, Byron Graham, climbed out and started walking slowly through the spilt fuel. Half way to safety, he turned around and went back and kicked the aircraft.
 
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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Sun Apr 17, 2005 8:06 am

Yes, and it's awful.
I saw a plane crash at the Reno Air Races in 1995. I just wanted them to stop and go home after that.
I saw an Adventure Airlines plane crash in LAS killing all pax and the pilot, I think it was a C-402?

Also, I was working at MHR the night Emery flight 17 crashed, and although I did not see it happen, I saw the smoke , fire, and aftermath.

It is awful, and I hope to never witness anything like that again.
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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Sun Apr 17, 2005 8:26 am

Quoting Thom@s (Reply 14):
Yes, in December 2003.

I remember it very well. I was at work. During my time with the Norwegian air force, I worked at the Sea King rescue squadron in Bodø, northern Norway.

It was December 4th 2003, around 8:30 PM. Still dark outside, with some snow, and heavy winds around 60 kts, gusting 72 kts.

Thom@s, I rememer this accident clearly. The day after the incident (in December 2003), whilst I was still working for Eastern Airways at their base at Humberside airport, I met a new prospective first officer for our J32 fleet, who woud be based at INV, from Norway who had flown in for the day to HUY via AMS to attend an interview for the airline. I always remember him showing the Norwegian newspaper article on the accident. We hit it off immediately. He was called Knut Erik ..... (can't remember his last name, we all called him Erik!), but what a truly nice guy!! Hope he's still doing well for T3 on those INV routes! T3 have many good people working for them.
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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Tue Apr 19, 2005 7:09 pm

Saw a Lockheed C-141B perform a wheels up landing at LPLA (TER) back in 1980. They had alot of advanced warning and everything went by the book. Just a little sparks and then everyone running like hell out of the aircraft. Plane was repaired and flew again!

A couple of you mentioned R/C aircraft. My family lost a good friend back in the late 70's (I think it was 1979) when he was hit by an r/c aircraft that slammed into his liver and he bled to death on the spot infront of his kids. I didn't see it, but I'll never forget hearing about it. The ironic thing was that his doctor encouraged him to take up a hobby since he was developing hypertension (he was a lawyer for the U.S. Justice Department). He was just watching the planes as his r/c was being repaired after a crash. MAN, that was freaky!

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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:25 pm

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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Fri Apr 22, 2005 3:20 am

Lfutia,

yes, of course. I don't remember any other Austrian Airlines F70 crashing in Munich. Or am I missing something?
 
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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Fri Apr 22, 2005 4:50 am

Only seen one fatal crash (hopefully the last.)
Was at Woodford airshow a good few years ago now..more than 6 years anyway, it was a Spitfire and I was viewing the airshow from Lyme Park (on a hill overlooking the airfield a few miles away.)
I remember seeing the plane take-off and it did a loop immediately after it was airbourne, I think in the findings it said that the engine cut-out at the top of the loop, and the plane stalled and went nose-first into the runway.
Unfortunately the pilot was killed (something I couldnt understand being so young when I saw it), but I think theyve now rebuilt the aircraft in memory of the pilot.
Also a incident I didnt "see" happen, but saw the aftermath was the Hurricane gear-collapse at Duxford for the D-Day memorial service, I was in the Catalina at the time it happened, but saw the plane nose-down in the gound a good 2 minutes after it happened.
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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:09 pm

Capital146, small world.  Smile

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RE: Have You Ever Seen A Plane Crash?

Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:27 am

Last summer I had the opportunity to go to our Presccott campus of Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University and go through the crash lab there. It was quite interesting getting to basically do an investigation. There they have taken aircraft that have crashed and layed them out as best as they could to resemble what it looked like at the crash scene. I learned quite a bit from that trip and look forward to going back sometime and going through some more of the crashes. I did get to witnes a bonanza do a landing last year with no nose gear. That was quite interesting.
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