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Flying LON-SYD 8 May - Which Airline For Economy?

Mon May 02, 2005 4:41 am

Hi.

I'm flying over to Sydney for a few days next Sunday and have seen various airlines offering cheap flights:

Virgin
Qantas
Austrian
Cathay Pacific
BA

All come in from 520 - 590 inc tax.

I usually use KLM (I'm in the FF programme but their flights are too expensive) but have just registered with Virgin for FF membership in case I book a flight with them.

I know I'll have a stop over which is fine as I may get to do some photography.

Which airline do you recommend?

Cheers.
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RE: Flying LON-SYD 8 May - Which Airline For Econo

Mon May 02, 2005 4:54 am

BA and QANTAS offer similiar superb service, BA just a Tad better. I would recommend considering the connection times, and maybe the airport. SIN is a very nice airport to connect through. They have a pool, you can take a dip in, which is refreshing between 10 hr legs. BKK is not bad, but I dont know of the ammenities being as great there, but it is all a matter of taste.
Austrian is a nice airline, with their A340's, nice seats, with lumbar support, but you give up a tad bit of leg room, but service is pretty good. (Great wine selection and quality).
Virgin- Good service, and nice FA's. Competiting with BA, and BA has GREAT service.
ALL Above have PTV's
BA/QF will not give you full mile awards on discount fares (One World)
Austrian will give full miles (Star Alliance)
Dont Know about CX or VS awards.
Hope this helps

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RE: Flying LON-SYD 8 May - Which Airline For Econo

Mon May 02, 2005 5:02 am

Btblue

What about MH, there also excellent (and you can accumulate miles on the KLM card), or OS otherwise.

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RE: Flying LON-SYD 8 May - Which Airline For Econo

Mon May 02, 2005 5:12 am

Quoting TomFoolery (Reply 1):
Hope this helps

Tom

Excellent. Thanks for that Tom.

I think with Austrian I will be flying a 777 with a short 320 flight from LHR to Vienna.
I have (in case I fly with them) just registered with their FF programme. I don't mind a stop as long as it is not longer then 4hrs.

Quoting Dutch122 (Reply 2):
Btblue

What about MH, there also excellent (and you can accumulate miles on the KLM card), or OS otherwise.

Dutch122

I have looked at MAS (flown them several times) but they are almost fully booked and their Y class seats are now £700. Have looked also at connecting through AMS but still to costly.

Cheers.
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RE: Flying LON-SYD 8 May - Which Airline For Econo

Mon May 02, 2005 5:23 am

Right, I forgot about Lauda Air's 777. If it is Lauda Air, the meals are fantastic, if they are still catered by DO & CO, which is a premier restaurant. Service is fantastic, or at least it was back around 2001 or so. Alot can change. Very nice aircraft, and comfortable. I'm not sure if AUA has incorporated the 777 into their fleet or not, that is why I still refer to it as Lauda Air.

Have a great trip, and dont forget the suntan lotion (A sun burn on one's eyelids is especially uncomfortable, Believe me!).

Tom
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RE: Flying LON-SYD 8 May - Which Airline For Econo

Mon May 02, 2005 7:26 am

Brilliant - will make sure I don't get eyelid burn!

I'll let you know who I decide to fly with. I think It's a toss between Virgin and Austrian/Lauda (not flown on the 777 before or A346).

Cheers

Dan.
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RE: Flying LON-SYD 8 May - Which Airline For Econo

Mon May 02, 2005 7:56 am

You might want to consider the in-flight entertainment on the Virgin A340-600 is hard to beat as you will be on board for a long time!
 
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RE: Flying LON-SYD 8 May - Which Airline For Econo

Mon May 02, 2005 8:43 am

Have been looking at some more flights and I actually found a flight with Korean Air for £504 inc tax. As they are in SkyTeam I get loads of points too so it would appear that's the flight I'll take.

I know their in-flight entertainment is next to nothing (2 movies on the outward leg) but I rekon I could live with it by taking a few mags and books.

I have considered the in-flight entertainment with Virgin. Shall see what the agent has to say tomorrow before I make a firm booking.
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RE: Flying LON-SYD 8 May - Which Airline For Econo

Mon May 02, 2005 8:51 am

Btblue it sounds like a GREAT trip! Have you been to Sydney before? It is a fantastic place. Any of your fares sound tremendous. Enjoy the great (but VERY LONG) flight.
 
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RE: Flying LON-SYD 8 May - Which Airline For Econo

Mon May 02, 2005 9:13 am

Airlines in order of preference in Y class:

Singapore
Malaysia
Qantas
Virgin
British Airways

Airlines in order of preference in C class:

Malaysia
Qantas
Singapore
Virgin
British Airways
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RE: Flying LON-SYD 8 May - Which Airline For Econo

Mon May 02, 2005 10:00 am

Depends on what u r after.

IFE doesn't really faze me, and being 6ft tall, i tend to go with whoever offers 34 inch pitch in economy, My favs are MH and TG.
QF, BA and SQ are 32inch at best.

I think KE is also 34 inch, so in that respect - good call.

i'm actually quite surprised over MH fares. I was under the impression that they offered rock bottom ex-LON.

The other option wou haven't considered is EK.
Flies direct from 5 airports in UK (could save you time and money there), and also offers SYD non-stop ex DXB, and has just introduced services via BKK on the new B773ER.
 
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RE: Flying LON-SYD 8 May - Which Airline For Econo

Mon May 02, 2005 10:10 am

Quoting Btblue (Reply 3):
I have (in case I fly with them) just registered with their FF programme. I don't mind a stop as long as it is not longer then 4hrs.

If I were you, I would register with UA MileagePlus, as it tends to be the most FF Friendly one in STAR
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RE: Flying LON-SYD 8 May - Which Airline For Econo

Mon May 02, 2005 10:36 am

You might also find an OK deal with Lufthansa, codesharing on TG or SQ for the leg to Australia.
 
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RE: Flying LON-SYD 8 May - Which Airline For Econo

Mon May 02, 2005 10:47 am

First, when do you want to come back?
Second. EK is LHR/LGW-DXB-SYD. DXB-SYD is an A345.

Just my .02 cents
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RE: Flying LON-SYD 8 May - Which Airline For Econo

Mon May 02, 2005 11:07 am

I recommend: Malaysia Airlines, Singapore Airlines, Cathay Pacific or Qantas/British Airways.
 
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RE: Flying LON-SYD 8 May - Which Airline For Econo

Mon May 02, 2005 12:20 pm

Quoting TomFoolery (Reply 1):
BA/QF will not give you full mile awards on discount fares (One World)

You can accrue miles at 100% on these airlines. You just have to decide which scheme you want your points on and then book accordingly, eg, to get 100% points on a BA flight for QFF, then book the BA flight with the QF flight number.

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RE: Flying LON-SYD 8 May - Which Airline For Econo

Mon May 02, 2005 1:48 pm

Korean? Then safety is the main thing to think about! Puts seat pitch, IFE and frequent flyer points way down the list of things to worry about!
 
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RE: Flying LON-SYD 8 May - Which Airline For Econo

Mon May 02, 2005 2:04 pm

Quoting A340Driver (Reply 16):
Korean? Then safety is the main thing to think about! Puts seat pitch, IFE and frequent flyer points way down the list of things to worry about!

Don't be such a drama queen A340. KE isn't THAT bad.
even the safest of airlines have their own bad days. QF in BKK, SQ in TPE. need i go on??
 
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RE: Flying LON-SYD 8 May - Which Airline For Econo

Mon May 02, 2005 2:42 pm

Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 17):
even the safest of airlines have their own bad days. QF in BKK, SQ in TPE. need i go on??

I think the Singapore accident had six killed, only injuries in the Qantas crash as far as I know. More important, that was Singapore's ONLY accident; Qantas' first since its only other one (in 1960!).

By contrast, Korean Airlines have had 11 accidents since 1980, all but three of them involving fatalities, and three of them involving hundreds of fatalities.

So, offhand, I'd say that A340Driver's comment is a valid one. Safety is a consideration.
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RE: Flying LON-SYD 8 May - Which Airline For Econo

Mon May 02, 2005 6:23 pm

Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 17):
KE isn't THAT bad.

I got back yesterday from a SYD LHR on Korean (772 and 744) - service was excellent, food great, and aircraft spotless. Honestly, the cabin crew were excellent. I was in business, but Y looked comfortable, with IFE on the 744.

Great Duty Free shopping too - and ICN airport is wonderful, the transit is simple, with an excellent transit hotel if necessary.

Having had my concerns over Korean, I wasnt looking forward to the flights, but the service was superb.

BTW - Dont forget that you can earn KLM miles on Korean thanks to Skyteam!

Have a great time in SYD - where are you staying??
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RE: Flying LON-SYD 8 May - Which Airline For Econo

Mon May 02, 2005 6:35 pm

GIve EK a go, as someone mentioned before 5 U.K departure points, and the option of trying out the A345 DXB-SYD or the new 773er DXB-BKK-SYD, I have personally done the direct DXB-SYD and it was fantastic the IFE and service made the 14hr flight fly by....I'm off to SYD again in June and will be testing out the new 773er DXB-BKK-SYD service can't wait. EK also have some good prices, if you can get seats they are around the £600-£650 inc tax
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RE: Flying LON-SYD 8 May - Which Airline For Econo

Mon May 02, 2005 7:29 pm

I'm not being a drama queen, it is a well known fact about Korean as illustrated above.

Pay your money and take your choice. It's just odd that you all put food, service and ff miles above safety. Interesting psychology is all I am saying.
 
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RE: Flying LON-SYD 8 May - Which Airline For Econo

Mon May 02, 2005 8:42 pm

If i were you, i'd go for SQ, depends on the price though.
Excellent IFE, friendly/excellent service, and on top of all, connection through SIN, personally my favourite airport on earth(Trust me, you don't get bored in SIN). However, if the price is too high, which is possible, go for BA, Cathay Pacific or VS.

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RE: Flying LON-SYD 8 May - Which Airline For Econo

Mon May 02, 2005 11:36 pm

I recently did LHR SYD (2 weeks ago) on JL.

1. Great IFE
2. Great/plenty of food
3. half empty 744's (list armrests sleep across 3 seats)
4. Sit upstairs going there and back
5. Plenty seat pitch
6. It was cheap!

I cant argue with that...
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RE: Flying LON-SYD 8 May - Which Airline For Econo

Tue May 03, 2005 1:27 am

I have just booked my ticket and will be flying with Korean Air.

I have flown MH and Garuda before and thought I would try Korean, A, because they are cheap, B, I get milage and C, I get to fly on a type (777) I have not flown on yet.

I did note peoples concerns over safety but I assume SkyTeam have standards and Korean meet these.

I did take into consideration the lack of IFE on the flight but I'm happy to take my Game Boy and magazines and music so I'm catered for.

It's going to be my first time in Oz - will be staying in Sydney for 4 days and then 3 days in Melbourne so will probably fly with Virgin Blue or something.

On my return I have a wait at Incheon for about 6 hours so I should get some pics. Will of course let you know my flight experience etc and perhaps post some pics of a/c.

If anybody has any suggestions/places to visit let me know!

Dan

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