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Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:37 am

I am flying a 747-400 on SFO-NRT route. I have choice of window or aisle seat. Which one?

I never know what to choose in these situations. I love watching landings and take-offs. However, I also know that Westbound on Pacific routes, window shades will be drawn, so view out will be limited.

Plus, flight is pretty full, so I am likely to have two people next to me, making getting up difficult.

What do you all think? What are the merits?

I need help deciding.

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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:42 am

For those long haul flights longer than six or so hours, I always go for the aisle. The small takeoff and landing times relative to the rest of the flight aren't worth the discomfort of being squished in to the window. But that's just my opinion.  Wink

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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:42 am

Window seat for me. I get very dissapointed if I don't get a window seat in any airplane. But of course, in a 747, it's a real pain in the ass if you need to go to the washroom, because it's "excuse me" twice when you have to get up and again when you come back. And if you're seat partners are sleeping, then you're really screwed.

I'd go for the window seat, but that's just my humble preference.

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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:44 am

Well, here is the pro and con. The 744 has 3 seats on the windows, which means 2 people to climb over to use the restroom, stretch, etc. That sucks. But it is MUCH easier to sleep on the window as you can lean against the wall. Also, you can look out at the water, clouds, etc. It is up to you. I am all about the window.
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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:44 am

Oh, and by the way, no PTVs.

The choice is window close to the little ceiling tvs or aisle in view of big screen.

Thanks

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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:45 am

Aisle seat as I regularly get air sick on a long flight so need quick access to the lavs   

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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:05 am

Window always. It might be a pain when you want to go to the bathroom but no-one ever bothers you to move out of the way and you have a wall to lean against.

Not to mention the views.  Smile
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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:08 am

I always choose an aisle seat next to a window on the ATL-GRU flights. You can get a little extra leg room and then a good view out when you want it.
 
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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:09 am

If in coach, choose the aisle if possible. During most flights, especially over many area of the world, you see little or only open sea, or your above the clouds, or the shades are closed for IFE. Aisles are better when on full flights. Personally, I prefer an aisle on almost all flights, especially if fuller flights. I really don't mind getting out of someone's way but hate to climb over others. Best hope for a light load flight, so get a whole section to lay out on, or have an adjacent seat for your things, more room under the seat or the above seat storage.
 
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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:29 am

Is this a round-trip....try window one way and aisle on the other
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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:01 pm

unfortunately, my options on return are limited. Right now I have a middle seat (dear god no!). I must then hope uprgrades will free up some aisle or window seats.

In many ways, I would prefer a window on the return flights (NRT-ORD), which would be overnight. Then I could keep the window open virtually all the time becuase sunset is quick and the film screen wouldn't be whited out by the sun.

Going SFO-NRT it is a day flight and they make you pull the shades right after the meal.

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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:44 pm

How much do you plan to drink? That may be a consideration.
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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:52 pm

Quoting HKGKaiTak (Reply 6):
Window always. It might be a pain when you want to go to the bathroom but no-one ever bothers you to move out of the way and you have a wall to lean against.

That's true... if you have an isle seat, you'll be getting up each time the 2 people next to you need the bathroom, while that wouldn't be an issue with a window seat... I'd go for the window.
 
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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:50 pm

I always go for an aisle, especially long-haul. I rarely sleep on planes, so I like to have the ability to get in and out of my seat easily thoughout the entire flight.

I'd rather get up and down to allow other people to get in and out, rather than be stuck when I do need to get up.
 
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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:52 pm

I'm a window-man.I refuse to fly if I don't get a window seat.  Wink


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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:01 pm

Quoting AR1300 (Reply 14):
I'm a window-man.I refuse to fly if I don't get a window seat.

I have yet to fly in an aisle or middle seat. I can't see any reason why on would like the aisle. Unless they have a small bladder. But I'm glad some like it or don't care, so the window seat will be there.
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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:12 pm

I'll cast my vote for window too. Place to lean so you can actually sleep! And if you time the bathroom breaks right, no worries on the stepping over. This is one of the reasons I like the 340s; window, quiet and fewer people to step over.
 
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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:16 pm

If you are the type of person that will be able to sleep for a few of those hours, then go for window, if you are like me, who won't ever be able to sleep, go for the aisle. I always get an aisle seat on 6+ hour flights.It's a shame to miss departure and landing, but I have the option of walking around the cabin to strech my legs without disturbing anyone who might be sleeping.

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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:19 pm

I agree with the window, I always like something to lean against to sleep. And of course love to see the take off and landing  Smile But most importantly to SLEEP!!! Thats the one reason I always want a window seat lol
 
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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:20 pm

I believe it comes down to personal preference. You have already mentioned that it's a flight with no personal IFE. If you can't sleep on flights like me, I would recommend the aisle on the side of the a/c. That way, you may have the chance of watching either screen if you are far enough forward.

If you can sleep or can get a little sleep, then go for the window. That way you can look out the window until your heart's content and get some shuteye for the remainder of the time.
 
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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:55 pm

Aisle on the side of the plane is what I normally ask for. When I am not sleeping I always walk around every hour. It is easy to get something from your luggage if you forgot it when seated. It is easy to go the lav. Well I am always drinking a lot, Bloody Mary for start, wine for the food, then brandy for the coffee, wine again to relax and a lot of water. What I hate most is to be stucked in the middle seat. That is why I love the A330/340's and B767
 
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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:20 pm

Aisle......If its a longer journey.The Freedom to move around without having to request someone to move.
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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:10 pm

I'd say window. I can't bear to miss the window seat on any flight, long or short haul.

One piece of advice, drink shorts (whisky/gin/vodke etc). If you are drinking beer or lager you will be up and down all flight.

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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Sat Jul 16, 2005 12:57 am

I still just can't decide.

I love 747s and will regret not seeing the flaps and such. However, I also go the bathroom rather frequently on flights because of dehydration. My strategy on European flights is to drink a lot less. However, with 10 hours and free liquor and the walk around water/juice service, I know I will be tempted to drink more (both non and alcoholic). Plus, ten hours is long-time to sit basically motionless.

Last time I flew this route, the plane was half full and I had a window with the middle seat next to me. The aisle seat guy got up constantly and was almost never there. This time, the flight is virtually full (a few window seats left) and if I have a window I will definitely have two seat companions. That I haven't done on a transpacific 747 flight.

Of course, I could always potentially look out the door window when I get up and down for restroom and drink break.

Does anyone know if United flight attendants typically pull the shades of these door windows during day flights for IFE purposes?

That might be my deciding factor.

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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:00 am

Quoting PER744 (Reply 13):
I always go for an aisle, especially long-haul. I rarely sleep on planes, so I like to have the ability to get in and out of my seat easily throughout the entire flight.

I'd rather get up and down to allow other people to get in and out, rather than be stuck when I do need to get up.

I have the exact same problem. Can't sleep, even on a 12 hour flight. So when flying alone I always go for the aisle-seet.
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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:46 am

On my DTW-NRT (744), well ahead of my departure (weeks) I went online and switched to the bulkhead window seat. Best of both worlds! I had view of leading edges and that flapping wing as well as access to the aisle without disturbing my seatmates. Some carriers may require status to get those type seats...

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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:56 am

Window for me...I like having my little niche at a window. Even though I'll agree that during flight an aisle is more comfortable and more convinient, I perfer a window...

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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:25 am

One word: WINDOW

But it is true that it can be a pain if you have to pass two other people... I only did two longhaul flights and had window both times (in fact, so far, I have always chosen window seats).

On the other hand, if you can get up all the time, you can go to the emergency exit and look out of that window, which also can be a good thing.

But as I said, I would always chose the window seat.

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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:40 am

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 8):
or the shades are closed for IFE.

I never, ever close my shade unless I am getting sun blinded
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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:41 am

Go with the aisle...you won't have to bug people to get up.
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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:20 am

Quoting Jdaniel001 (Reply 29):
Go with the aisle...you won't have to bug people to get up.

But then other people will bug you. I like the window seat but if it's a night flight then it's hard to get out when you have to wake someone up. Why don't you get an aisle seat but also try and get the jumpseat for takeoff and landing.

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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:57 am

Make sure you piss before the flight and then take a window Big grin  thumbsup 

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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:58 am

I'd go for the window! Much better view and windows are just better. On the other hand, might you spend most of the time flying over the Pacific Ocean? That might make the aisle more appealing in that case.
 
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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:23 am

I have just returned yesterday from a trip to Rio de Janeiro, and had the opportunity to fly on the 747-400 both ways.
The flight CDG-GIG was on one of the new AF 744 (F-GITJ) which had PTV's. I had the window seat, but this was on the rear of the aircraft (54B) so you have only one person seating next to you (this is the area where the 747 starts to get narrow since it is close to the tail section). Therefore you have to bother only one person, and if the flight is not full the airline staff would sometime not seat people there, so you can have a row for yourself. If you are lucky and can get a window seat 53B or 52B you have much more room because a big compartment is built between the window and these two seats. In AF B744 this compartment could be empty (as was the case in my flight) so you can stow there your personal stuff instead in the overhead bin.
The flight GIG-CDG was on one of the oldest 744 (F-GISD) without PTV's and only French in-flight entertainment (yachs). This time I had an aisle seat (22E) in the middle section of seats (where there are 4 seats abreast). This is good if you are not happy with the in-flight entertainment so you can walk down the aisles, but it is a problem if the passengers seating next to you (and you have up to two of them if all seats are occupied) want to get out also.
Bottom line: I recommend window seats if you are seating in exits or at the rear of the plane (52 and onwards) or one of the seats in the aisle if you have no choice (try to avoid the notorious middle seats).

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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Sat Jul 16, 2005 9:54 am

Definitely the Window.

The Window is the best IFE in the daytime you can have regardless of what the airline offers.

Hey, think of it this way:

You get a window. You need to go to the bathroom. The people next to you are sleeping. Well, wake them up (big deal, they should understand since they chose the aisle!), excuse me, excuse me, come back and your all set.

You get an aisle. You fall asleep. Oh wait, your awaken, because the window seat person needs to go to the bathroom. They come back. You go back to sleep. 2 Hours later, wait, the person between you and the window-seat person needs to go to the bathroom. Your awaken again.

So you have the option:

Either be the waker-uper, or be the one who is awoken. Besides, if you take the window, you can rest your pillow on the window and rest your head on the pillow, making it more comfortable.

In a window seat, nobody can bother you. In an aisle, 2 people can bother you.
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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:54 pm

I'd go with an aisle. Have done the window seat on ORD-LHR, MEM-AMS, LAX-NRT, and SFO-SYD. It really does get cold next to that window!!! If your in the aisle, you don't have as much of a cold factor and your also not gonna bother passengers whenever you need to use the washroom.

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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:33 am

Always window!

Quoting An225 (Reply 33):
The flight GIG-CDG was on one of the oldest 744 (F-GISD) without PTV's and only French in-flight entertainment (yachs). This time I had an aisle seat (22E) in the middle section of seats (where there are 4 seats abreast). This is good if you are not happy with the in-flight entertainment so you can walk down the aisles, but it is a problem if the passengers seating next to you (and you have up to two of them if all seats are occupied) want to get out also.

Bad lucky, AF has changed the planes for CDG-GIG for new 744 with NEV concept and probably you get one day in which AF changed the plane (due to some maintenance or other reason).

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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:17 am

Got to go with the aisle. Granted my prefrence may have someting with my severe, unmedicated ADD, but the ocean is going to look the same in hour 9 as it did in hour 1.
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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Tue Jul 19, 2005 6:28 pm

I always go for the window seat. I find that when I am on a plane, I am always staring out the window, thinking that if I don't, I might miss something. I know that that is highly unlikely in your case, but you still never know when that "Kodak Moment" might pop up outta the blue, especially on a pretty day. And I am sure your neighbor won't mind letting you out to go the lavatory. Now if you can rack up frequent flier miles to the bathroom, thats a different story.

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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:56 am

To all:

Thanks for the great advice and comments.

I ultimately opted to change my seat to a window in a row with an empty middle seat. I will now cross my fingers and hope for the best.

I talked to the United Airlines reservation agent who said to try about 24 hours in advance and see if I can get a window seat in the 2X4X2 rows at the very rear of the plane.

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RE: Window Or Aisle On 10-hour Flight

Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:41 am

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 36):
Bad lucky, AF has changed the planes for CDG-GIG for new 744 with NEV concept and probably you get one day in which AF changed the plane (due to some maintenance or other reason).

You are demn right - it was bad luck indeed!
The cabin crew were also bad. I got bad treatment while on dinner (the F/A that had the bread basket yealed at me when I asked for another bun), and when I went up to the upper deck and wanted to take a picture, the F/A in the galley didn't let me do it and gave no reason why.


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