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Best Bush Plane

Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:38 pm

What are your favorite bush planes? Here are mine:


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RE: Best Bush Plane

Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:23 am

The Twotter does so well on rough landing strips  biggrin 

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PS. I was born in Greenland, so I really do LOVE the Twotter. It is really a big working horse.  cheerful 

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RE: Best Bush Plane

Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:37 am

Here in Anchorage & Lake Hood, the DHC-2 Beaver is the top dog, followed by the Cessna 185. But there are PLENTY of different types of bushplanes & floatplanes here in Alaska. We got Otters, Stinsons, Pipers, Taylorcrafts, Beechs, Maules, probably brandnames that I've never heard of, too. This is paradise to me when it comes to floatplanes.  Wink Regards.
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RE: Best Bush Plane

Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:51 am

In South Africa , we're limited to DHC-2's and Twotters. The C208 is mostly used to fly into remote strips especially game lodges here.

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RE: Best Bush Plane

Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:11 am

This is a good Bush plane:

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RE: Best Bush Plane

Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:24 am

Quoting ZRH (Reply 4):
This is a good Bush plane:

Well, quite a number of people probably will suggest that GWD´s politics really look more like this (borrowed from reply #1):
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RE: Best Bush Plane

Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:11 am

Quoting HT (Reply 5):
Well, quite a number of people probably will suggest that GWD´s politics really look more like this (borrowed from reply #1):

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RE: Best Bush Plane

Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:30 pm

My favourite would be a modified Cessna 185 - STOL kit, larger tyres (not necessarily tundra) and an increased-diameter three-blade prop. Noisy, but that thing really takes off. Full load of parachuters, OAT +32 C, grass strip - airborne in 200-something meters  bigthumbsup 

Other than that, does the An-2 qualify?
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RE: Best Bush Plane

Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:04 am

Has the An-2 STOL capability? It could be hard to get such a big plane in short distance in the air with "just" on engine. Even if it is powerful one.

An other question just came to my mind. Did the Russians ever build the An-2 on floats? Or is there a lack of power for a takeoff on water?
 
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RE: Best Bush Plane

Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:53 am

the good old DC-3 is very liked as a bush plane in southamerica (Colombia)

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RE: Best Bush Plane

Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:23 am

Quoting Lionel (Reply 8):
Has the An-2 STOL capability? It could be hard to get such a big plane in short distance in the air with "just" on engine. Even if it is powerful one.

Believe me, the An-2 lifts off like on a breeze. It's very light actually (a steel frame covered with fabric giving it an MTOW a tad over 5000 kg for the early versions), has a 1000 HP engine and that other wing helps a lot - plus it was designed from the outset to provide STOL capability. I've seen some lift off in well under 300 m with a load full of parachuters.

EDIT: wrong number typed.

[Edited 2005-09-16 22:26:11]

[Edited 2005-09-16 22:47:22]
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RE: Best Bush Plane

Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:12 am

Quoting Lionel (Reply 8):
An other question just came to my mind. Did the Russians ever build the An-2 on floats? Or is there a lack of power for a takeoff on water?

I've just done a search through the db and came up with a float Y-5 (Chinese licence built version):

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However, I didn't find any original Russian or Polish built float models.
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RE: Best Bush Plane

Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:12 pm

Don't forget the Pilatus Porter it is called the "Jeep of the air". It has very good STOL abilities and is used off-airport, often in rough mountains, like Nepal for example.

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RE: Best Bush Plane

Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:32 pm

I had the pleasure to fly on a Swiss Air Force Pilatus PC-6 a few years ago. Couldn't believe how fast we were airborne!
 
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RE: Best Bush Plane

Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:15 pm

If asked a few years ago, I would have said the DH2 beaver, or even an otter. I think the supercub has to be mentioned...has to be. Gets in and out of any where, but has a small payload.
Living out in the bush of western Alaska myself and flown on a ton of bushplanes, my favorite hands down is a turbine engine Cessna 208 Caravan on amphib floats. Can land on all the rivers and plenty of the thousands of lakes around here. It is fairly quiet, can hold on some models a full ton of payload.
My one argument against the caravan is that at well over a million dollars it is out of reach for most private pilots.
Why the caravan wins for me, was personal experience with them. Last year after shooting a large moose with a buddy and having a storm move in and sit for several days on us we had to call an airplane to come get some of the gear when it was time to break camp. We could make it back down the river on the boat but not with the weight we had(5 people, a 54 and 37in moose respectively and gear for a week).
When a cub or or 180 wouldnt come close to doing the job, we called in the Caravan. A beaver or otter wouldnt have done it, thier avionics werent up to snuff for the weather. It was a beautiful sound to hear the ride home circling above camp waiting for the smallest of breaks in the clouds to land and get a few of us and gear out of thier.
Which is the other part of what makes a good plane and especially a bush plane, it is the pilot. I would rather fly and land on a sandbar in a mid 50s model piper cub with a grizzled old bushpilot than a fresh pilot in a tricked out beaver or something.
Kudos to Lionel for coming up with the topic. I have thought for awhile about doing one, but you beat me to it. best wishes.
 
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RE: Best Bush Plane

Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:34 pm

I would have to say the Beaver. Here on the west coast, we see them all over the place. I just love the sound of those old radial engines, although the turbine conversion looks pretty sleek too.


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RE: Best Bush Plane

Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:18 am


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DHC Otters and Beavers!

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RE: Best Bush Plane

Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:31 pm

Somehow, IMHO the DHC-2 looks ugly with the turbine conversion. Furthermore the sound of the radial engines is muuuch better.
 
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RE: Best Bush Plane

Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:10 pm

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 14):
Living out in the bush of western Alaska myself and flown on a ton of bushplanes, my favorite hands down is a turbine engine Cessna 208 Caravan on amphib floats.

A Caravan on floats is rather underpowered.

Quoting Jspitfire (Reply 15):
I just love the sound of those old radial engines, although the turbine conversion looks pretty sleek too.



Quoting Lionel (Reply 17):
Somehow, IMHO the DHC-2 looks ugly with the turbine conversion.

There were 60 Beavers built by DHC with PT6s as DHC-2 Beaver Mk.3s - they were not conversions. There have only been a few piston-engined Beavers converted since then, mostly by Viking.

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