cathay747
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Poll: Desire To Travel On The A380?

Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:59 am

I am curious as to everyone's opinion: while I would love to FLY on an A380 if it were a demo type flight (i.e. if it came here on tour), I have no desire to TRAVEL on one once they go into revenue service as I fear they will be a NIGHTMARE at most airports in terms of boarding, deplaning, and bag claim. ESPECIALLY the 2-class versions that EK will operate (even more seats). Your personal views?

NOTE: this is NOT an Airbus vs. Boeing debate, nor do I want it to turn into that, this is solely about the aircraft and its merits or drawbacks.
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RE: Poll: Desire To Travel On The A380?

Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:01 am

Quoting CATHAY747 (Thread starter):
I have no desire to TRAVEL on one once they go into revenue service as I fear they will be a NIGHTMARE at most airports in terms of boarding, deplaning, and bag claim

Hey, as long as my employer is paying the tab, I'll go.  bouncy 

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RE: Poll: Desire To Travel On The A380?

Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:07 am

I've signed up on SQ's website, otherwise I'll spend my hard-earned  dollarsign  on flying on the 777  biggrin 
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RE: Poll: Desire To Travel On The A380?

Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:10 am

Quoting CATHAY747 (Thread starter):
I fear they will be a NIGHTMARE at most airports in terms of boarding, deplaning, and bag claim. ESPECIALLY the 2-class versions that EK will operate (even more seats). Your personal views?

IMO it will be not much different as a 747 flight, only more quitet and the opportunity to play a 18 hole golf game  Smile
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RE: Poll: Desire To Travel On The A380?

Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:13 am

Quoting CATHAY747 (Thread starter):
as I fear they will be a NIGHTMARE at most airports in terms of boarding, deplaning, and bag claim. ESPECIALLY the 2-class versions that EK will operate (even more seats). Your personal views?

Well, does a fully loaded B747 take 4 or 5 times longer to board than an MD80/B737 ? I think you'll agree it doesn't and in fact that is still boarding via one jetway. If the A380 is boarding via 2 jetways, you cannot blindly assume it's going to be a nightmare to board. I guess the designers of the A380 wouldn't agree with you.

Is it really going to have that many more pax than a 747 or 777 ? So why much different from a bag claim standpoint? Don't forget that no more people are flying from A-B ... just more people in one plane. Ever been at JFK bag claim when 10 B767's arrive from Europe?

Hey, just playing devil's advocate.

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RE: Poll: Desire To Travel On The A380?

Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:14 am

Quoting BR076 (Reply 4):
opportunity to play a 18 hole golf game

Yeah, maybe on VS! LOL  laughing 
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RE: Poll: Desire To Travel On The A380?

Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:18 am

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 6):
If the A380 is boarding via 2 jetways, you cannot blindly assume it's going to be a nightmare to board

Valid counter-points, but my concern is the number of airports that do NOT have dual-jetways at many, if any, gates, such as LAX, LHR and even JFK. Now HKG is an exception, as nearly EVERY gate is dual-jetway-equipped, IIRC from my visits there.
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RE: Poll: Desire To Travel On The A380?

Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:18 am

Have to agree with Cathay747, the boarding and deplaning and baggage would be a major pain. And what if you were running behind schedule and trying to connect to another flight....would be a nightmare !!!  Smile And I seriously pity the ground crew that has the first cancelled flight from one of those....OMG !!!
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RE: Poll: Desire To Travel On The A380?

Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:20 am

Quoting Zephyr98 (Reply 9):
And I seriously pity the ground crew that has the first cancelled flight from one of those....OMG !!!

Yeah, especially if JAL or ANA ever order any for DOMESTIC ops...can you imagine??? 1000 seats at 26" pitch!!!! YIKES!!!  wideeyed 
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RE: Poll: Desire To Travel On The A380?

Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:35 am

Quoting CATHAY747 (Reply 8):
Valid counter-points, but my concern is the number of airports that do NOT have dual-jetways at many, if any, gates, such as LAX, LHR and even JFK. Now HKG is an exception, as nearly EVERY gate is dual-jetway-equipped, IIRC from my visits there.

Um, many airports board 744s with one jetway. The second jetway is usually for premium flyers, it just takes out time necessary for premium boarding. It happens, and it's usually ok. While the A380 seats more people, it's not going to be THAT significant a jump. By your logic you should never fly on anything larger than a 737.

As for baggage -- a rush of 3 744 dumping 350 pax each into an airport is going to be a much more significant issue than one A380. Now, if an airport has three or four A380s coming in at the same time, it could indeed be a problem. But then, people like you who believe it'll be hell to travel on one of these things tend to think it won't sell, so you won't have that problem anyway.
 
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RE: Poll: Desire To Travel On The A380?

Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:48 am

Quoting MarshalN (Reply 11):
While the A380 seats more people, it's not going to be THAT significant a jump

CX 744 config #1 = 383 total seats, 172 MORE than A380 standard quoted config (3-class) of 555 seats.

CX 744 config #2 = 345 total seats, 210 MORE than A380 " " " "

You don't consider that a "significant jump"? That's a 744 PLUS either a 752 (2-class) or a 763 (3-class) combined into one gate and bag claim carousel.

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RE: Poll: Desire To Travel On The A380?

Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:11 am

Quoting CATHAY747 (Reply 12):


CX 744 config #1 = 383 total seats, 172 MORE than A380 standard quoted config (3-class) of 555 seats.

Yes, quoted pax is 555, but as far as we know, operators like SQ or QF are going to be running it at significantly lower numbers (something like 420? I don't remember). That, IMO, isn't a huge jump from current numbers.
 
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RE: Poll: Desire To Travel On The A380?

Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:23 am

I am not too worried about boarding or baggage claim - I just wonder how the airports adopt to the higher capacity, i.e. how much larger are the departure lounges? At many airports, they are very cramped with a 744 already, and airports must have much larger lounges available for the A380. I know the airports are working on being equipped for the the A380, but again, the 744 can be a pain at the departure lounges already...

However, I can't wait to fly on the A380 (and the 787), and I also signed up for the SQ newsletter... We will have to wait and see  Wink

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RE: Poll: Desire To Travel On The A380?

Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:27 pm

There's any difference between 550 pax on a A380 and 430 on a 744?

I can wait for the 787 anyway  Big grin
 
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RE: Poll: Desire To Travel On The A380?

Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:26 pm

Quoting Lumberton (Reply 1):
Hey, as long as my employer is paying the tab, I'll go.

Agree. Big grin

I don't have deep pockets. So if the A380 offers lower fares, I'll be happy to board one. Even if it doesn't, I'll still want to fly in it at least once.
 
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RE: Poll: Desire To Travel On The A380?

Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:31 pm

I would really like to fly the A380  Smile
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RE: Poll: Desire To Travel On The A380?

Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:06 am

I would love to travel on it!



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RE: Poll: Desire To Travel On The A380?

Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:16 am

I do look forward to the opportunity to fly on the A380.

I also really look forward to the first time I'm eating an In & Out, double double, animal style at LAX and see one landing right over me.
 
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RE: Poll: Desire To Travel On The A380?

Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:20 am

Quoting USADreamliner (Reply 15):
There's any difference between 550 pax on a A380 and 430 on a 744?

Yes, 120 pax and 2 full decks.

Quoting USADreamliner (Reply 15):
I can wait for the 787 anyway

What's the difference between the 787 and 767? I can wait for it, just another boring twin in our skys.  Wink

I can't wait to fly on the A380 myself.
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RE: Poll: Desire To Travel On The A380?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:07 pm

I'd fly it for the fun of flying it, but I'm not exactly desperate to get on it.

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RE: Poll: Desire To Travel On The A380?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:21 pm

Just saw a documentary on Discovery Channel. At this stage I have no desire at all to fly on the A380 in the distant future.

I prefer SA's slow-climbing A343E's and my favourite seat, 75D, where I can stretch out as much as I like or otherwise a flight on one of the A319's. Most of all I absolutely love seat 16C on the B744's.


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RE: Poll: Desire To Travel On The A380?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:34 pm

I have no real desier to fly the A-380, I'm sticking to the747.
But this is just my opinion

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RE: Poll: Desire To Travel On The A380?

Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:10 am

Thats one monster that I'd rather not fly on. Just thinking about how long it would take to board and deplane, get your baggage, clear customs with that many people on one flight. No thanks.
 
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RE: Poll: Desire To Travel On The A380?

Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:42 pm

Quoting CATHAY747 (Reply 6):
Valid counter-points, but my concern is the number of airports that do NOT have dual-jetways at many, if any, gates, such as LAX, LHR and even JFK. Now HKG is an exception, as nearly EVERY gate is dual-jetway-equipped, IIRC from my visits there.

Most airports that will be served by the A380 have dual jetways. FRA, ICN, SIN, BKK, NRT, CDG, DXB etc. (BTW, will AMS be able to use it's "behind-the-wing jetways on the A380?) LHR, JFK, and LAX are, if anything, an exeption.

The gruelling part will be immigration, I think. Still, can't wait to fly on the A380! Best way to board, IMO, is by mobile staircase on a remote stand! Imagine all the buses required for the A380!

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RE: Poll: Desire To Travel On The A380?

Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:52 pm

I'm planning a trip from the UK to Australia in February 2007. If I can get a good deal on SQ and one of the legs is an A380, then I'm happy, but if CX has a better deal I'll go for that.

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