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Best FF Programme In OneWorld?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:39 am

Which is the Best Frequent flyer programme to join within the OneWorld alliance?

Who do you suggest I join?

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RE: Best FF Programme In OneWorld?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 1:50 am

Well , if you fly alot, BA Executive club is a good one

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RE: Best FF Programme In OneWorld?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 2:11 am

You may need to explain your travel pattern. I'm not a regular flyer (maybe 25 flights per year) but 95% of the time am in Business or First so BA suits me to the ground. I earn Silver status pretty easily which gets me business check-in on any OW flight regardless of class and I also get access to OW J class lounges whenever I fly OW. And to boot I also earn a boatload of BA miles through my Amex card.

One thing to be aware of is you cannot join BA Exec Club on the basis of a cheap economy fare which basically means BA keep away the one trip a year leisure flyers. Like most other OW FFPs now the Exec Club has pitiful earning on cheap economy tickets. eg. if I fly from London-Washington-London in Club World I earn 11,016 BA miles and earn 240 points toward elite status. If you make the same trip but in el cheapo World Chaveller you'd earn 1836 miles (25% miles earned on cheap tickets, minimum of 125 per segment) and no points towards elite status. In short you could fly BA everyday of the year on cheap tickets and still be a Blue....and have a pittance miles balance to boot.

If you are looking to fly on cheap tickets avoid BA and frankly the rest of OW! I haven't looked into it but am pretty sure that cheap economy tickets earn 25% miles in all OW FFPs.
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RE: Best FF Programme In OneWorld?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:42 am

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 2):
I'm not a regular flyer (maybe 25 flights per year)

You think that isn't regular flying  Wow! (  Wink ), I fly what, 2,3 times a year.

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 2):
I earn Silver status pretty easily

Have you ever been Gold ?

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RE: Best FF Programme In OneWorld?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:17 am

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 3):
You think that isn't regular flying

Not really, I'm just used to having a father who has often been away on business for 9months of the year on business in the US/South Africa/Middle East/Far East or who now flies 4-6 flights per week shorthaul.

Personally I consider a frequent flyer as someone who flies over 50 segments per year.


Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 3):
I fly what, 2,3 times a year.

Really? From Quest For £100 Note: BA SOU-EDI-(SOU)BHX (w/ Pics) (by Fbgdavidson Jul 28 2005 in Trip Reports)

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 12):
PP.S- How often do you fly BA in a premier cabin , As for me , about 20 times a year ,2 return longhaul and 18/19/20 odd short-haul return.(Staff travell)

 Silly

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 3):
Have you ever been Gold ?

Nope, but I did a lot more longhaul premium travel when I was 16-17. Did 3 return F trips in a shade over a year with a few more Club World returns and some Club Europe so would have made Gold had I been allowed an Exec Club account!
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RE: Best FF Programme In OneWorld?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:38 pm

Hi there, how's America treating you ?

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 4):
As for me , about 20 times a year ,2 return longhaul and 18/19/20 odd short-haul return.(

I still have the 2 return L/H, But I don't really do S/H anymore perhaps 2 times a year.  Sad
That was when BA were still getting Airbus orders and I used to got to France with my Dad. And I possibly counted going there a one flight ( i.e LGW-TLS one and TLS-LGW as 2)

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 4):
Did 3 return F trips in a shade over a year

Me too , do I get Gold  Wink

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RE: Best FF Programme In OneWorld?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:47 pm

No offence intended, but IMMHO BA's Executive Club is not very "customer-friendly". How many World traveller pax actually buy tickets in Y-, B- or H-class? For starters, that is just for the "privilege" to be able to join Executive Club.

I am a South African Airways Voyager, United Mileage Plus and Qantas FF member and did not need to book such ridiculous high fares just in order to obtain membership to a FF program. With my current FF programs, I have been able to get at least return 4x Trans-Tasman tickets in J-class. One return J-class ticket JNB-SYD-JNB and numerous Y-to J-class upgrades between South Africa and the US.

BA can keep Executive Club for all I care.


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RE: Best FF Programme In OneWorld?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:32 pm

BA executive club is designed for frequent premium traveller, not the economy traveller who uses it for his one flight of the year for a holday.

Quoting SA7700 (Reply 6):
BA can keep Executive Club for all I care.

Good  Wink

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RE: Best FF Programme In OneWorld?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:57 pm

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 7):
BA executive club is designed for frequent premium traveller, not the economy traveller who uses it for his one flight of the year for a holday.

So in a word or two you are stating that BA doesn't really care about economy travellers, their loyalty or money that they spend on BA flights, even when they are not willing to pay Y, B or H-class fares?


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RE: Best FF Programme In OneWorld?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:05 pm

Quoting SA7700 (Reply 8):
So in a word or two you are stating that BA doesn't really care about economy travellers,

Well no, i'm just saying that it was designed with the frequent OR premium traveller in mind, i'm not saying they don't care. If they fly frequently enough, i'm sure they can get a blue or silver card and a free upgrade.

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RE: Best FF Programme In OneWorld?

Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:14 am

Quoting SA7700 (Reply 8):
So in a word or two you are stating that BA doesn't really care about economy travellers, their loyalty or money that they spend on BA flights, even when they are not willing to pay Y, B or H-class fares?

BA don't care. 2 million once a year flyers earning next to no revenue cost more in admin than they are worth to the airline. The efforts of the EC are better focussed on the revenue earners in Club Europe, WT+ and forward...
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RE: Best FF Programme In OneWorld?

Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:14 am

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 10):
BA don't care.

That is the exact same idea I got when my uncle and aunt approached me with all their BA and EI boarding stubs. After some "investigation”, I realized that BA were openly screwing these "country folks" grandly with regards to frequent flyer miles.

My uncle is a GP in Ireland and they travel back and forth between South Africa and Ireland via LHR on BA at least twice or thrice yearly, depending on how long they stay. Meanwhile back at the ranch, they have not even earned the questionable privilege of being members of BA Executive Club.

Customers have a say and in future, they will be traveling on SA or one of its Voyager partners, where you are able to join a FF program without having to pay exorbitant fares while still traveling in cattle class and actually still earn some mileage.


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RE: Best FF Programme In OneWorld?

Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:39 pm

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 2):
You may need to explain your travel pattern. I'm not a regular flyer (maybe 25 flights per year) but 95% of the time am in Business or First so BA suits me to the ground.

I'm guessing the fact that you live in England might also be a reason why BA suits you so well... But I'm glad they do because I love your trip reports.
 
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RE: Best FF Programme In OneWorld?

Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:46 pm

BA do one way Club class upgrades on many european routes from LGW and a few from LHR for about £50, so if you book early you can get a return fare, one way economy, one way Club, for about £150 and entry to the BA Exec Club.
Sometimes LHR-NYC goes on special offer with a one way WT+ upgrade for about £150.
 
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RE: Best FF Programme In OneWorld?

Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:59 pm

I am member of QF's Frequent Flyer Program. I am mostly flying Star Alliance, so don't use the QF card a lot. However, I love QF because miles won't expire, and whenever I flew BA or EI I got my miles credited there (I only flew 3 sectors on QF).

What I liked with QF that they always accepted an e-mail with a scanned boarding pass for miles that hadn't been credited. Most other airlines always want(ed) the original boarding passes, although that seems to have changed as well. In addition, I always got my travellers cheques or exchage with TravelEx, and you got miles even for that. I am not sure if that still exists though...

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RE: Best FF Programme In OneWorld?

Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:29 pm

I use AA and CX right now.

Higher fares and J class goes to CX - pretty easy to get some status: Silver is just 20 segments (J counts as 1.25) and gets you lounge access on CX. After that you can work on Gold which is 40 segments/60K. Diamond is out of reach for me for the time being. CX has very attractive awards for less than 5000mi flights (one way distance), for example LHR-YVR-LHR and HKG-SYD-HKG are only 90K in First.

El cheapo AY goes to my AA account, attracting 125% on all fares as Gold or 200% as Platinum. Platinum is ridiculously easy to get via the Challenge - 10K Q points in 3 months.
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RE: Best FF Programme In OneWorld?

Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:52 am

No idea which one is the best, but I knopw that the fact that flying BA only accounts me for 25% in my Lan Pass account, and IB only 30%, makes me think that OW sucks...

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RE: Best FF Programme In OneWorld?

Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:49 pm

Reported Today oneworldTM has been named the world's leading airline alliance for the third year running in the World's Travel Awards, which describes itself as the most comprehensive award scheme for the industry - with its member airlines taking more accolades than members of the other groupings combined.

http://www.oneworld.com/pressroom/releases/details.cfm?ObjectID=6237
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RE: Best FF Programme In OneWorld?

Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:55 pm

Interesting. I just e-mailed them and told them where they'd made a mistake and it was fixed pretty quickly.

I'm a member of QF, and it's a pretty good programme. QF bronze is nothing, and it's what you get initially. Good place to throw your credit card points and what not.

To get to Silver (OW Ruby), you need to do quite a few Economy flights, however if you're doing Sydney to London and back, you almost have enough for the next status.

I booked a DONE4 around-the-world ticket, and I was silver about 1/4 the way through because you get a lot of status credits for Business Class.

Once I was half way through the ticket, I am QF Gold, OW Sapphire. This is good as I get lounge access regardless of the class I am flying, can take a guest into the lounges in Australia even if they're not flying. Outside of Australia, I can invite someone as long as they're flying with me.

I am Gold right through to December 2006, and I need to requalify next year, which the rest of the ticket will cover.

Also, I was able to book a SYD-LAX in Y with no trouble using points.

I'd love to go up to QF Platinum, because you then have lounge access - even when you are not flying! I could go to the Qantas Club lounges and just drink myself silly and save myself all sorts of money. You also get 100% status points - so you're doubled for every sector. Quite nice indeed!

The only thing is, you need to do 4 sectors on QF annually to get your higher status. So if you're living in Europe and do all your sectors on OW airlines, you're at a disadvantage, but I think that's logical anyway.

I've not look at other FF programmes except for Aer Lingus, which is really quite crap. You need to do a certain amount of flying in a 12 month period to even qualify for a card of some kind, which I think is harsh.

So yeah, the QF programme is quite good, as far as I'm concerned.

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