wrighbrothers
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What Would You Give Up For A Cheap Ticket?

Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:51 am

Hello everyone  Smile
I was wondering, what would people give up for a cheap LONG HAUL ticket.
1) Think of this.

SAY Ryanair were starting long haul flights with a 757. Would you put up with ALL of these things for a £150 ticket ?

28in leg room.
No head/leg/foot rests.
No IFE at all ( no radio, big screens , nothing).
All catering would have to be payed for ( including drinks).
No duty free.
a 3 seating abreast config.
No hot food.
No window shades/blinds.
No recline.
No reading lights.
No free things ( i.e - pre flight drinks and snacks, kids stuff etc.)
Single class interior ( not that bad I know).
a departure from STN at 4:00 am.
A routing of..
STN-DUB-YHZ-SAN-FLL-AMA-CMH-DUB-STN ?

2) What WOULD you give up for a cheap flight ?

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RE: What Would You Give Up For A Cheap Ticket?

Mon Dec 12, 2005 1:01 am

I would be willing to give up all said amenities, barring the ridiculous itinerary, since I simply couldn't handle so many crazy stops. as long as the flight was truly "cheap", but not expensive, and merely having the services taken away under the guise of some cheap fares (*cough* US Majors *cough*)
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RE: What Would You Give Up For A Cheap Ticket?

Mon Dec 12, 2005 1:06 am

I would not be willing to do any of those things except duty free (find it pointless), and as long as I know in advance I'm not paying for food and drink and they offer food worth buying, that's fine too.
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RE: What Would You Give Up For A Cheap Ticket?

Mon Dec 12, 2005 1:11 am

If I knew upfront and in advance not to expect anything on your list, I would be ok. I would not budge on punctuality, however.
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RE: What Would You Give Up For A Cheap Ticket?

Mon Dec 12, 2005 1:27 am

Quoting Scalebuilder (Reply 3):
If I knew upfront and in advance not to expect anything on your list, I would be ok.

you'd sit in a 28" pitch, no headrest, no recline seat for 24 hours as long as you knew in advance?

Before you commit to that, try it for 10...
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RE: What Would You Give Up For A Cheap Ticket?

Mon Dec 12, 2005 1:48 am

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Thread starter):
28in leg room.
28in leg room.
No recline.

Not sure what the pitch is currently, but 2 1/2 hrs STN-MJV was about the most I could stand with the non recline.

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Thread starter):
No IFE at all ( no radio, big screens , nothing).

They had IFE for hire with a limited selection of DVDs? Well, at least they did when I flew them back in Jan.
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RE: What Would You Give Up For A Cheap Ticket?

Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:05 am

Surely this question is the same as asking "How rich are you?"

Everyone would like to travel first class but very few can actually afford to. The rest of us then have to make a compromise between cost and amenities.

Personally I usually fly WT+ on BA because I can afford to and I am happy with the price for the comfort I get, but when I first starting working (16 years ago) and wasn't earning very much I was flying in economy and looking for the cheapest possible fares without much thought to the level of service I would be getting.
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RE: What Would You Give Up For A Cheap Ticket?

Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:09 am

Quoting Go3Team (Reply 5):
They had IFE for hire with a limited selection of DVDs? Well, at least they did when I flew them back in Jan.

If I remember correctly, The trail was unsuccessful, and they stopped it, but Easy Jet tried it, and I think it's now on use on most flights ( over 2 hours I think)

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RE: What Would You Give Up For A Cheap Ticket?

Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:33 am

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Thread starter):
1. 28in leg room.
2. No head/leg/foot rests.
3. No IFE at all ( no radio, big screens , nothing).
4. All catering would have to be payed for ( including drinks).
5. No duty free.
6. a 3 seating abreast config.
7. No hot food.
8. No window shades/blinds.
9. No recline.
10. No reading lights.
11. No free things ( i.e - pre flight drinks and snacks, kids stuff etc.)
12. Single class interior ( not that bad I know).
13. a departure from STN at 4:00 am.

1. Would be prepared to give up an inch or 2. Most QF Y class are now 30-31 inches so what's the difference.

2. u're talking Y class right ? Don't ever remember leg/foot rests in Y & even in C, don't do anything unless youy're about 4 feet tall !!!

3. IFE hasn't worked or hasn't worked on so many trans-Pacific flights I've ben on over the last 12 months (both QF & UA) that feel the way for airlines to go is to rent or sell (duty free) portable DVD players. They're getting so cheap. Saw one the other day for AUD$149 (~USD$109) which included 10% GST & probably some duty. If a large airline approached a manufacturer & said they wanted thousands, they'd probably get them for almost nothing !!!

When they break - throw them away & use a new one. It's a throw away world & makes more sense than what sems like very expensive IFE systems. (nothing worse than a faulty IFE system holding up departure of large expensive bus)!!!

4. On a long flight eg. over say 4 hours, u have to get something basic, even bread & water (sandwiches & bottles of water - not airline water(don't want to kill pax)). The longer the flight the more catering has to be included. Ie. for a long flight from OZ, for breakfast, maybe minimum cereal, fruit (apple) & cup of tea & water.

5. In flight duty free in most cases seems more expensive with little choice than airport duty free (I guess though captive market) This is a small profit centre for airlines/crew on charters, so would not be cut out.

6. 3-3 ? Again r u talking Y ??? or do u mean 3-3-3 in a 332 like Air Transat instead of normal 2-4-2 or 2-4-2 in high density 767?

7. light meals are actually better on long haul anyway & this means u can keep it basic & low cost

8, 9 & 10. Most aircraft has these. (only some brand new Ryanair don't I believe)

11. apart from kids stuff, who gives these in Y?

12. yeh

13. Australians are used to departing at any time. BNE for example has departures almost 24 hours a day. Not a lot ot 0300, but plenty until 0030 & then ramp up again at 0500.
 
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RE: What Would You Give Up For A Cheap Ticket?

Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:52 am

Quoting Simpilicity (Reply 8):
u're talking Y class right ?

Yes, I'm talking a single class aircraft ( Y only)

Quoting Simpilicity (Reply 8):
3-3 ? Again r u talking Y ??? or do u mean 3-3-3 in a 332 like Air Transat instead of normal 2-4-2 or 2-4-2 in high density 767?

Well, the aircraft I was talking about is a 757, whic is a single isle so far as I know. so the cabin lay out would be 3-3

Quoting Simpilicity (Reply 8):
(don't want to kill pax)

You sure about that  Wink

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RE: What Would You Give Up For A Cheap Ticket?

Tue Dec 13, 2005 2:04 am

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Thread starter):
All catering would have to be payed for ( including drinks).

Had to pay extra if you wanted in flight meals on a flight from Gatwick to Cuba on My travel
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RE: What Would You Give Up For A Cheap Ticket?

Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:10 am

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 9):
Yes, I'm talking a single class aircraft ( Y only)

Uh? So what single aisle commercial aircraft don't have 3-3 seating except regionals ????

How is sitting in 3-3 seats giving up anything then?
 
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RE: What Would You Give Up For A Cheap Ticket?

Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:17 am

Quoting Simpilicity (Reply 8):
Would be prepared to give up an inch or 2. Most QF Y class are now 30-31 inches so what's the difference.

I think it is a HUGE difference! NZ has 34" on the B744 and SQ on the B777 - and you REALLY feel the difference to the standard 31/32" on most airlines. Going below 31 on a long haul would kill me - and I am not even that tall (5'10")...

I can easily do without all the amenities and services. I can bring my own food (or have a bite at one or a few of the many stops), bring my own iPod, book, laptop, etc... No problem at all for a good fare.

The many stops are appealing to me if I have time. When I am going for business it would be a bit of a long stretch (just took me 50 hours to get from AKL to ADB, arriving at 10pm at the hotel, and giving a keynote next morning - that was a bit too much, hehe). But if I were on holiday, or had a day or two before work at the destination, I'd love to stop a few times.

The one thing you didn't mention, but which became quite important to me now, are frequent flyer miles. Ryanair doesn't have those, and a concept like the one you proposed will most likely not offer that either...

Overall, it really boils down to HOW MUCH cheaper it is. For 100 quid more I'd certainly go for a "mainstream" airline...

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RE: What Would You Give Up For A Cheap Ticket?

Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:18 am

Quoting Simpilicity (Reply 11):
How is sitting in 3-3 seats giving up anything then?

I didn't say it was giving up anything, I was just saying that was the cabin layout.

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RE: What Would You Give Up For A Cheap Ticket?

Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:02 am

In 1993, i bought a ticket from BEY to SCL with SU for (310$) because it was very cheap giving up everything for money(AF1200$) .The routing was BEY-SVO onboard an IL-85 with ten hours transfer in SVO, than i board an IL-62 from SVO to SCL with a stop in LUX-SNN-MIA.But for my surprise,this flight has became my best ever.The service onboard was far better than expected and the IL-62 was very comfortable
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RE: What Would You Give Up For A Cheap Ticket?

Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:56 am

I would forgo the following off your list.

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Thread starter):
Single class interior ( not that bad I know).
a departure from STN at 4:00 am.
A routing of..
STN-DUB-YHZ-SAN-FLL-AMA-CMH-DUB-STN ?
No reading lights.
No free things ( i.e - pre flight drinks and snacks, kids stuff etc.)
No IFE at all ( no radio, big screens , nothing).

In general I'd rather just fly on NZ staff tickets and would pay for a seat on one of the many airlines that I deem has acceptable seat pitch and service.
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