AirWillie6475
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Age Of Aircraft

Sat Jan 21, 2006 2:31 am

Would you be afraid to fly in a plane that is made in the 60s or the 70s? Such as a DC9 or a 742? Do you care how old a plane is?
 
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RE: Age Of Aircraft

Sat Jan 21, 2006 2:35 am

I don't really mind about the age, I don't usually find out to be honest. If the plane looked in very bad condition though I would consider maybe getting a different flight.
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RE: Age Of Aircraft

Sat Jan 21, 2006 5:22 am

I have nothing against flying in an old plane as long as it has been well taken care of and properly maintained. I would rather fly in a impeccably maintained 731 or 732 than one that looks like its been to hell and back, although thats not a very sound argument because I have seen nearly new planes that look like they have been to hell and back. But generally, I don't really mind old planes.
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RE: Age Of Aircraft

Sat Jan 21, 2006 5:50 am

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I'd be more nervous of flying a new 777 or A340 that looks like crap inside and out than flying a Dc-9 that looks brand new and can clearly see maintained to the highest standard

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RE: Age Of Aircraft

Sat Jan 21, 2006 6:38 am

I don't mind old vs. new plane, I like the type of plane and the airline more.
Just a fun fact, after retiring their 737-200s, WestJet now operates the youngest fleet in North America.
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RE: Age Of Aircraft

Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:28 am

Quoting NHGrafx (Reply 2):
I have nothing against flying in an old plane as long as it has been well taken care of and properly maintained

That's exactly how i feel.
 
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RE: Age Of Aircraft

Sun Jan 22, 2006 7:39 pm

The older the aircraft the better I'd say. To be honest I don't think about how airworthy the aircraft is because it has to pass a certain degree of safety before it fly's anyway. Nowadays there aren't too many old aircraft operating. Back in August I flew on a Boeing 747-200 (TF-ABA) which is now out of service, I feel kinda honoured to be one of the last groups of passengers to have flown on this beautiful bird.


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RE: Age Of Aircraft

Mon Jan 23, 2006 4:11 am

I'll say one thing, a 30yr old Tristar is more reliable than when an A330 gets up to 20yrs. IMHO
 
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RE: Age Of Aircraft

Mon Jan 23, 2006 4:59 am

Quoting AirWillie6475 (Thread starter):
Such as a DC9 or a 742? Do you care how old a plane is?

Hm...is this post directly targeting NW? The only US airline that still flies DC9s and 742s?  Smile
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RE: Age Of Aircraft

Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:41 am

The older, the better. 20+ years is fine.
The more beat up, the better. Peeling paint and a rough, beaten cabin don't bother me at all.

I find flights to be more of a fun adventure on rickety, old airplanes! Especially when things go wrong with them!

Quoting ReidYYZ (Reply 7):
I'll say one thing, a 30yr old Tristar is more reliable than when an A330 gets up to 20yrs. IMHO

I agree. And if I could have a choice for a flight on a 30 year old L-1011, B-747, B-727 or DC-9 instead of a five year old airplane, the old airplane is the winner.



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RE: Age Of Aircraft

Fri Jan 27, 2006 5:29 pm

I flew in a 62 year-old DC3 last week, so I guess the answer is no.
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RE: Age Of Aircraft

Sat Jan 28, 2006 6:57 pm

I have no problem just as long as it is maintained.Plus I have flown in several P-51's, DC-3's,B-17 and a B-24.  Smile
 
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RE: Age Of Aircraft

Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:40 pm

Quoting Nonfirm (Reply 11):
have no problem just as long as it is maintained.

And again, before I flew on these two planes last week, I checked their age from the list I brought with me and funny enough I felt more comfortable on a 2 year old 777, than a 16 year old 747.


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RE: Age Of Aircraft

Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:52 am

Quoting TK787 (Reply 12):
I felt more comfortable on a 2 year old 777, than a 16 year old 747.

is that because you felt less could go wrong with the two year old plane.
 
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RE: Age Of Aircraft

Sun Jan 29, 2006 9:42 am

Quoting Nonfirm (Reply 13):
is that because you felt less could go wrong with the two year old plane.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the sweet 16, but this 777 still had that brand new smell, oh what am I trying to say, yeah you are right. I felt safer in a newer plane. Go figure that!
 
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RE: Age Of Aircraft

Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:48 pm

Here's my favorite NW DC9. I've flown it more than any other airliner. It doesn't bother me that it's over 38 years old.


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RE: Age Of Aircraft

Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:56 pm

I fly 732s and 727s regularly, until recently SAA were still operating 742s, my wife is a f/a on DC-4s and DC-3s, as long as they are properly maintained age is not a factor for me.
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RE: Age Of Aircraft

Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:20 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 14):
I felt safer in a newer plane

I understand completely.
 
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RE: Age Of Aircraft

Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:39 pm

Old planes didn't get old by being unsafe.
I would rather fly a 5-20 year old design that has all the kinks worked out, and of course properly maintained.
 
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RE: Age Of Aircraft

Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:15 pm

Quoting AirWillie6475 (Thread starter):
Would you be afraid to fly in a plane that is made in the 60s or the 70s? Such as a DC9 or a 742? Do you care how old a plane is?

Absolutely I care....I actively try and get on the older types. They won't be around forever you know...
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RE: Age Of Aircraft

Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:01 am

Flew on these two aircraft before Christmas:


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1 Time DC-9-32, ZS-NRB. Manufactured on 28th October 1970.

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RE: Age Of Aircraft

Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:51 am

Quoting Thepilot (Reply 4):
after retiring their 737-200s, WestJet now operates the youngest fleet in North America.

you gotta love WestJet!!!
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RE: Age Of Aircraft

Mon Feb 06, 2006 11:09 am

I'll fly a DC-3/4/6 any day if it's been maintained. This year is the 70th birthday of the DC-3 and there are still plenty flying, most still operating in Part 135 or 121 service in different places. They'll probably still be flying well after the 767s and similar types have been relegated to museums or the scrap heap.
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RE: Age Of Aircraft

Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:14 am

The older the better. Give me a early born jet any day.

The newer planes, I'd rather wait with till they get older once in the furure.

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RE: Age Of Aircraft

Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:15 am

Quoting Skydrol (Reply 9):
I find flights to be more of a fun adventure on rickety, old airplanes! Especially when things go wrong with them!

Amen to that my friend. I flew from CUN-Merida in an Aerocarribe DC-9 and once we got on the runway and the Capt. applied full power, the airframe began to shake and ricket. It continued to do that inflight and when we were on approach, the right engine cut and I could feel the airplane buffet due to the power loss. Then the Capt. appiled almost full in the left and we made it down with fire trucks and the calvary following us all the way to the gate.  bigthumbsup 

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RE: Age Of Aircraft

Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:46 am

You might find that this topic "How Is An Aircraft's Safety Tested?" is very helpful to you. You can find it under civil aviation archived. Many of these same things are discussed, but you will find some very interesting information about older a/c and how they are rated, tested, and about their reliability.

Hope this helps!

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