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Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:57 am

Amirs and I have been starting threads about the longest commercial non-stop flights. So far we have the 767-200ER and the 777-200ER. Lets expand the parameters! What is the longest scheduled commercial flight on the A332, A333 or the A342/3? (the 500's is EWR-SIN and I think the 600's is LAX-BKK). If you know the longest flight for any other widebody such as the 763, 764, 773, or 744 please feel free to post as well.
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:01 am

I would guess SIN-LAX or SIN-ERW on SQ with the A345.

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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:13 am

SIN-EWR is the longest scheduled commercial flight at the moment. I am hoping that we can look into longest flight by type, not overall.
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:17 am

For the 772ER, the current longest flight is EWR-HKG, operated by CO.
 
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:31 am

I am guessing the longest flight for the 744 is UA LAXSYD.
 
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:33 am

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 4):
I am guessing the longest flight for the 744 is UA LAXSYD.

LAXMEL is considerably longer, was operated by UA (I flew it), and is currently operated by QF.
 
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:34 am

Quoting Bomber996 (Reply 1):
I would guess SIN-LAX or SIN-ERW on SQ with the A345.

It's SIN-EWR
 
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:40 am

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 5):
LAXMEL is considerably longer, was operated by UA (I flew it), and is currently operated by QF.

Duh! Thank you. Forgot about that one.
 
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:52 am

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 7):
LAXMEL is considerably longer, was operated by UA (I flew it), and is currently operated by QF.

How many miles that, and how long is the flight?
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:54 am

A332: CDG-NRT - AF operated in summer (not 100% sure... at least it was some months ago)
A333: ICN-PRG (not 100% sure... at least it was some months ago)
A345: SIN-ER
A346: HKG-JFK

B744: ORD-HKG
B744ER: MEL-LAX
B772ER: EWR-HKG

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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:59 am

Quoting Thepilot (Thread starter):
Amirs and I have been starting threads about the longest commercial non-stop flights.

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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:19 am

A346 - BKK-JFK on TG

Over an hour longer than HGK-JFK
 
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:31 am

There previous posts for all or most A/C, we've talked about 320,321,319, 767-300ER, 767-200ER, 330-300, 340-300 and so on.. AC longest flight would be YYZ to HKG on A340-500
 
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:35 am

Quoting Prosap (Reply 11):
A346 - BKK-JFK on TG

Isn't that flight usually an A345? I know it can be substituted for one, but I don't think that it is scheduled for an A346...
 
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:38 am

Quoting A360 (Reply 9):
A332: CDG-NRT - AF operated in summer (not 100% sure... at least it was some months ago)
A333: ICN-PRG (not 100% sure... at least it was some months ago)

I saw an CX A330 (though not sure which variant) landing at LHR while I was visiting Windsor Castle. I would think that is a fair piece to fly.
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:44 am

Added miles to the data above.

A332: CDG-NRT, 6048 miles
A333: ICN-PRG, 5131 miles
A345: SIN-EWR, 9535 miles
A346: BKK-JFK, 8660 miles

B744: ORD-HKG, 7794 miles
B744ER: MEL-LAX, 7921 miles
B772ER: EWR-HKG, 8065 miles
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:46 am

LB VVI/MAD/VVI on 767-300ER could be added on this list?
 
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:50 am

whats the longest A343 flight??
 
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:20 pm

I think AC just added YYZ-PVG or PEK with the A343. 6153nm for PVG and 5716nm for PEK if this is true.

Quoting Bjornstrom (Reply 15):
A332: CDG-NRT, 6048 miles
A333: ICN-PRG, 5131 miles
A345: SIN-EWR, 9535 miles
A346: BKK-JFK, 8660 miles

B744: ORD-HKG, 7794 miles
B744ER: MEL-LAX, 7921 miles
B772ER: EWR-HKG, 8065 miles

Is this in nautical miles? Let's try and make sure our distances are in nautical miles. To plot routes, simply go to http://gc.kls2.com/
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:54 pm

When QF start operating, they will beat the A333 distance above with SYD-PEK at 5552 nm.

Is there anyone else out there with an A333 going further?
 
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 1:22 pm

Quoting Aussieindc (Reply 19):
When QF start operating, they will beat the A333 distance above with SYD-PEK at 5552 nm.

Doubtful. That distance is very much touching the edge of the A333's range, and QF doesn't have high gross weight versions, as those don't even exist for the GE engine A333.

As for longest route for the 767-300ER, my money is on SVO-LAX in a polar routing. Almost 6,000 nm distance.
 
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:07 pm

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 20):

Doubtful. That distance is very much touching the edge of the A333's range, and QF doesn't have high gross weight versions, as those don't even exist for the GE engine A333.

According to a.net, the A333's max range is 5500nm, and the proposed trip is 4824nm, so it might work.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 20):
As for longest route for the 767-300ER, my money is on SVO-LAX in a polar routing. Almost 6,000 nm distance.

This is 5281nm, which is near the end of its range.

Let's see if I can total this up...
747-400(ER?)- QF LAX-MEL (6883nm)
777-200ER- CO EWR-HKG (7009nm)
777-300ER-?
767-400-?
767-300ER- SU LAX-SVO (5281nm)
767-200ER- LY TLV-MIA (5738nm)
A330-300-(proposed) QF SYD-PEK (4824nm) or CX HKG-LHR (5209nm)
A330-200- AF CDG-NRT (5256nm)
A340-300- AC YYZ-PEK? (5716nm)
A340-200-?
A340-500- SQ EWR-SIN (duh) (8285nm)
A340-600- CX JFK-HKG (7014nm)
Please feel free to correct/edit this list. This is great, keep them coming!
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:47 pm

How about the:

DC-10
MD-11
L-1011
Il-86
A310
A300

All of these aircraft are still in use on long-haul flights around the world. Let's not ignore them.
 
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:03 pm

Quoting 123 (Reply 16):
LB VVI/MAD/VVI on 767-300ER could be added on this list?

Aeroflot's LAX-SVO is, IIRC, the longest 763 flight, at 6078mi. Air Canada uses 763s on YYZ-TLV which is also longer, at 5789mi. El Al will also use 763ERs on YYZ-TLV this summer when the 762ERs move to MIA-TLV (6603mi, longest 762ER route) Santa Cruz-Madrid is 5532mi.
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:35 pm

Quoting Thepilot (Thread starter):
I think the 600's is LAX-BKK



Quoting Prosap (Reply 11):
A346 - BKK-JFK on TG

Both of those routes use the A345

LAX-MEL is now exclusively served by the 744ER barring some freak problem at QF, but was innagurated and operated by both QF and UA with the 744A. The longest route ever served on a scheduled basis by any 744 was HKG-JFK, served by both UA and CX within the last decade.
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 5:14 pm

Quoting Thepilot (Reply 21):
This is 5281nm, which is near the end of its range.

The 767-300ER's range is actually 6105 nm if I'm not mistaken, so 5281 nm is well within the 767's range. The only issue is that the routing could make it longer than it actually is.

Besides, the actual distance of the flight is not always accurate, as we have to factor in the variing departure and arrival procedures used, along with the different waypoints and all that.

[Edited 2006-01-18 09:15:34]
 
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 5:27 pm

Quoting Trex8 (Reply 17):
whats the longest A343 flight??

Possibly LA's SCL-AKL v.v flight?

Quoting Thepilot (Reply 21):
A340-200-?

Possibly AR's EZE-AKL v.v flight?
 
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:31 pm

If the SYD-PEK route does not work on the 333, the currently longest flight on the 333 is BOM-SYD non-stop, SYD-BOM makes a technical stop at Darwin.

And for the 747-400 is not ORD-HKG on UA longer or similar to MEL-LAX??

Please correct me if i am wrong.

The CX 330 flight to LHR was probably a one off flight, as CX only operate 744s and 343s on that route.

77W---AF CDG-NRT and CDG-SIN,, BKK-LHR [EVA]

The 346 by TG on the BKK-JFK sector makes a technical stop at KIX
 
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:10 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 23):
El Al will also use 763ERs on YYZ-TLV this summer when the 762ERs move to MIA-TLV

LY 767-300 will also be used on TLV - MIA route once the second one joins the fleet.
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:18 pm

Quoting Thepilot (Reply 21):
777-300ER-?

Pretty sure it's AF's CDG-SCL flight = 7245 miles
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:51 pm

Quoting Thepilot (Reply 18):
Let's try and make sure our distances are in nautical miles



Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 29):
Pretty sure it's AF's CDG-SCL flight = 7245 miles

I agree with Thepilot, lets keep it in nm miles.

CDG - SCl, is 6291 nm.
 
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:55 pm

Quoting Dalb777 (Reply 8):
Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 7):LAXMEL is considerably longer, was operated by UA (I flew it), and is currently operated by QF.
How many miles that, and how long is the flight?

7921mi,6883nm, LAX-MEL sector roughly 15 1/2 hours, shorter the other way. Did this flight once with UA when they flew direct still in Feb 2001
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:03 pm

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 20):
Doubtful. That distance is very much touching the edge of the A333's range, and QF doesn't have high gross weight versions, as those don't even exist for the GE engine A333.

tell that to Qatar who have 233K 80E1-A4B engined(same thrust as the previously "higher thrust" -A3), granted they may not be X versions with the higher fuel tankage
 
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:04 pm

Did SA fly JNB - JFK or JNB - ATL nonstop in the past?
I am pretty sure the A346 have the range for it.
 
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:44 pm

Quoting Chrisrad (Reply 31):
7921mi,6883nm, LAX-MEL sector roughly 15 1/2 hours, shorter the other way. Did this flight once with UA when they flew direct still in Feb 2001

LAX/MEL must almost fly over SYD. Straight line from LAX to MEL goes straight over SYD. SYD/MEL is usually just under an hour flying time.

Obviously, aircraft don't fly in a straight line or striaght on top of SYD.
 
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:16 am

Quoting Thepilot (Reply 21):
A340-300- AC YYZ-PEK? (5716nm)

IB or LA flights from MAD to SCL = 6637 miles (10682 Kms); SCL-AKL in the second position with 6021 miles (9690 Kms)

Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 26):
Quoting Trex8 (Reply 17):
whats the longest A343 flight??

Possibly LA's SCL-AKL v.v flight?

Quoting Thepilot (Reply 21):
A340-200-?

Possibly AR's EZE-AKL v.v flight?

AR flight from BUE to BCN = 6472 miles (10416 Kms); BUE-AKL inthe second position, too with 6457 miles (10391 Kms)
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:42 am

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 35):
AR flight from BUE to BCN = 6472 miles (10416 Kms); BUE-AKL inthe second position, too with 6457 miles (10391 Kms)

AR's flights to BCN and to AKL are only second and third, respectively, to EZE-FCO, which is 6901 miles (11113kms). The flight is flown with an A340-200.

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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:34 am

does anyone know what the actual mileage that CI fly on their TPE-FRA routes? By GC its only low 5100nm but if they were routing via India or Siberia and not over China which they could do only recently, it could be over 6000nm.Its a good 14hr flight.
IIRC they did do TPE-JFK eastbound, 6700nm, non stop initially before giving up and stopping at ANC both ways.
 
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:01 am

QF 330-300 BOM-SYD 5482 Nautical Miles, SYD-BOM is done with a technical stop at DRW which is 4507 miles

Therefore longest route on the Airbus 330-300 is BOM-SYD.

Also UA operates the 747-400 on ORD-HKG which is 7009 NM longer than MEL-LAX

Hope that helps
 
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:11 am

I think the UA ORD-HKG is the longest for the 744 and it really goes to the limits of the plane but correct me if im wrong.


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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:15 am

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 29):
Pretty sure it's AF's CDG-SCL flight = 7245 miles

Don't they use an A340-313X for this one?

When FRA used to be non-stop from EZE, EZE-FRA was with either the 747-400 or the A340-600, then length of EZE-FRA was 7132 mi.

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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:35 am

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 35):
Quoting Thepilot (Reply 21):
A340-300- AC YYZ-PEK? (5716nm)

IB or LA flights from MAD to SCL = 6637 miles (10682 Kms); SCL-AKL in the second position with 6021 miles (9690 Kms)

Well, the AC YYZ-PEK route is longer than that, as the above number is measured in nautical miles, and yours by "ordinary" miles. In fact, China Eastern PVG-LAX beats SCL-AKL, with 6485 miles (5635nm).
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:00 am

How about JFK-JNB on 744??? its about 7969 miles
 
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:23 am

Quoting BOSGRU (Reply 42):
How about JFK-JNB on 744??? its about 7969 miles

It used to be the second longest flight in the world back a few years (only behind ATL-JNB)

Now, SAA operates the JFK flight via DKR (A343), and the ATL flight via SID (A346) though, in both directions.
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:24 am

For the 744 I would have to say its LAX-SYD which QF and UA operate 1 flight non-stop.

I have a friend who recently flew QF LAX-SYD non-stop.
 
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:28 am

Some of you have posted Continental flying B772ER from EWR - HKG with 8,000nm.

My question is how is that possible when Boeing states the 772ER having a max range of 7,730nm??

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/777family/pf/pf_200product.html
 
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:42 am

A342 ORD to OJAI on RJA
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:10 am

Quoting Dalb777 (Reply 8):

How many miles that, and how long is the flight?

If I recall correctly, when I flew LAX-MEL, block time was 15:30 and flight time was just over 15 hours westbound.
 
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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:27 am

Quoting Ahdharia (Reply 45):
Some of you have posted Continental flying B772ER from EWR - HKG with 8,000nm.

My question is how is that possible when Boeing states the 772ER having a max range of 7,730nm??

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/777....html

EWR-HKG is 7009nm long.
That's 8065 mi and 12980 km.

nm = nautical miles (used in aviation for example). Around 1.852 km
mi = stature miles (used in US roads for example). Around 1.609 km


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RE: Longest Scheduled Flight (Widebodies)

Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:29 am

Seems like we are in need of another total up. So here goes...

747-400(ER?)- SA ATL-JNB (7334nm) QF LAX-MEL (6883nm)
777-200ER- CO EWR-HKG (7009nm)
777-300ER- AF CDG-SCL (6291nm)
767-400-?
767-300ER- SU LAX-SVO (5281nm)
767-200ER- LY TLV-MIA (5738nm)
A330-300- QF BOM-SYD (5482nm)
A330-200- AF CDG-NRT (5256nm)
A340-300- AC YYZ-PEK? (5716nm)
A340-200- AR AKL-EZE (5580nm)
A340-500- SQ EWR-SIN (duh) (8285nm)
A340-600- CX JFK-HKG (7014nm)
DC-10-?
MD-11-?
L-1011-?
Il-86-?
A310-?
A300-?

All of these distances are off the Great Circle mapper http://gc.kls2.com/
PLEASE edit this if there is anything wrong or new info comes about. Please remember to post distances in nautical miles. The conversion factor is 1.15075. Or multiply statue miles by .86899 to get nautical. For kilometers, multiply nautical by 1.852 to get kilometers. Conversely, multiply .53996 to get nautical from kilometers. Sorry if I sound condescending, but it would be easier for all of us.

Quoting AeroTycoon (Reply 22):
How about the:

DC-10
MD-11
L-1011
Il-86
A310
A300

I haven't the foggiest idea about the longest flights on these, but by all means, post them. Already added them to the list.

[Edited 2006-01-19 00:34:09]
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