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Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:13 am

Related to another to another topic...

What's the shortest (flying time) regularly scheduled commercial route with HEAVY aircraft?

(Short routes with tiny props being easy to come by... Am curious about a short route with one of the big boys...)
 
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:18 am

I'm not sure if it's the shortest, but Delta runs ATL-JAX with 767's, and thats 270 miles. I've been on the flight several times. I think the shortest was 47 minutes of flight time.
 
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:19 am

I'm sure this isn't the shortest one, but SQ SIN-Jakarta with the A345 is quite short for a plane that size.
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:58 am

LY does TLV-LCA (183 nm) sometimes with 762, and even with 744s (And I'm talking about scheduled)
 
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:02 am

BA sometimes put a 777 on MAN-LGW (153nm)

Syrianair used to run the 747SP between MAN and LHR (131nm)
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:06 am

KLM's AMS-LHR route with the 767 (and A332) is pretty short as well!  Wink

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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:10 am

Varig flies GRU-GIG as part of its international flights with MD11 and 777. It is quite short too.
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:54 am

Iberia flies its A340-300s and A340-600s on the Puente Aero from MAD to BCN.
Air Plus Comet also flies the 747-200 regulary on its MAD-BCN route.
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:02 am

FRA-MUC
FRA-TXL
FRA-HAM

on LH A300-600

or DL did before JFK-BOS with the B767-300
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:20 am

UA has daily OGG-KOA service on a 772. Sure, it's a part of the ORD-OGG-KOA-ORD flight but it's still a short hop.
 
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:22 am

DUB-SNN (& v.v.) on EI with their A330's, will dig up the mileage, but it's about 20-25mins flying time.
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:56 am

How about JL's 744 flying from NRT-NGO? I think the flight was 53 or something? The domestic run on the NRT-JFK-GRU flight? Not the shortest, but that's pretty big
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:18 am

AA EZE-MVD. 124 nm. Using 763 and sometimes 777!
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:32 am

UA did ORD-IAD with the 777, but that is intra-hub for them.

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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:07 am

AC has YYZ-YUL using A330-300 flight # AC417
 
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:35 am

I think our friends in Japan will give us a hand with this.
 
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:48 am

Well, i beleive the B757 is classed as heavy.

Therefore, Air-Scotland fly GLA-EDI which is only 40-50miles.

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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:03 am

How about airbus 320 - DTW - FNT - 54 miles
 
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:27 am

Quoting Nwafflyer (Reply 17):
How about airbus 320 - DTW - FNT - 54 miles

Don't think A320s qualify as heavy
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:36 am

Quoting AirCanada014 (Reply 14):
AC has YYZ-YUL using A330-300 flight # AC417

dont forget the multiple 767s on that run also

and 417 (or return 142) can also be a 343 or even 345.
AC has basically flown every type they have ever owned on YYZ-YUL, including 741, 742, 744, L10, 333, 343, 762, 763 widebodies.
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:42 pm

Quoting MGASJO (Reply 18):
Don't think A320s qualify as heavy

I wouldnt be able to lift one Smile
It's still a very big aircraft for such a short flight.
EI uses A330's on its DUB-SNN route, only a 20min hop!

[Edited 2006-03-05 12:43:25]
 
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:56 pm

Hi all

EY is opperating AUH-MCT with A330 and A340's, sometimes 767. 237miles
EK and LX are flying DXB-MCT with A330, EK sometimes with 340. 217miles
GF fly AUH-BAH with A340's. 281miles

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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:10 pm

KL does RTM-AMS i think, with a 777. 35 nm.
please correct me if i'm wrong!
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:34 pm

Quoting Byronsterk (Reply 22):
KL does RTM-AMS i think, with a 777. 35 nm.

I don't see the logic here....going through all that security check in etc....wouldn't it be a lot faster driving?
 
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:57 pm

BA does BAH - DOH (79 nm) in a 777-200ER every day...
 
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:25 pm

Quoting Intothinair (Reply 23):
Quoting Byronsterk (Reply 22):
KL does RTM-AMS i think, with a 777. 35 nm.

I don't see the logic here....going through all that security check in etc....wouldn't it be a lot faster driving?

excactly... there is no logic! that's what this topic is all about
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:55 pm

One of the shortest regular INTERNATIONAL hops by heavies (from the other thread) has to be Kuala Lumpur-Singapore at 185nm.

Regular shuttles are operated by SQ and MH with a variety of 777s, A330s and during peak holidays 744s - throughout the day and evenings. Other heavy operators on this route include SriLankan (A330/A340s), Air India (A310), Japan Airlines (767) and Air Mauritius (767/A340).
 
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Sun Mar 05, 2006 11:57 pm

I'm sure someone out there does SFO-OAK, no? Maybe not with a "heavy", but large, turbine aircraft nonetheless...
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:00 am

Back in the late 80's early 90's AA used to fly DTW to ORD with a DC-10.
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:06 am

In the 70's, Eastern and DL flew Tristars between FLL and MIA.
Those were scheduled flights at night but the reason was positioning for the morning originators.
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:18 am

I can vouche for Shannon-Dublin being a short flight. One such trip I took in 1997 was BOS-SNN-DUB aboard A330 EI-DUB ('St. Patrick'). On the SNN-DUB leg, our A330 started its takeoff roll at a point other than the true end of the runway...an 'intersection takeoff,' I believe it's called. Anyway, it scared the crap out of me as I looked out the window when we made the turn onto the active runway to start our roll. 'We are NOT going to get off the ground with this little runway!' I thought. Indeed, there was not much concrete left as we rotated.

I'm sure it's done all the time, but I was biting my nails on that takeoff roll!

Other than that it was a lovely low-level cruise over the quiet Sunday morning Irish countryside.

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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:41 am

Here is some nostalgia, all but gone-but memorable IMO:

FLL-MIA NAL DC-10 Sunking 21 NM, 12 minutes
FLL-FPO EAL L-1011 96 NM, 22 minutes
JFK-PHL UAL DC-10 Frienship 94 NM, 18 minutes
JFK-BOS TWA 747-100 186 NM, 28 minutes
JFK-IAD NWA 747-200 228NM, 36 minutes
Best Yet:
OAK-SFO WO DC-10, 11 NM, 9 minutes (turnaround JFK/OAK/SFO/JFK)

Short, but great!
 
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:12 am

KLM does not fly between RTM and AMS, unless flights have been diverted to RTM and have to be postioned to AMS.
 
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:23 am

I flew on a Continental DC-10 from MCO to EWR back in 1996.
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:36 am

Quoting Dmt52 (Reply 28):
Back in the late 80's early 90's AA used to fly DTW to ORD with a DC-10.

So did UA. I believe the aircraft continued on to LAS from ORD. The good old days!
 
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:47 am

I know UAL fly's from EZE to MVD is only 137 miles and they have 777 and 767 Ive done this and its a quite nice flight when you only go up to 15,000ft across the bay. I believe its only about 30 min. We got snack service.
 
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:51 am

I enjoyed a ride from Hong Kong to Taipei on a China Airlines 744 once. The most unusual 744 flight was with BA from Nairobi to Mahe, Seychelles - because of the low cabin factor. Must have been about 50 pax on both flights. I wonder if they use the large bird to show more strength than Air France (A340) - Seychelles has been both a french AND brittish colony...
 
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:01 am

LX currently operates a weekly A330 on ZRH-GVA, to rotate aircraft for maintenance (they have an A330 operating a closed loop GVA-JFK). Not the shortest, but if you get a left hand side seat en route from ZRH-GVA, the views are spectacular.

SR used to do a similar rotation with an A313 / A332 on ZRH-BSL when the once upon a time operated BSL-EWR (ARJ100 will no doubt be familiar!).
 
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:08 am

No one's mentioned QF (at time of writing  Wink )
I believe they do

SYD-MEL (continues on to AKL and LAX)
SYD-BNE (I think)

with 744's

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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:12 am

Quoting Avianca (Reply 8):
FRA-MUC
FRA-TXL
FRA-HAM

on LH A300-600

And sometimes 744s

CO does IAH-AUS with 753s at times scheduled and that is a mere 122nm, on a heavy class aircraft.
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:02 am

I flew on Eastern A-300 many times on SEA-PDX route. Roughly, 30 to 45 minutes flight.
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:42 am

Here are a few

Bangkok - Surat Thani (Thai Airways A300) 343mi
Bangkok - Phuket (Thai Airways A300/A330/777/MD11/747 and Orient Thai 747) 428mi
Bangkok - Chiang Mai (Thai Airways - A300/A330/777/747) 343mi
Kuala Lumpur - Singapore (Malaysia Airlines A330 and Singapore Airlines 772 and Sri Lankan 332/343) 185mi
Kuala Lumpur - Penang (Malaysia Airlines 330/744 and Cathay Pacific 773) 201mi
Kuala Lumpur - Langkawi (Malaysia Airlines 330/744) 201mi
Nassau - Providenciales (British Airways 763) 399mi
Tel Aviv - Ovda (El Al 767/777/747) 143mi
St Lucia - Port of Spain (BWIA A343) 217mi

The shortest has to be....
Kingston - Montego Bay (Air Jamaica A343) 84mi

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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:14 am

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 16):
Well, i beleive the B757 is classed as heavy.

Depends on the model....some of the 200's are dispatched for more than 255,000 LBS but the 300's are for sure HEAVY classified.

CO at times flies the B753 from IAH-AUS and overnights then back in the morning.....bout 120 miles.
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:52 pm

STL-ORD on an L1011 - 1986! 258miles.

[Edited 2006-03-07 15:53:15]
 
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:04 am

Often times, AC can send you YYZ-YUL on a 763 or A332.

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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:04 am

Two connections come into my mind:

QR: A332 DXB-DOH, 207nm
LH: A300 FRA-MUC, 162nm
300 319 320 321 332 733 734 735 738 753 763 F27 M83
 
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:07 am

Quoting AirCanada014 (Reply 14):
AC has YYZ-YUL using A330-300 flight # AC417

That definitely ranks up there for the biggest aircraft on the shortest route. I flew on that flight two days ago with the A333, total flight time was only 55 minutes for the 300-mile trip! BTW, flight 417 is YUL-YYZ.

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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:22 am

Quoting Experimental (Reply 24):
BA does BAH - DOH (79 nm) in a 777-200ER every day...

Damn, that is short!
 
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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:33 am

I would have to say:

United Flight 3
OGG (Maui) to KOA (Kona)
Boeing 777-200
Total Miles- 84 Miles
Total Nautical Miles- 72 NM
Flight Time- 35 Minutes

Now that is a short flight. I took it last March and you are in the air for only about ten minutes. Very Cool! The flight continues on to ORD.

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RE: Shortest Scheduled Route W/ Heavy AC

Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:16 am

DL....772 ATL-MCO-ATL....usually once a day IIRC.

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