El Al 001
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Need Help - TLV To South America

Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:22 pm

Hello guys,

After long awaited years I'm just about to finish my service in the Navy and taking half a year off on a trip to South America.

My friends and I are getting our trip planned.
It took us long time to establish everything all together and we are certain now on flying to Lima in the begining of May and to return to Israel from EZE in the middle of September.

Now to the 1000$+ question... Whom to fly with.

Most Israelis, when flying to SA, take Iberia.
The reason are that it's the cheapest and they let you change your returning date and destination once for free.
On the other hand now that Air Madrid starts flying to TLV they will offer cheapper fares than IB (though I'm really against flying with them).

I do however miss lots of miles by not taking a combination of LY and another foreign airline, thats why I rather fly with LY or a star allaince member so I collect miles in my "matmid" (LY FF club) or in "miles & more".

I am aware that anything which is not Iberia or Air Madrid might cost more, but if we are not talking about great amount of $$$ I will be glad to take other "helpfuk" airlines.

Can you help? thanx.
 
georgiaame
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RE: Need Help - TLV To South America

Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:27 pm

I don't know the costs, but you might consider Delta non stop to Atlanta, with connections into S America. Hardly my favorite airline, but it would be convenient, and you would get your miles.
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FlySSC
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RE: Need Help - TLV To South America

Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:33 pm

Quoting El Al 001 (Thread starter):
It took us long time to establish everything all together and we are certain now on flying to Lima in the begining of May and to return to Israel from EZE in the middle of September.

A good combination would be :

TLV-AMS-LIM : KL
EZE-CDG-TLV : AF

You can get miles on both ways (same airline) and have good fare with the new fare combination program AF-KL.

TLV. 05:50AM ---> AMS. 09:30AM KL462
AMS.11:05AM ---> LIM. 06:55PM KL741


EZE. 17:20PM ---> CDG. 11:15AM AF417
CDG. 06:25PM ---> TLV. 11:55PM AF2220
 
cedars747
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RE: Need Help - TLV To South America

Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:57 pm

There is El Al office in Buenos aires and they have agreement with Aerolineas Argentinas.You can email them and ask about the best deals from EZE to TLV
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RE: Need Help - TLV To South America

Thu Mar 23, 2006 9:21 am

I say the following:

LY TLV-MAD
AV MAD-BOG-EZE VERY CHEAP FARES!

LY TLV-JFK
UA JFK-IAD-EZE

LY TLV-some airport in europe
DL some airport-ATL-EZE

And finally,

LH TLV-FRA-GRU-EZE

or

LX TLV-ZRH-GRU
RG GRU-EZE cheap fares!
 
Marambio
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RE: Need Help - TLV To South America

Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:50 pm

Well, there are indeed quite a few options.

First of all, being a Matmid member will not help you a lot in South America. As far as I know, LY does not have any agreement with any airline in the region.

Air France/KLM may be interesting, but they are certainly not the cheapest option. Besides, you said you are not a member of any Skyteam frequent flier programme, and that alliance seriously lacks of partners in South America.

You said you are a Lufthansa Miles&More member. Then, the Star Alliance has a strong partner in the region called Varig. Yes, their financial situation is not the best at the moment, but you can relax - Varig means Brazil and Brazil will not let one of its best-known brands fall down. Their network in South America is very good, and their Brazilian routemap is just impressive. I have flown Varig many times and I still haven't had any bad experience. Even when I had my flight cancelled because of weather-related issues, they managed to re-book me and even gave me a free upgrade because of all the trouble.  Smile

The cons of Star Alliance:
1) You'll have to go everytime through GRU. And GRU isn't precisely the nicest airport on Earth, believe me.
2) When coming from Israel -or when going back home-, connect twice before reaching your final destination. Not nice.

If I were you, I'd become a member of a Oneworld program and fly Iberia. Their service (in Economy) is not the greatest, but you get the cheapest fares. Chile's LAN is also a Oneworld member, and through its subsidiaries Lan Perú, Lan Ecuador and Lan Argentina you can fly pretty much everywhere in the continent.

Any question, don't hesitate to ask us. And on behalf of all South Americans, let me give you a warm Baruch Haba to our continent.

Saludos,
Marambio
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cedars747
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RE: Need Help - TLV To South America

Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:18 pm

Aerolineas Argentinas will launch in the near future direct flights from EZE to TLV with one stop in MAD
Hasta la vista
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lima
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RE: Need Help - TLV To South America

Thu Mar 23, 2006 9:06 pm

Talking about miles and Oneworld, just look well. If you get a cheaper or discounted fare, you would probably not get full mileage, only a fraction. This happens with Iberia so read well the programs if you are after miles.
 
LipeGIG
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RE: Need Help - TLV To South America

Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:39 am

Quoting Marambio (Reply 5):
1) You'll have to go everytime through GRU. And GRU isn't precisely the nicest airport on Earth, believe me.

Marambio, you can fly FRA-GIG on RG 777 service and very quickly connect to the GIG-EZE RG 738 service on early morning.
GIG is nicer than GRU as well as not so crowded.
Also in the way back you can connect EZE-GIG and GIG-FRA.

Felipe
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