flybeq400
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Missing Links - UK Domestic Routes Required?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:17 am

Hi,

I was just wondering which UK domestic air routes (either ones never operating or operated in the past) people think would have potential for a daily (or better) service, possibly with a plane like the Q400.

MME-LCY?
NCL-GLA?

Any other ideas? What about the potential for OXF as a base? OXF-AMS, OXF-NCL, OXF-CDG?

Rgds

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sam1987
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RE: Missing Links - UK Domestic Routes Required?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:23 am

I say LGW to LBA is a much needed domestic service.

A few more feeders into long haul ops at LHR would be good too, but slots (or lack thereof) mean this is impossible.

I doubt services from OXF would be that successful because LHR is only an hour away (M40/M25/M4).
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RE: Missing Links - UK Domestic Routes Required?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:38 am

CWL to LCY with an airline who'd do a much better job of it than 6G

NQY to EDI, BFS, GLA
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RE: Missing Links - UK Domestic Routes Required?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:51 am

Quoting Cwldude (Reply 2):
CWL to LCY with an airline who'd do a much better job of it than 6G

NQY to EDI, BFS, GLA

Maybe Eastern Airways may look at CWL-LCY?

Also, CWL-GCI & CWL-INV

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RE: Missing Links - UK Domestic Routes Required?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:54 am

Quoting Sam1987 (Reply 1):
I say LGW to LBA is a much needed domestic service.

Clearly there isn't a strong enough market for it - Jet2 would be an ideal candidate but despite the success of MAN/LGW flights has chosen not to add LBA/LGW. And don't forget the last operator of the route couldn't make it work with a 29 seat aircraft.
 
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RE: Missing Links - UK Domestic Routes Required?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:59 am

Quoting Christa (Reply 3):
Maybe Eastern Airways may look at CWL-LCY?

And CWL-ABZ. It doesnt look like they will now start that route

I would like to see HUY-Belfast/EDI/LCY/BRS/SOU/JER (scheduled). Theres also potential for routes such as DSA-EDI/Belfast
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RE: Missing Links - UK Domestic Routes Required?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:17 am

More services from NWI  bouncy  , even something to a London airport would be most welcome. Obviously LGW or LHR but i'd assume LGW would be easier to get into. Its hell for those of us living in Norfolk or north Suffolk getting the either one of those airports. Makes for a long day if your travelling long haul !

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RE: Missing Links - UK Domestic Routes Required?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:19 am

Quoting Cwldude (Reply 2):
CWL to LCY with an airline who'd do a much better job of it than 6G

First Great Western run from Cardiff to London half hourly in just 2 hours, so there would be little demand for a flight. Similar reason why BRS-LGW failed (although this was dropped when BA Citiexpress left Gatwick - but there obviously wasn't enough demand for Air Southwest to pick it up)

Quoting Sam1987 (Reply 1):
I say LGW to LBA is a much needed domestic service.

Similar to Cardiff. Most people coming from LBA to London would be on business, and when you can get from Leeds to London Kings Cross in as little as 2 hours and 15 minutes, its more convenient than flying, to Gatwick at least. First you'd need to get to LBA, then leave at least an hour for check in, followed by an hour long flight, then getting from aircraft to the station would take about 15 minutes, followed by (at least) a 30 minute train journey. It would save a lot of time to take the train, unless BA were to operate the service, in which case many would use it as a feeder for long hauls from LGW, where they can book straight through to their destination on one booking.
 
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RE: Missing Links - UK Domestic Routes Required?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:35 am

Quoting Cwldude (Reply 2):
NQY to EDI

Your wish is granted! BE are operating the route this summer.

From LBA, I really want to see the JER service reinstated, with GCI tagged on. Are you listening Air Southwest?  Wink
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RE: Missing Links - UK Domestic Routes Required?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:31 am

Quoting Flybeq400 (Thread starter):

Oxford.
Q400 Just the plane for such services...

There are 5.8m people within 60 minutes drive from Surrey to Solihull - excluding the population of west London
There are no other commercial airports closer than +50 miles
Oxford City is the sixth most visited city in the UK with 7.7m visitors annually
Oxford's visitors made 9.6 million night stays and spent £523 million in 2003, of which 'business' tourism accounted for 25% of all trips and 31% of total spend
Oxford is centered amongst the prime visitor destinations outside of London including Bath, the Cotswolds, Stratford-upon-Avon, Warwick and Windsor
The region within a one hour drive of Oxford sees more overseas staying visits than the whole of Scotland and Wales put together, whilst Oxford itself sees nearly 30 times more than the Channel Islands
Most local residents still have to get up at around 4:00am to catch a 7:30am international flights from the likes of Heathrow, Luton or Birmingham
The rate of growth in industry, technology, research and science-based businesses in the region is amongst the highest in the whole of Europe.
In spite of Oxford's relative isolation from quick access to scheduled air services today, the local area continues to attract a very significant amount of inward investment from companies both starting up, looking for new headquarters or relocating.

See link for more info:
www.oxfordairport.co.uk/home/airline.htm

Gloucester Is another with real potential. Oban, Carlisle, and what about Carnarvon!?
 
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RE: Missing Links - UK Domestic Routes Required?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:32 am

Quoting DHHornet (Reply 9):
There are no other commercial airports closer than +50 miles

Don't Heathrow (45 miles), Birmingham (46 miles) or Luton (41 miles) count?
 
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RE: Missing Links - UK Domestic Routes Required?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:38 am

Quoting DHHornet (Reply 9):
In spite of Oxford's relative isolation from quick access to scheduled air services today

I would not classify a city just 50 miles and less than an hour's drive from the world's largest international airport as being 'in relative isolation from quick access to scheduled air services'. It is no further from Oxford to LHR than it is from LHR to LGW between which significant numbers of passengers transfer every day.
 
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RE: Missing Links - UK Domestic Routes Required?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:47 am

I wish someone would put on flights from ANY significant international airport, and Exeter - my sister moved down there, and it's impossible to get there (at least, impossible without paying an arm and a leg). Yes you can in theory connect from NCE via MAN, DUB or BFS, but the flight times make such a connection a practical impossibility. The flights out of CDG leave too early to be a viable connection (plus FlyBe with their outrageous "fees and taxes" - taxes my arse - how about a GBP50.00 YQ fuel surcharge !) - Flybe might be OK (and only OK) at flying people on leisure routes to France, but how about thinking this way - France could be a potential market for passengers too, you know - and NOBODY in France actually lives in Bergerac, or Poitiers, or Chambery ! Only Brits with more money than brains live in those trous. French people live in Paris, and Lyon, and Nice, and Marseille - how about flying where people actually live, and have 40 million more potential passengers ?

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RE: Missing Links - UK Domestic Routes Required?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 5:02 am

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 12):
Only Brits with more money than brains live in those trous. French people live in Paris, and Lyon, and Nice, and Marseille - how about flying where people actually live, and have 40 million more potential passengers ?

I am surprised that BE havent done SOU-Lyon, Nice or Marseilles. They seem to serve every other airport in France from SOU so why not those three?
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