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Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:50 pm

Just wondering, how long does a trip need to be for you to decide to fly instead of drive (or take the train, if you live in an area with good train service)?

For me, the threshold is right around 7 hours by car - farther than that I'll fly, closer than that I'll drive. I live in Indianapolis, which only has nonstop flights to a couple dozen or so destinations, btw.
 
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RE: Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:59 pm

Call me crazy, drive time 2 hour max, end of story. Having said that I've been on flights that I could have driven round trip in less time that the flight took with weather delays etc,. but still 2 hours is tops.
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RE: Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:23 pm

Anything over 5 hours for me and I'll fly over driving.
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RE: Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:44 pm

5-7 hours depending on circumstances.
 
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RE: Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:55 pm

4-5 hours max. Less if there is direct n/s service.

With some destinations that are right on the edge of the fly/drive zone, then price will be my first consideration, then the value of my time/time of year will be the other. I am more willing to drive in the summertime vs. the winter.
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RE: Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:55 pm

Depends on how long it takes to fly. A 345 mile trip that normally takes 6 hours driving took 8 flying. Arrive at the airport an hour early, make a connection in another city, get from the airport to my final destination. Flying can be exhausting!

And if you drive you don't have to rent a car at the airport.

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RE: Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:56 pm

I live in Northern New Jersey and work in NYC. For Phildelphia, Baltimore and similar locations along the Amtrak for work, I would use the train. If to DC from NYC, then fly the shuttle. Unless the location would be difficult to reach by a nearby airport, and about less than a 5 hour drive, then it's flying time.
 
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RE: Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:39 am

I work out most of my journeys like this;

up to 2 miles:- Walk.
2-20 miles:- Bike.
20-100 miles:- Bus or car.
100-150 miles:- Train or bus.
over 150 miles:- Fly.

I live in the Southwest of England, its a nuisance to get in and out of - the trains are slow and bumpy due to the line and its often closed, the roads take forever and even flying sometimes is difficult due to weather conditions. For the most part though, its cheaper to fly anything more than about 150 miles.

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RE: Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:06 am

I'm about 5 to 7 hours, depending on factors. For example, I can drive from OC to Las Vegas in about 4.5 to 5 hours on a good day, but with the current roadworks on the 15 freeway, it's more like a 6 to 8 hour drive. So right now, I elect to fly. Generally speaking though, 7 hours is my absolute max.

Of course, flying is a lot more fun than driving, so I often look for excuses to fly  Smile
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RE: Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:23 am

depends...usually 5-7 hours ill drive, especially if i desire to have a car at the destination city. if im going to a city ill just fly, i live in northern new jersey (20-30 mins from EWR), so pretty much further south than DC and further north than boston, and dont ask about points west, i never go to PA...
 
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RE: Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:00 am

I agree that 5-7 hours is the threshold, but it depends on multiple factors. If I am going for just a day, I'll fly so that I don't spend all of that time driving. However for a longer trip, I'm more eager to drive since I'll have my car and the drive isn't as much of a hassle. Another factor is if there are nonstop flights. If I have to make a connection, I could end up taking longer to fly, and I wouldn't want to do that. Also it can depend on whether or not I have to pay for the ticket. I'm more likely to spend someone else's money like my employer's to fly for a showerter trip.

The shortest flight I've taken is IND-ORD. I would have driven but I was only spending one night there and my meeting was at the O'Hare Hilton, so flying made sense.
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RE: Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:05 am

I really love driving, but also love flying (not airports, but actually taking off, the flight and landing...). Used to think 8 to 10 hours was the cutoff, because of not having my own car in the city I'm visiting.

But with $3+ gallon gas, I just returned yesterday from SEA (a mere 3 hours north of home) and flew on UA. The ticket price was cheaper than gas up and back would have cost. For a deal like that, I can happily justify the expense and inconvenience of a rental against the joy of flight (even on an Embraer 120!).
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RE: Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:11 am

In Alaska . . . well, since we really HAVE to fly most everywhere, it's anything south of FAI and all of the Kenai Peninsula is driven (in the summer usually hauling my camper  biggrin  ).

Everywhere else is by plane.

In the lower 48 - anything less than say 500 miles . . I'll drive - or take Amtrak if it's available.
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RE: Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:28 pm

We dont have anything like that, its just if only one person is travelling then he is going by the bus/train/air and not the car. If the whole family is going then we prefer to go by car.

We have done 24hr car journeies before, anything more we travel by air
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RE: Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:06 am

For me it depends. I live in Milford CT, right on the CT shore to the West of New Haven. I can hop on a train and be in NYC in less than 1.5 hours, so usually I can get a direct flight anywhere I'm going from JFK/EWR/LGA. Unless it's less than 150 miles, I'll drive. But now if it's on Amtrak's Northeast Corridor BOS-Washington, I'll hop on the Acela. If I'm going to an area in N. New England (Distance/No major airports) I'll rent a Cessna and fly myself there.


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RE: Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:44 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 12):
In Alaska . . . well, since we really HAVE to fly most everywhere, it's anything south of FAI and all of the Kenai Peninsula is driven.

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RE: Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:32 am

If I can drive it in a day, then the deciding factor is "How much will the rental car cost me if I fly?" If I'm going to be at my destination a long time, renting a car there might not be feasible. Like my recent 10-day trip to Florida... I could afford the flight and the hotel for that many days but renting a car in Florida is exhorbitant to say the least... 10 days of a car rental would have cost more than the flight and hotel combined! So I decided to drive.
 
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RE: Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:00 am

Depends on many things...time of year, cost, personal vs. business. A good example would be that I will drive to my parents' house in the Winston-Salem area which 5.5 hours from ATL but I flew every week to a client engagement in Greensboro/Burlington area of NC which is only 30 miles or so farther East of Winston.
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RE: Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:01 am

Man, I'd fly from my house to downtown if I could(about 10 miles).
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RE: Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:34 am

Hmm.. up to 500 ft. I walk - Then I get to a busy road with no sidewalk. (At work I get to walk longer distances though, and I do walk through town, but I have to get there by car/bike.)
Up to 27 miles, I drive, then I run out of island.
Anything else is either by boat or by plane for me.
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RE: Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:09 am

If it's a 6 hour drive or less I go by car. Anything more than that and I'm hopping on the plane. Also depends on whether we need the car at our destination city.
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RE: Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:55 am

For me 6 hrs is pushing it. . . but it also depends on routing. 6 hrs when it's mostly bogged in traffic is a nightmare. However, 6 hrs on nice flowing roads in my German sedan can be invigorating.

Also, flying transcontinental or international can be cheaper than 250 miles from ATL, depending on the market.
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RE: Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:08 pm

Quoting Chase (Thread starter):
Just wondering, how long does a trip need to be for you to decide to fly instead of drive

I would prefer to fly anytime!  Wink I love to drive, but nothing beats an airplane...

But I would say about four to five hours or so. It depends on a number of things: cost of driving vs flying, but also road conditions. While I love to drive in Germany, I would much rather fly in Turkey, for example.

I made a couple of long trips by car, the most being about 3000 kms from Holland to Turkey spread over three days. But there is a big difference between 3 days by car and 3 hours by plane!
 
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RE: Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:25 am

Call me stupid, but if there is an available flight to where i'm going, ill fly. but usually there is no flight to grandma's house...lol (about 2 hrs. away)

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RE: Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:40 am

It depends on how much it costs to fly - some of the shortest flights are the most expensive. Secondly it depends on the type of driving, and where exactly I'm going. New Zealand isn't a big country (slightly larger in size than The UK) so it's pretty easy to drive around. Generally apart from WLG I would drive anywhere
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RE: Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:44 am

Flying will ALWAYS be my preferred mode of transport, but when required, I will drive/travel up to 5 hours; then will feel the need to be on an airplane.
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RE: Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:03 am

Different story in the UK with petrol prices rising everyday its cheaper to fly than drive

But personally, if my destination had an airport that i could fly into, then id fly!

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RE: Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:16 pm

Depends on the trip particulars. Having been a commercial driver, max daily driving time is usually ten hours not counting stops. If I am in an area with reasonably good train or bus service, I'll do that. If I can hitch a ride with my parents or another pilot friend I'll do that. Calling the airline is the last, least preferable option.
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RE: Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:04 pm

my airport is 40 minutes away when traffics good so anything with any airport after that I will fly if possible.
 
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RE: Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:17 pm

About 200 miles, or 4 hours. Over that, I will always fly.

Actually, I'm trying to figure an itinerary that will test that threshold... I want to visit a friend in Boston, and I live in upstate NY, in the Hudson Valley... Should I fly ALB or JFK/LGA to BOS, or drive?
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RE: Your Drive Vs. Fly Threshold?

Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:13 pm

Depends a bit.
If I have only a day available, I fly to Auckland as it's five hours drive each way. Wellington not quite as bad. If it's a two day trip, also likely to fly.
I only drive that long distance if I know I will really need the car at the destination - also, last flight to Wellington cost me $212 return, which is definitely affordable for me. Generally, I prefer to fly if possible - but that's not just because I love to fly - it's also because I hate driving.
Under about 5 hours - 350km away - I drive, because there's no other option apart from the bus, and I hate going by bus even more than I hate having to drive!!!
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