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Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:56 pm

I saw a documentary on airline safety a while ago. An "expert" stated that he would not fly on a 727-100, or 737-100, due to their "relative ages". Curious to see if anyone had any similar thoughts....
 
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:59 pm

Any aircraft that is not properly maintained is a peril.

Otherwise, gimme some "wings" Big grin
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:04 pm

My heart beats faster every time I see a Tupolev or Ilyushin strange letters on the outside. I have no idea why.
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:05 pm

Any dinky beat-up little plane with no flight crew!!! Like a car with really bad suspension - you feel every bump n'at  Smile
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:08 pm

Quoting JoKeR (Reply 1):
Any aircraft that is not properly maintained is a peril.

Otherwise, gimme some "wings"

Couldn't have said it better... Big grin
 
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:39 am

Quoting JoKeR (Reply 1):
Any aircraft that is not properly maintained is a peril.

 checkmark 

Early 737's, even earlier 727's NO NO.......
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:19 am

I'll never set foot in any B1900s.
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:26 am

Quoting BoeingOnFinal (Reply 2):
My heart beats faster every time I see a Tupolev or Ilyushin strange letters on the outside. I have no idea why.

I couldn't have said it better myself. The modern ones I'm fine on, I'd fly on a Tu-204, but I'm weary of a Yak-40,42, and other planes like that, Tu-134s etc...

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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:30 am

no more 737-200 for me...
 
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:40 am

I was in a Eastern European country waiting to pushback and next to us there was a Tupolev 134. It looked very bad, I don't know how people would want to fly those planes. I wouldn't fly them if it was for free. I guess people in Russia or Eastern Europeans don't have a choice.
 
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:57 am

Quoting MattRB (Reply 6):
I'll never set foot in any B1900s.

Why's this? I service B1900's every day, they are wonderful aircraft!

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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:47 am

Quoting TUSflyer (Thread starter):
An "expert" stated that he would not fly on a 727-100, or 737-100, due to their "relative ages".

What an "expert"! You'd be hardpressed to find a 737-100...

Quoting YULYMX (Reply 8):
no more 737-200 for me...

I'm with you on that one. Avoid AQ if you ever come out to Hawaii!



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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:50 am

Any Tupolev,but especially the TU-154'S.BGH fly summer charters GLA-BOJ and VAR.There's no way on God's earth you would get me on one.I would cancel the holiday first!
it would be rude not to!
 
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:53 am

No there isn't. I always say to my self as long as the pilot flies it, it would be ok somehow ...
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:16 am

When flying in Lao recently, I was happy to avoid their Chinese Y12s, which have had a chequered safety record with them...I notice on their website, that they are about to introduce the MA60...I hope this is more successful!

Funnily, flying on one of their ATR72s, several passengers (maybe because of the propellers) thought they were Russian planes!
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:38 pm

I always look twice at a dirty 747-200..
Although... thats judging a book by its cover I guess...

1 plane that I have no idea why but I was always scared to fly on was a 747sp... and more recently an IL86...especially 1 maybe operated by a lesser known CIS operator..

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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:35 pm

any russian built aircraft for me ,hands down im sure there safe but you wouldnt catch me on one!
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:15 pm

Probably some of the Russian aircrafts and the A320. Ive been on the A320 so many time i don't ever want to fly on it again.
 
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:54 pm



I've been frightened by subpar pilots a lot more often than by subpar airplanes.




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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:27 pm

Quoting JoKeR (Reply 1):
Any aircraft that is not properly maintained is a peril.

Anything maintained by Trans States out of STL.

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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:38 pm

It is not a safety issue, but i dont like flying on props...i cant take the noise and vibration.

other than that, i only avoid things that say "expirimental" on the front!
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:57 pm

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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:57 pm

Any light aircraft, really. A bit counter productive seeing as I want to be a pilot when I'm older! But I really hate any light aircraft, so cramped, noisy, smelly, whatever. And they get thrown around the sky by the slightest "turbulence". No thanks.
 
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:29 am

You will never catch me on an Il-62. I will fly on the Il-86 and Il-96. The Il-62 just scares me.  scared  Check out this video. Worst climb performance I've ever seen. Make sure your sound is on.

http://flightlevel350.com/Aircraft_I..._Aviacion_Aviation_Video-4757.html
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:11 am

Quoting Dimoko (Reply 20):
i only avoid things that say "expirimental" on the front!

Ok, it's on the side, but it still says experimental  Smile

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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:56 pm

Quoting TUSflyer (Thread starter):
An "expert" stated that he would not fly on a 727-100, or 737-100, due to their "relative ages".

yes it's so hard NOT to fly on those since we see them so often...  Yeah sure

Quoting YULYMX (Reply 8):
no more 737-200 for me...

oh you broke my heart....


as for me any Ilyushin, Tupolev, Yak or airlines in certain areas of Africa, South/Central America and some airlines in Russia.
 
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:18 pm

Quoting YYZflyer (Reply 23):
The Il-62 just scares me.

Agreed. That climb performance was awful, and it sounded like the aircraft was just falling apart. I don't think I'd ever step foot on the Il-62 either...

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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:41 pm

Quoting Alaska737 (Reply 25):
as for me any Ilyushin, Tupolev, Yak or airlines in certain areas of Africa, South/Central America and some airlines in Russia.

yeah agreed doesn't seem safe at all
 
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:38 pm

I try to avoid airbus at all costs. airplane 
 
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:40 pm

Quoting Dimoko (Reply 20):
i only avoid things that say "expirimental" on the front!

Pardon me for sounding crass, but that's kind of an ignorant thing to say.

That means you wouldn't fly on....

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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:31 am

Quoting MattRB (Reply 6):
I'll never set foot in any B1900s.

Neither will I that's for sure!
Those things scare the crap out of me, I don't even like to be under one while they are flying overhead.
It isn't that I think they are out to get me,
I am just a little freaked out by them.

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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Sat Jul 29, 2006 4:45 am

the 707 of Saha air looks dodgy as hell, id like to go on it but i wouldnt dare!
 
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Sat Jul 29, 2006 9:07 am

I would go out of my way to fly on a Tu134 or IL86

would make a nice change
 
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:24 am

umm.. AIRBUS, except the A340.. For some reason I'm fascinating by it.. I have flown on it a good 20 or so times. Screw the A380 for stealing its spotlight as Airbus widebody.

Anything A32x. NO THANKS. I have flown on a A320 once. Never again.

European airplanes freak me out. Including Russian. I will never fly on a Russian a/c.

I have been on many many many flights. I have only flown Boeing or Embraer and the A340/3/5/6.

Quoting HorizonGirl (Reply 30):
Quoting MattRB (Reply 6):I'll never set foot in any B1900s.
Neither will I that's for sure!

What? Theyre just noisy. Come on..
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Sat Jul 29, 2006 3:44 pm

Quoting COEXpilot (Reply 33):
umm.. AIRBUS, except the A340..

what about the A330?

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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Sun Jul 30, 2006 1:47 am

Quoting Ordryan28 (Reply 34):
what about the A330?

I've never been on one. It's a wide body, so probably. My problem is the A318/19/20. I only like Boeing narrowbodys or regional jets and all widebodys.
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Sun Jul 30, 2006 5:40 am

There are some I try to avoid when possible, but I don't think there are any I simply wouldn't fly on.

I try to avoid BAe146/AVROs as well as any type of B737 - but I'll fly on both of those if they simply operate the flight that best suits my schedule... though I was quite pleased when I had to prolong my stay in Zürich this week by about 16 hours, changing my return flight from a LH B737 to an AB A319 (basically a double-bonus-situation: avoiding LH and a B737).

Obviously, there are planes through the whole spectrum of sizes that I prefer to others, but these two types are the only ones where I'll, for example, accept waiting an hour or so more for a connecting flight to avoid them.

Doesn't change the fact that the B737-series is my second-most flown type with 66 flights - with the A320-series at 80 flights.

Fortunately, I've been able to keep the BAEs/AVROs at 11 flights total so far... and from FRA, it's really not too difficult to avoid them... Big grin
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:53 am

What is wrong with the 737 series? It's the most sold aircraft in the history, if it's not good enough to fly on, I'd guess you don't like flying at all!?
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Sun Jul 30, 2006 9:09 am

Never again a NW DC-10

Thought the DC-10 is beautiful on the outside... no airflow, cramped, "worn-out" on the inside.

Quoting MattRB (Reply 6):
I'll never set foot in any B1900s.

Neither have I. True, I've never experienced a ride on one, but over-tinted windows from the outside, no on-board baggage room on the inside, and I've heard (but not verified) that one cannot stand strait up in the cabin.
 
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:05 pm

Quoting BoeingOnFinal (Reply 37):
What is wrong with the 737 series? It's the most sold aircraft in the history, if it's not good enough to fly on, I'd guess you don't like flying at all!?

If that nonsense was directed at me - why would not liking the B737 constitute not liking to fly? Because it's the best-selling plane? So what? The VW Golf is the best-selling car in Germany, which doesn't change the fact that I don't like it. Just like with the B737 I'll take it if it best suits my schedule or if it's the only thing available, but I would never specifically seek it out.

Why don't I like it? The primary reason might be because I feel cramped in them, and psychologically it might have to do with the fact that I would have died in one if I hadn't, a couple of weeks before a planned trip to South America, cancelled the whole thing (I was booked, and ticketed, on the Faucett flight from Lima to Arequipa that hit a mountain on approach in 1996)... or it might simply come down to not liking it and not having a single idea why... and not even caring enough to actively start searching for a reason: I don't like it - period. Nothing more, nothing less.

I guess it's too much to ask as to why you're not asking one of the previous posters as to why European planes freak him out... I have no problems with his comment, as it's probably the same thing that I have with Avros and B737s... no logical reason behind it, but it remains a fact nonetheless.
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Sun Jul 30, 2006 5:00 pm

Quoting Leskova (Reply 39):
I guess it's too much to ask as to why you're not asking one of the previous posters as to why European planes freak him out... I have no problems with his comment, as it's probably the same thing that I have with Avros and B737s... no logical reason behind it, but it remains a fact nonetheless.

Well said.

The reason I don't feel comfortable on a lot of Euro planes is just because. There really isn't a written-out reason.

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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Sun Jul 30, 2006 5:40 pm

I wouldn't fly on an M-22 Osprey or any of the older Soviet aircraft besides of safety concerns. I'd also not fly on a plane any smaller in size than a Cessna 406 or DHC-3 but besides that I'm pretty open.
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:43 pm

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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:44 am

Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 42):
I would not fly on this

Just curious. Why? 767-200's are awesome.. It is cause its dirty as shit.
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:51 am

Well I will avoid the E-Jets, they have a tendancy to SNAFU.
 
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Sun Aug 06, 2006 6:18 am

I would try and avoid anything Russian
 
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Sun Aug 06, 2006 8:56 am

Back when Valujet was still in existance I would avoid them due to there rak with the FAA.
 
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:08 am

Any plane that is headed to any war zone!
 
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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:20 am

Quoting Leskova (Reply 39):
I guess it's too much to ask as to why you're not asking one of the previous posters as to why European planes freak him out... I have no problems with his comment, as it's probably the same thing that I have with Avros and B737s... no logical reason behind it, but it remains a fact nonetheless.

Bravo, I have to agree. While the 737 is my hands down favorite aircraft and I would fly them on every route if possible (even the long, long, long ones like ATL-HNL). I understand your point of view entirely.

I don't care for the md-80, anything Airbus, the DC-10 or MD-11, although I would fly them.

I don't know if I will fly the A380 more than once though?

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RE: Is There A Plane You Would Not Fly On?

Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:57 am

Quoting WN2CMH (Reply 48):
I don't care for the md-80, anything Airbus, the DC-10 or MD-11, although I would fly them.

Ever since AS flight 261, which crashed into the Pacific Ocean I will never set foot on a MD-80, Thank God Alaska Air is retiring all their MD's. They will have an all Boeing fleet.

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