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Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:34 pm

Didn't really know where to put this.
If you are offended by this post, then don't reply, and I apologise.

I was just wondering:
Has anyone here, out of knowledge, flown on a plane which later in its life has had a mishap or accident?

I personally have been lucky to fly only on A/C that are either happily retired/broken up or still in service.
How about anyone else?
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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:52 pm

I'm pretty sure one A.Netter was on Air France Flight 358 and wrote about it somewhere here on A.Net. I doubt it would be in the Trip Report forum though.

Maybe someone has some links?

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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:53 pm

I flew in N664AA (AKA 5BP), the aircraft that crashed into the Pentagon. I am not sure, but I am also fairly certain I flew on N334AA
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:56 pm

Quoting Kieron747 (Reply 1):
I'm pretty sure one A.Netter was on Air France Flight 358

Wow, that must have been quite a scary experience
Well the closest I have ever been is about 1 year ago on a BA flight to Hanover from Brummy where it overran the runway. Wasn't too eventful to be honest, just a little bumpy, it was very wet though. A/C was an ERJ
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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:57 pm

Not an accident, but certainly mishap. I once flew BU from TOS-BGO. After we got off in BGO, the plane continued to SVG, and hit a pack of 15-20 seagulls.
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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:05 am

Quoting Kieron747 (Reply 1):
I'm pretty sure one A.Netter was on Air France Flight 358

I think his name was Eddieho.

I'm not 100% sure I've been on this aircraft. But I'm pretty sure. C-FTNA
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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:51 am

This is the only one that I am 100% sure I was on.

N148PM of Pilgrim Airlines

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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Sat Aug 12, 2006 12:06 pm

On October 24, 1997, I flew N215AA as flight 1144 from SFO to DFW.

In 1999, it crashed upon landing in Little Rock during a storm.


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Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:11 pm

Pan American (N739PA) "Clipper Maid of the Seas" 747 service from SFO to LHR in 1986. Bombed over Scotland eighteen months later.
 
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Sat Aug 12, 2006 4:19 pm

I flew many times in the Denim Air Fokker 50 that crashed in Melilla in January 2003.

I also flew in the Kenya Airways A310 that crashed after take-off. My flight was from LHR to AMS. If I'm correct it was one of two A310's in the fleet.
 
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Sat Aug 12, 2006 4:21 pm

For me, I did get to fly on this bird this past May ....


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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:43 am

Well, not a "dooming" incident and way before my time, but a NW DC-9-30 I flew on, N8925E, was allegedly hijacked in 1970.


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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:21 am

I flew out to SYD on VH-OJH on June 21, 2006; almost 7 years after this incident at BKK:


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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:21 am

Flew on TWA's N93119 in July 1995 from JFK-ATH
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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:03 am

I don't recall the tail number anymore, but I flew on the Valujet DC9 that crashed in the Everglades. I wonder if it was a warning when the pilot got lost trying to find our gate at DFW?
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:06 am

Quoting SA7700 (Reply 12):
I flew out to SYD on VH-OJH on June 21, 2006; almost 7 years after this incident at BKK

That incident cost QF $300 million in repairs and maintenance
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:46 am

Flying for SAA as a F/A between 1981-1993 we regularly flew on sister ships ZS-SAS "Helderberg" (crashed off Mauritius NOV87) and ZS-SAR "Waterberg" (crashed in Halifax?? Canada DEC05?? flying for MK Cargo), especially on the FRA & NYC trips. I remember walking into the hotel lobby in Hong Kong to be told by some of my crew members that SA295 TPE-MRU had gone down off Mauritius. Went to my room to check out the news- & sure enough, the aircraft was reported missing!!! Had a briefing on board from the Captain & Purser. We left HKG that evening 23H00PM on SA287 HKG-MRU-JNB. On landing in MRU (+/-4AM), the sea was full of hundreds of little boats looking for wreckage & "survivors". Our flight deck crew went to listen to the ATC recordings between MRU tower & the "Helderberg" and came back very shocked. It was very weird to think that 140 of our clients and 19 of our friends lay below that ocean- most awful feeling. Even worse, on arrival in JNB (the following day, having flown 14hrs Westwards with a refuelling stop in MRU) the Sunday Times was splashed with the news on its front page. Depressing to say the least!!!
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:42 am

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 13):
Flew on TWA's N93119 in July 1995 from JFK-ATH

Did the same in the opposite direction a year later.

I was on the last complete flights for both N93119 (TWA800) and HB-IWF (SR111).

I was flying ATH-JFK on N93119 and it crashed 3 hours later.

And I was flying GVA-JFK on HB-IWF and it crashed 4 or 5 hours later.

Those crashed still do and always will haunt me. Not only because it was so close to being me, but especially since I saw some people waiting to board the aircraft as I got off of them at JFK.

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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:19 am

Quoting VHVXB (Reply 15):
That incident cost QF $300 million in repairs and maintenance

Good lord, how?
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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:24 am

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 17):
I was flying ATH-JFK on N93119 and it crashed 3 hours later.

And I was flying GVA-JFK on HB-IWF and it crashed 4 or 5 hours later.

Those crashed still do and always will haunt me. Not only because it was so close to being me, but especially since I saw some people waiting to board the aircraft as I got off of them at JFK.

Don't mean to be a prig here, but how could you have seen them waiting to board, as you would not have gone into the departure area, but directly down to customs?
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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 4:26 am

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 19):
Don't mean to be a prig here, but how could you have seen them waiting to board, as you would not have gone into the departure area, but directly down to customs?

Old Int'l and TWA terminals at JFK, from the jetbridges you could quite easily see into the departures area, from what I remember. I was 9 and 11 when that happened though, so it could be that my memory has modified the experience slightly, but I distinctly remember that.

Did not actually walk past the departure gates themselves, maybe I should have clarified. Sorry!  Smile

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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 6:51 am

Crossair RJ100 HB-IXM which crashed near ZRH.
China Airlines Boeing 747-200 B-18255 on a HKG-TPE (plane crashed around 5 month later on a TPE-HKG flight)
Biman Bangladesh F28 S2-ACH which has an accident at Sylet and was written off.
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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:14 am

I flew on the same a/c that crashed in Shanksville,PA UA Flight 93. The tail number is N591UA. Looking back into my notes I realized that I flew on that plane about a year before it was to crash on a flight from BOS-DEN with my dad to visit my uncle, who was almost killed by a drunk driver in a car accident. Here's a picture of 591UA four days before it would make it's last flight.


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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:21 am

Been on two planes that were hijacked before I flew them.

While not specific planes I have been on two flights which later had Incidents,

AA Flight 1240 which dived 2,000 feet after almost colliding with a fighter jet.

and SWA Flight 1248 BWI-MDW that went off the runway.

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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:52 am

I was on N612UA IAD-ORD in August 2001. That is the 767 which was flown into Tower #2 of the World Trade Center. I was also inside of the World Trade Center a week before the attack.
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:52 pm

I don't really notice registrations of planes I have flown on, but I have noticed a few, and one of those happened to be the Air France A340 involved in the Toronto incident - I flew it a few months earlier from Paris to Chicago.
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:16 pm

I've never flown on a "doomed" bird, but as a click-happy youngster, I did snap a photo of N963AS (crashed as Alaska 261 on January 31, 2000) parked at the gate next to my plane at SEA back in 1995.
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 6:26 pm

Quoting SA7700 (Reply 12):
I flew out to SYD on VH-OJH on June 21, 2006; almost 7 years after this incident at BKK:


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I have also flown this aircraft in 2004 as QF25. QF flight attendants I know refer to this aircraft as Oh Jolly Heck! (OJH)
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:22 pm

We flew Pan-Am - New York a few weeks before the Lockerbie crash/bombing. It was not the same craft i think, but same route, over Scotland and out to the States. Sent a chill down my back when I heard the news ... thinking that some of the crew that served us could have lost there lives etc. Ugghh cant stand thinking of plane crashes.
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:29 pm

i know that seth macfarlane, the creater and many of the voices on Family Guy, missed the flight from Boston that crashed into the WTC.
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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:03 am

Quoting VHVXB (Reply 15):
That incident cost QF $300 million in repairs and maintenance

Wow, is that USD or AUD? They could have bought a new 744 for that money.
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:08 pm

Having worked for YV for 9 years in the NE... I was actually on the Beech that crashed in CLT several times.
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:15 am

I flew on PAN AM 's B747 'Maiden of the seas ' that came down in Locherbie Scotland ( apologies if I have the spelling wrong) I went to Oregon on it about 2 years before the tragic event. Could not believe it when I saw the wreckage of the Aircraft and her name.

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Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:12 am

I believe I flew on Delta 191 in the summer of 1985. My grand mother, sister and I flew from DFW to LAX weeks before a L1011 crash on that route. I do not know if it was the same L1011 we flew on, but I remember my parents and my grand mother saying that it was the same flight we took.
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:34 am

How about this guy, Stephen B. Aranha, who wrote, "This photo shows the wing that fell off when N2969 crashed at Watson Island (Miami) on Dec. 19, 2005."


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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:17 am

Flew N312RC the MD80 that crashed in DTW in 1987,the fltight were in 1984 and 85,MSP-PHX and MSP-LAS.
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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:18 pm

In August, 1987, I flew a TWA LAX-JFK and returned home on a UA DC-10.

I did not get the registrations, but I wish I had. For all I know, I could have flown on N93119 and N1819U.

Since the Sioux City accident, I have recorded the registry number of every plane I have travelled on, but thus far, nothing has come to grief.
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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:47 pm

Quoting DeltaGuy767 (Reply 22):

What happened on this crash?


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Sat Sep 02, 2006 7:12 pm

BA787, its was operating as UA93, September 11th 2001
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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:32 pm

I flew this aircraft between CDG and SXM in December (10 I think) 2004. When I saw the registration of the aircraft, I was really shocked. The thought that I was on that very aircraft only about 6 months before tha crash was really really scary....




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Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:23 pm

I saw a documentary yesterday stating that at anytime in the US there are 6000 aircraft flying IFR. When you consider how many people have flown on aircraft that were later involved in accidents its really freaky how many there are.

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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:27 pm

I have flown a few 'doomed' G/A aircraft. However, to my knowlege (and I could be wrong) have never flown on a 'doomed' commercial aircraft
 
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RE: Have You Ever Flown On A 'doomed' Aircraft?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 5:41 pm

I have had many trips on N963AS.(flt 261) airplane 




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