mpsrent
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Canada To UK - Who Do You Use?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 1:47 am

Looking for some feedback on who you like to use as an air carrier or travel agency (price, service) for Canada to UK flights. My preferred route is YYZ to MAN, though I could look at other options.

Any feedback is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
 
Cessnapimp
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RE: Canada To UK - Who Do You Use?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 2:54 am

I use Air Canada. Their service is awesome. Their 767's are great, always up to snuff. On time, efficient, and delivers you to the turnplate of Northwestern islandish non-continental Europe: Heathrow!
 
747433
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RE: Canada To UK - Who Do You Use?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:09 am

AC has more service than all other airlines combined.

AC has been flying to LHR for over half a century.

LHR-YHZ Daily
LHR-YUL 2X Daily
LHR-YOW Daily
LHR-YYZ 5X Daily
LHR-YYC 2X Daily
LHR-YVR 2X Daily

With new Executive First Suites being introduced shortly.

Maple Leaf Lounge at all gateways plus AC Arrivals Lounge in LHR.
 
tcxdegsy
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RE: Canada To UK - Who Do You Use?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:20 am

Have a look at TCX's 35" seat pitch and leather seat service (best economy seat pitch across the Atlantic from Canada)!
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mainMAN
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RE: Canada To UK - Who Do You Use?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:29 am

Sheesh, it's like an AC mega sales promotion in here  

Great airline, but I've always used TCX between YYZ/YVR and MAN, and also KLM via AMS. Have a look at GSM too, never used them myself but Glaswegians seem impressed enough on their trips to Orlando.

[Edited 2006-09-08 20:39:50]
 
RickYHM
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RE: Canada To UK - Who Do You Use?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 4:36 am

I don't know when you are going but try "flyglobespan". The just announced flights out of Hamilton International YHM statring May 2007.

http://www.flyglobespan.com/
 
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RE: Canada To UK - Who Do You Use?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 4:40 am

Because Im a high ranking Star Alliance FF, I use either AC non stop/direct or UA via ORD or IAD  Smile



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RE: Canada To UK - Who Do You Use?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 5:05 am

Quoting TCXDegsy (Reply 3):
Have a look at TCX's 35" seat pitch and leather seat service (best economy seat pitch across the Atlantic from Canada)!

I'll second that with enthusiasm. As someone who is 6'4", nothing is more important than legroom for me. I flew them in August and was very impressed with the seats and meals, however the IFE is quite dated (not that I care much, but at the time I couldn't even bring my iPod). Good news is it looks like Canadian Affair will still have the TCX 757s in their program for 2007 even though they were bought out by TS.

AC only flies to MAN in the summmer months (and is quite expensive) so I have been avoiding them - I would have been an aeroplan elite by now but much poorer

AC through Heathrow is too much of an inconvenience for me from MAN, it adds at least 3 hours to the journey time. I've done YYZ-MAN six times this year and MAN-YYZ five times, using bmi (thru ORD), AC (thru LHR), Zoom, Thomas Cook and Transat. First choice is TCX and second would be Zoom. If I had to connect, I'd rather use bmi to ORD and then back to YYZ on UA/AC (they have better meals and IFE than AC in Y).

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aircanl1011
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RE: Canada To UK - Who Do You Use?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 5:25 am

If you are concerned about price, forget about AC and go with the Charters. There is no need to consider connecting anywhere in the US, that will add unnecessay time and money. I can't imagine why anyone would bother with that.  thumbsdown 

You want to look at TS or Zoom for Canadian Charters or Thomas Cook or My Travel for British Charters. They will get you there.  bigthumbsup 

Keep in mind that travelling betwen major cities in the UK is not the same as it is in Canada as the distances are not the same. I travel to Cardiff a lot, and if I can't get a flight to CWL I will fly to LHR or LGW and either get a ride from there or take the bus.
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RE: Canada To UK - Who Do You Use?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 5:30 am

I usually use AC856 YYZ-LHR, but I'm curious about TCX, Zoom and TS. I've found good fares, usually in early spring, for travel in May (best time of year to visit the UK, if you're vacationing).

My Aeroplan account isn't enormous, so I'm not necessarily tied to AC. I've also thought of trying BA, just for the 777.

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RE: Canada To UK - Who Do You Use?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 5:37 am

Quoting Lucky727 (Reply 9):
but I'm curious about TCX, Zoom and TS

In my experience so far this year:

TCX - Flights on time, good food, terrific seats (though narrow as to be expected on a 757). Dated IFE and cabin in general, and they are a bit cheap with the range of drinks that they offer for free (tea, coffee, water and squash - fake juice for the non-brits  Smile ).

Zoom - Perky yet professional staff and good seats (particularly premium economy which I snagged for $70 extra a few days in advance). Meals were OK, nothing special but the Plasma screens for the movies are really good. Zoom can be quite prone to delays due to their shortage of aircraft but I didn't experience any other than due to weather.

TS - Grin and bear it. Whether on the A310 or A330 makes little difference, seat pitch and width is about the same which is way too small for someone my size. A bit less friendly service than the first two (but still professional), and extermely skimpy meals (pasta with no meat for supper and a muffin for breakfast). However, they are quite punctual and having spare aircraft available makes lengthy delays less likely.

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Lucky727
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RE: Canada To UK - Who Do You Use?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 5:47 am

Quoting CPDC10-30 (Reply 10):
my experience so far

Thanks for the reviews!

TCX only fly to MAN, right?
Zoom sounds good - I'll keep the premium economy in mind (assume booze is gratis?)
TS - I've only flown them domestically, and your comment about the food reminded me of my last flight with them, on an ex-CX L1011 back in the 90s - even in their 'premium economy', the meal was jaw-droppingly skimpy and not very good...

Anyone done YYZ-UK on BA?

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RE: Canada To UK - Who Do You Use?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 5:54 am

Quoting AIRCANL1011 (Reply 8):
Keep in mind that travelling betwen major cities in the UK is not the same as it is in Canada as the distances are not the same.

But the traffic and ground transportation can be horrendous, from the price of fuel to rail ticket restrictions, it all conspires to keep us Brits at home most of the time! There's obviously a conspiracy going on  Wink
 
klyk1980
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RE: Canada To UK - Who Do You Use?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:17 am

So far...loyal to Star Alliance, AC is my choice with more flights and reliable services.

I tired US Airways as well....not bad though, PHL is messy and CTL is a better choice to transit.
 
747433
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RE: Canada To UK - Who Do You Use?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:26 am

AC 762s have the best Y seat pitch across the Atlantic. 38"pitch in the 1st 4 rows. YYZ-MAN and YYZ-LHR (flight 862/863 only) YYZ-AMS YYZ-SNN/DUB YYZ-CDG (AC882/883) YUL-CDG (AC884/885)
 
Jmc777
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RE: Canada To UK - Who Do You Use?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:38 am

TCX Routes are as follows for the remainder of the summer:

Manchester to:
YYZ
YUL
YOW
YHZ
LGW to:
YYZ
YUL
YOW
YHZ
BHX to:
YYZ
GLA to:
YYZ

All services operated on 757s with the 35" seat pitch..

From next summer the same programme apart from BHX. However, NCL will gain a YYZ service on the 757.
 
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RE: Canada To UK - Who Do You Use?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:07 am

Quoting CPDC10-30 (Reply 10):
Zoom can be quite prone to delays due to their shortage of aircraft but I didn't experience any other than due to weather.

Yep. I flew them on YUL-LGW-YUL: the first flight was 3 hours late and the second flight was 30 hours late. On the outbound flight, we were offered via email to upgrade to premium for 40$/person and it was worth it.
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RE: Canada To UK - Who Do You Use?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:10 am

My girlfriend uses STAR carriers if the price is right, but saved CAD $300 this summer by using Air Transat.
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JFK998
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RE: Canada To UK - Who Do You Use?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:32 am

PK flies YYZ to MAN dont they? Their service is decent. It gets you from A to B and they have PTVs and sh-tuff like that..
 
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RE: Canada To UK - Who Do You Use?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:42 am

Quoting JFK998 (Reply 18):
PK flies YYZ to MAN dont they?

They do but they don't offer tickets for sale on that sector. Its a shame because I would love to give them a try. Air India from BHX is close enough to be tempting but not unless the prices are better than what is available out of MAN.
 
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RE: Canada To UK - Who Do You Use?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:16 am

I will agree that Air Canada offers a great product on flights to/from the United Kingdom. Flew with them a few times from Montreal to Europe (on both A333s and 767s) and it was great. The service is pretty decent as well. Now I can't wait to see those 767s getting refitted, it will only get better for ACA and their customers.

I also tried TCX to LGW last spring and it was great. Leather seats for those who enjoy them, great seatpitch and, not the least, great fares. Service is pretty basic and so are the meals, but for the price you pay, and giving the fact it's quite a "short" long-haul flight, I would fly them again without any hesitation.

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mpsrent
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RE: Canada To UK - Who Do You Use?

Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:33 am

Lots of great feedback. I'm going to check out some of the suggestions. Thanks to everyone who replied.
 
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RE: Canada To UK - Who Do You Use?

Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:50 am

BA fly YYZ-LHR-MAN, I used them last summer to fly YVR-LHR-MAN and the flights were fine. Good service, and a 744! (although I think YYZ is a 767/777 now)
 
mpsrent
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RE: Canada To UK - Who Do You Use?

Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:07 am

Quoting AIRCANL1011 (Reply 8):
Keep in mind that travelling betwen major cities in the UK is not the same as it is in Canada as the distances are not the same. I travel to Cardiff a lot, and if I can't get a flight to CWL I will fly to LHR or LGW and either get a ride from there or take the bus.

Good point. From Manchester I go to Lancaster so I must rent a car. I could consider flights to Scotland as the travel distance isn't that much different.
 
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RE: Canada To UK - Who Do You Use?

Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:23 am

I can vouch for TCX, i had both of their 35" B757's to and from Majorca. The pitch was nice because usually at 28"/30" on charter airlines, my legs touch the seat infront. Granted, i'm not 6 foot plus (I'm 5'8) but it is nice, it felt like i could have a footy game in the space!

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