aussieindc
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AS First Class

Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:21 am

Hi All,

Just a quick question. What is AS First Class like and is it worth it? I'm considering using AS from DCA-LAX to connect with my QF flight to BNE (yes, quite a long layover).

I searched AS's website but could not locate any pics of their product and the only cabin pics on the 737's on a.net are relatively old.

Any info to assist with my decision would be greatly appreciated.

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roseflyer
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RE: AS First Class

Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:30 am

I would say that Alaska first class is pretty comparable to what you would get flying first class on any other airline serving Washington DC-LAX. The seats are the standard larger comfortable seats that you find on domestic first class with all the airlines. I haven't been on any of their newer planes that have a modified interior, but the seats seemed pretty standard last time I flew AS in first two years ago. You will also be served a hot entree just like you would on any other airline.

With regards to having a long connection, that is a good thing since AS has a reputation for delays, although there shouldn't be much problem with a transcon like DCA-LAX.
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RE: AS First Class

Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:34 am

Hi,

If you could buy it as an upgrade, go ahead with no doubt! I experienced it in May between ANC and LAX, and it really worth the $100 paid. I was lucky enough to book it at the gate.

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RE: AS First Class

Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:47 am

As others have said, AS has a pretty standard domestic first class cabin experience. The benefit is that you can often upgrade for a small fee near flight time unlike many others.
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RE: AS First Class

Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:51 am

I would say AS first class is average. It's nothing special, but I don't think it's the worst thing out there either.

The seats on the 737 are standard 2x2 for first class, but on the transcon planes they are relatively new, with adjustable head support. The pitch is alright, 36-38"; I usually like Row 2 as I think it has an extra inch or so compared to rows 1 or 3. I'm not sure if they use a 73G or 738 on that route, but row 2 is the best on both aircraft. If you're on the 738, avoid row 4 because there's only a curtain between you and coach, so people put their feet on your seatback.

Not sure of the timing, but there is a hot entree service for both breakfast/dinner, so that shouldn't be a worry. IFE is provided in the form of a free digiplayer, but the movies have been less than stellar as of late.

Any other questions let me know; I just took AS from SEA-BOS and EWR-SEA in F a couple of weeks ago.
 
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RE: AS First Class

Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:40 am

Thanks guys, I appreciate your comments. FYI, it's a 738 departing around 9am, with a lunch departure out of LAX.

I'm toying with this idea or working out if it's best for me to go DCA-JFK to meet up with QF that way. QF is on an AD ticket. So on one hand, it's a non stop relatively comfortable flight on AS, or a short hop to JFK with possibly a full row down the back to myself with AVOD JFK-LAX without such a long layover.
 
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RE: AS First Class

Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:56 am

Quoting Aussieindc (Reply 5):
I'm toying with this idea or working out if it's best for me to go DCA-JFK to meet up with QF that way. QF is on an AD ticket. So on one hand, it's a non stop relatively comfortable flight on AS, or a short hop to JFK with possibly a full row down the back to myself with AVOD JFK-LAX without such a long layover.

Qantas service is a whole lot better than Alaska. On Qantas you'll get a meal and also all the benefits of a 747 like the IFE and extra seat comfort (presuming that you are flying in business or first class). Qantas would offer a much more desirable product for that 5 hour flight to the west coast than AS would and it would make your time spent in LAX a lot easier since you don't have to go through the hassle of checking in again and the terminal transfer (even though it is pretty easy since Qantas uses T4 and TBIT, which are next to T3).
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RE: AS First Class

Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:24 am

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 6):

 checkmark  that's a good idea. Even though I hate to say don't fly AS. AS is a great airline, so you won't be disappointed either way. It comes down to which one is more convenient for you. AS's new interior is really a nice upgrade from their old seats. I agree first class is pretty much standard. Hope you have a nice and safe trip!

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RE: AS First Class

Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:33 am

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 4):
avoid row 4 because there's only a curtain between you and coach, so people put their feet on your seatback.

uh oh, I have 4F from MCO-SEA-MCO in November. (and no other choice) I've never had feet on my seatback with DL or NW so I hope this doessn't happen on AS!
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RE: AS First Class

Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:00 am

AS F is okay, fairly tight pitch (similar to NW in that respect). I'd probably go for getting up to JFK and flying the QF flight though.  Smile

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RE: AS First Class

Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:20 am

Thanks again guys... I should have really spelt it out.

Quoting Aussieindc (Reply 5):
or a short hop to JFK with possibly a full row down the back to myself with AVOD JFK-LAX without such a long layover

It's an AD in Y ex: JFK. Even still, I'm kind of leaning towards the QF/JFK route given I don't have to spend the whole day in LAX (there's only so much spotting I could handle).

I appreciate all your comments and thoughts.
 
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RE: AS First Class

Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:31 am

an somewhat unrelated question on AS:

i am an executive plat on AA and as such i get complimentary upgrades as space exists. is there any carryover to AS or how do their upgrade systems work...do you ask at the airport and pay an additional fee or what, does status matter?

thanks for any info.
 
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RE: AS First Class

Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:56 am

Quoting VSLover (Reply 11):
is there any carryover to AS or how do their upgrade systems work...do you ask at the airport and pay an additional fee or what, does status matter?

There isn't anything reciprocal for AA elites on AS, even if you're flying under a codeshare, except priority boarding. AS does provide space-available upgrades you can buy on the day of departure when you check in. The cost varies by market, and the last time I upgraded between PDX and LAX it was $50, but that was a couple of years ago, so it might have changed. There's a number of threads on flyertalk.com in the AA forum about AS and how it all works.
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RE: AS First Class

Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:29 am

Keep in mind that UA has internationally configured planes IAD-LAX. Much nicer up front than on the AS planes.
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aussieindc
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RE: AS First Class

Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:23 am

Quoting Zrs70 (Reply 13):
Keep in mind that UA has internationally configured planes IAD-LAX. Much nicer up front than on the AS planes.

The AS sector was going to be a dirt cheap AD75 ticket whereas I haven't seen any domestic UA AD tickets. If anyone is aware, certainly enlighten me. I'd love to look at the 777 inbound from AMS-IAD-LAX.
 
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RE: AS First Class

Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:39 pm

Quoting Aussieindc (Reply 5):
it's a 738

those are the new seats with nice soft leather and headrests.

Quoting Sllevin (Reply 9):
similar to NW in that respect

wel... NWA has cloth seats and I would have to say that the customer service that I've recieved on AS is a better, but that aside AS first class would be a good choice.

Quoting Aussieindc (Reply 10):
It's an AD in Y ex: JFK. Even still, I'm kind of leaning towards the QF/JFK route given I don't have to spend the whole day in LAX (there's only so much spotting I could handle).

when are you flying? the lounge at LAX for Qantas is nice, and the new one they are putting in the tom Bradley will be up before the end of the year and that will be really nice, so I wouldn't be to worried about spending time in LAX. get some spotting in, look around the airport watch some telly in the lounge take a shower have some food sleep relax. It could be relaxing.

If you are flying First class on AS compared to coach on QF I think you would be better off with AS.... you still have the DigEplayers on AS.
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RE: AS First Class

Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:31 pm

For what it's worth, http://alaskasworld.com/NEWS/2006/09/22_CondeNast.asp

In Condé Nast Traveller magazine’s 2006 readers’ poll, business travelers rated Alaska Airlines’ first-class service second among airlines offering business/first class on domestic routes.

More information within that link..
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RE: AS First Class

Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:56 am

Quoting Aussieindc (Thread starter):
I searched AS's website but could not locate any pics of their product and the only cabin pics on the 737's on a.net are relatively old

www.airlinemeals.net features their inflight meal service. Ive done a lot of flying on AS in first class, granted that was ten years ago, but still AS is known to have wonderful crews, and great service. But if I had the choice, Id take UA first class any day over any airline.
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RE: AS First Class

Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:57 am

I flew AS F a couple of times over the summer, LAX-SEA and SEA-SFO. The two flights were extremely different but overall I thought they weren't bad and I'd consider them again based on the LAX-SEA flight. Access to the Boardroom for those on F tickets, well organised priority boarding system, decent snack, free flowing Alaskan beer, friendly service  thumbsup 

LAX-SEA: AA/AS First Class & US Express: RIC-SEA (pics+vid) (by Fbgdavidson Jul 13 2006 in Trip Reports)
SEA-SFO: AS/AA First Class & US Airways: SEA-RIC (pics) (by Fbgdavidson Jul 13 2006 in Trip Reports)

Quoting Aussieindc (Reply 5):
I'm toying with this idea or working out if it's best for me to go DCA-JFK to meet up with QF that way. QF is on an AD ticket. So on one hand, it's a non stop relatively comfortable flight on AS, or a short hop to JFK with possibly a full row down the back to myself with AVOD JFK-LAX without such a long layover.

If you can get premium cabins then QF is bound to be miles ahead of AS. You are comparing a domestic product with an international one. Alternatively if you are going up to JFK consider the JFK-LAX flights on AA and UA. They both have very decent sized F seats, almost comparable with an international J seat:

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