krisyyz
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Airline Fleets With The Best A/c Combinations

Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:40 am

There are airlines which believe that fleet commonality is very important and try to have one aircraft family as the backbone of their fleet. There are also airlines that due to their size or various missions, have acquired various different types.

IMO, CO has a great fleet.
B733/B735/B73G/B738/B739/B753-- Domestic and North American ops
B752/ /B764 -High capacity domestic and international ops
B762/B764/B772- Long-haul international ops

Engines: GE-CFM and RR(757)

The beauty of CO's fleet is that most of their aircraft can be used for various ops effectively. B739 could fly short transatlantic ops, B752 and B764 can do a great job domestically and internationally. My point is great fleet flexibility with the best quality aircraft. (Massive Boeing bias)

Air Canada on the other hand

CRJ/E170/E190/A319/A320/A321/B762- Domestic, US and short range international
B762/B763/A330/A340 - high capacity domestic and long haul flights
Engines: GE-CFM, RR, PW

AC Future fleet:
CRJ/E170/E190/A32x- domestic, US, some International
B772LR/B773ER/B788/B789- International long haul
Engines GE-CFM

AC too has great fleet flexibility, but they are also forced to take B763/A330/A340 out of international ops for high capacity domestic flights like YYZ-YVR.


Crew training, maintenance, spare parts, engines, interior commonality are all advantages of having a streamlined fleet.

So what airline do you think as a "strong" fleet and why?

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IAHFLYR
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RE: Airline Fleets With The Best A/c Combinations

Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:33 pm

Quoting KrisYYZ (Thread starter):
B739 could fly short transatlantic ops


Not sure that is the right aircraft for that job, 800 probably has better legs for the Atlantic stuff, but agree with the fleet assesment.
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RE: Airline Fleets With The Best A/c Combinations

Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:08 am

Swiss (LX) :

A332 on shorter or/and less busy intercontinental routes.
A343 on longer or/and busy intercontinental routes.
A319/20/21 for Busy European and Domestic routes (or for additional second daily runs to TLV and CAI, in addition to the daily heavy A343)
AVROs for feeder and/or less busy European and Domestic routes.



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krisyyz
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RE: Airline Fleets With The Best A/c Combinations

Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:50 am

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 1):
Not sure that is the right aircraft for that job, 800 probably has better legs for the Atlantic stuff

That's true, Is CO getting 739s or the ER version?

Quoting ZRHnerd (Reply 2):
A332 on shorter or/and less busy intercontinental routes.
A343 on longer or/and busy intercontinental routes.
A319/20/21 for Busy European and Domestic routes (or for additional second daily runs to TLV and CAI, in addition to the daily heavy A343)
AVROs for feeder and/or less busy European and Domestic routes.

LX does have a pretty streamlined fleet as well. I guess LX got PW for the A332s because its MD-11s had PWs aswell. With the MD-11s gone  Sad, it would of made more sense to have CF-6s.

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RE: Airline Fleets With The Best A/c Combinations

Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:54 am

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 3):
Is CO getting 739s or the ER version


Yes to both........currently they have 12 900's in service, order for ER's but I don't remember how many they ordered.
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RE: Airline Fleets With The Best A/c Combinations

Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:22 am

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 3):

LX does have a pretty streamlined fleet as well. I guess LX got PW for the A332s because its MD-11s had PWs aswell. With the MD-11s gone Sad, it would of made more sense to have CF-6s.

Yes, that's right, but by the time they signed for the A332s the MD11s (PW powered) were still the flagship of SR's fleet and nobody knew when they would go out of service and what they would be replaced with, so back then, PWs made more sense.
After all, they are very happy with their A332, no matter wether PWs or CF6s, they are very reliable and thus it does not really hurt them not to use CF6s.

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