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Qatara340
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Unusually Long Flights: Your Stories

Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:28 am

Well, I read yesterday that a fellow A-netter took a DXB-JFK flight which lasted 16 hours--more than 2 hours more due to wind. Is it common for flights to last longer than usual. What are your stories?


I once took a QR flight to London which lasted almost 9 hours, from the usual 7 hours! We could "feel" the wind blocking our movement and slowing us. Anyway, please feel free to share your elonged flight times--or flight paths. Sorry it was discussed before...  Smile

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markyboy
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RE: Unusually Long Flights: Your Stories

Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:42 am

Quoting QatarA340 (Thread starter):
We could "feel" the wind blocking our movement and slowing us

Did you have the windows down or something?  Wink

I once flew from Aberdeen to Gatwick on BA about 10 years ago and after landing we were not allowed off the aircraft for nearly 6 hours thanks to the IRA!

Not strictly a long flight but sure was a long time and unusual.

regards,

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RE: Unusually Long Flights: Your Stories

Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:47 am

I flew ATL-SCL on DL and had to return to the gate 4 or 5 times because of a few random problems that came up. Got in 3 hours late...
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RE: Unusually Long Flights: Your Stories

Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:51 am

I was coming back from China doing PEK-LHR on an Air China A343, the flight lasted nearly 12 hours, pasrtly due to a headwind, but also the fact that we only had 3 engines running for part of the journey.

To put it in context, this summer I did PVG-AMS, several hundred miles further in 10 hours, although that was on a slightly faster B744.

Also MAH-GLA, 1175 miles but it took us well over three hours due to a very strong headwind.

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RE: Unusually Long Flights: Your Stories

Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:56 am

I once did a MUC-IAD on UA that took about 10 hours. Maybe not so unusual, especially in Winter but it was unusual to. I don't often think of a hop across the pond as 10 hour flight  Smile

The route took us way north, over the southern tip of Greenland, then towards Toronto, and then south to IAD. It was a looong flight.
 
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RE: Unusually Long Flights: Your Stories

Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:56 am

Well, had a YVR-OGG flight on the now defunct C3000 that took about 7 hours once due to intense jetstream enroute. Actually, they flew a significantly longer route to avoid the headwinds, flying far more west than south initially before finally turning nearly dead south.
 
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RE: Unusually Long Flights: Your Stories

Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:03 am

I made the mistake of connecting in EWR on a return flight (from PBI) on CO once...EWR to PDX is one VEEERY long leg, especially on a 738 (~6 hour block time?). I was in the middle seat in economy, between two very large people, in the last row  crowded  At least the IFE map showed us briefly overfly Canada in the great lakes region...someone busted the headphone plug for my seat, so I couldn't listen to the in-flight movie  Sad

Next time, I will use IAH as my connection location on CO!
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RE: Unusually Long Flights: Your Stories

Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:04 am

I once did FRA-MEX and it took 2 1/2 hours after boarding to get to the runway ( d/t a bad slot) and the flyinf time was 13:50h.
Once we landed in MEX it took as another 45min before be disembarked!

So in total I was locked to my Lufthansa Seat for 17hours!!!!!!  boxedin 
 
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RE: Unusually Long Flights: Your Stories

Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:06 am

I did DFW-HNL one time on AA. That was 8 hours during the summer. And it made the flight feel so much longer because there was constant sunlight for the whole trip. I'd hate to see what that route is like during the winter.
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RE: Unusually Long Flights: Your Stories

Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:07 am

it was fall 1995. We boarded a US 767 in Frankfurt. We took off. We immediately landed because of a mx problem. We were kept on the plane out at a remote stand for 2+ hours while they tried to fix the part. We took off once again. Miserable headwinds. Half way across the pond, the pilot comes on the intercom to tell us that all put one lav had been closed, because the holding tanks were near full. Seems that no one at FRA had thought to have the lavs pumped while we were on the ground. We finally land in PIT, 13 hours after boarding the plane. Passengers all sprint to the toilet. After relieving themselves of piss, pissed off passengers descend on US Airways customer service desk to change flights.

Ah, what a memory.  vomit 
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RE: Unusually Long Flights: Your Stories

Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:09 am

Yesterday I flew from ATL-LAX on DL on a 767-400. The flight took 5 hours as opposed to the 4:10 it normally takes.
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RE: Unusually Long Flights: Your Stories

Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:10 am

Flying from Australia to South Africa can be up to 2.5 hours longer going westbound than eastbound, because of the strong jetstreams over the Southern Ocean. I took a QF flight SYD-MEL-JNB, it was one of the very early nonstop MEL-JNB flights, and they SERIOUSLY misjudged the catering, basing it on the standard SYD-PER-JNB requirements. We had a tiny breakfast SYD-MEL (literally a bit sized croissant and juice), then a fairly miserable lunch on take off from MEL - bear in mind that this was a daylight flight, due to land in JNB mid-afternoon, and so very few people went to sleep. They didn't feed us again for 9 hours, people were starving - parents were mugging FA's in the aisle and demanding food for their kids who were passing out from low blood sugar  Smile - Eventually they came round with boxes of Anzac cookies (mmmmmm Anzaacccc cooookiieesss !) to stave off the pangs until they fed us a snack an hour before landing in JNB. That was a loooonggg flight  Smile

Another really long one was JFK-JNB nonstop - after finally getting on the flight (I was on NonRev standby having been offloaded off the one-a-week MIA-CPT-JNB flight so that the captains kids could fly - bastards ! - and had had to fly up to JFK to try to get home), I had dinner, watched the movie, took a very strong sleeping pill, slept 8 hours, and we STILL hadn't crossed the Angolan coastline when I woke up - aarrrgghhh - ho hum, very boring. They showed the same movie about 3 times IIRC.
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RE: Unusually Long Flights: Your Stories

Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:10 am

AA MIA-EZE Dec 2001. Just after they closed the door they announced a delay because they had to reload the flight computer. We were not let out of the plane so spent an extra 1.5 hours on the ground in MIA. Total flight time including delay approximately 11 hrs.
 
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RE: Unusually Long Flights: Your Stories

Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:10 am

I was flying on China Airlines 747 from TPE to LAX. About an hour into the flight I dropped my drink in the center part between the two seats on the upper deck. Well, the IFE system went down, at least the whole upper deck. I had to get up while the FA tried to "dry" the area. I was the only non-asian looking person and they were saying really not nice things in Mandarin about the situation. I know because I can speak some Mandarin from growing up in Singapore. Then the FA told the entire upper deck what I had done. All of the anger turned from not having the IFE to me. It was not a good situation.

**Off Topic** I bought the one way business ticket from a travel agent in Saigon. It was USD $600 but the actual price listed on the paper ticket was $1,600. Anybody know why? I thought maybe business people ask for this so they can turn it in for reimbursement and make a quick $1,000.
 
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RE: Unusually Long Flights: Your Stories

Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:17 am

About 6 hours on DP from ACE to LGW.
Charter, ouch.
Flight was already delayed,a dn we had to land at STN for 2 hours whilst we waited for fog to clear at LGW.
Not the best of nights or flights.

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RE: Unusually Long Flights: Your Stories

Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:05 am

Last yr my cousins flight time from DTW-LAX was 5hr 40min. Very strong headwinds. This flight is usually around 4hrs
 
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RE: Unusually Long Flights: Your Stories

Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:11 am

Here's a few I can remember. I have included the longest and shortest flight times I have experienced for comparism.

LHR - LAX

Longest: 12Hrs 5 Mins (AA B763)
Shortest: 9Hrs 38 Mins (VS B744)

LHR - SFO

Longest: 11Hrs 55Mins (VS B742)
Shortest: 9 Hrs 27MINS (VS B744)

LGW - MCO

Longest: 9Hrs 20Mins
Shortest:7Hrs 49Mins (Both B744)

JFK - LHR

Longest: 7Hrs 25Mins (A343)
Shortest:5Hrs 25Mins (A346)

PVG - LHR

Longest: 13Hrs 10Mins (A343)
Shortest:10Hrs 55Mins (A346)

Those are a few that come to mind. Obviously the aircraft plays a small part in flying time but for the most part it was entirely down to wind.

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RE: Unusually Long Flights: Your Stories

Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:28 am

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 10):
Yesterday I flew from ATL-LAX on DL on a 767-400. The flight took 5 hours as opposed to the 4:10 it normally takes.

Great! The winter storms are making there way back I see with the crappy headwinds. I've got a few more client trips scheduled to SFO so I'm sure that already annoyingly long flight just got worse.

As for my longest flight it would have to be the few times I have flown EWR-SIN and back. The shortest I have done it was in 17.75 hours and the longest was about 19.5 when it is blocked for 18.5. It's just way too long to stay inside that little aluminum tube.
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RE: Unusually Long Flights: Your Stories

Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:40 am

Quoting SevenHeavy (Reply 16):
LHR - LAX

Longest: 12Hrs 5 Mins (AA B763)
Shortest: 9Hrs 38 Mins (VS B744)
Obviously the aircraft plays a small part in flying time

When dealing with differences like this, a huge part. The 763 cruise is like mach .82 and the 744 is like .88 which would slice a great deal of time off.
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RE: Unusually Long Flights: Your Stories

Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:23 am

Quoting Cessna057 (Reply 18):
When dealing with differences like this, a huge part. The 763 cruise is like mach .82 and the 744 is like .88 which would slice a great deal of time off.



Quoting SevenHeavy (Reply 16):
Obviously the aircraft plays a small part in flying time but for the most part it was entirely down to wind.

As I said  Wink. However your figures are a little off. A B744 actually cruises around M.085-M.086 (M.085 In Virgin's case). This is worth about 15-25 minutes on flights of this length so even allowing for this the difference is still over 2 hours.

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RE: Unusually Long Flights: Your Stories

Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:31 am

mine was on a US A330-300 flying FCO-PHL in January 2004. The flight took 10 HR 15 MIN opposed to the estimated 9Hrs due to strong headwinds.
 
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RE: Unusually Long Flights: Your Stories

Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:40 am

When Qantas still operated into Kuala Lumpur, I flew between Singapore and KUL on a 767 which took almost 2 hours to complete a flight that normally takes 45mins.

I remember thinking it unusual when the Airshow map which was fairly new in those days saw us heading up to Medan overflying KUL. The pilot then announced that there was a problem at KUL and we were going to hold up in the air for a while. We circled around Medan for a while and crew served us a snack and a short film (!) before we finally landed in KUL.

There was no further information as to the cause of the 'problem' until I got to a tv screen in KL city and saw on the news that the airport had closed due to a fire at the control tower. QF had made no announcement on landing nor gave any apology for the delay - it all seemed like a routine 2 hr flight to the crew... how odd...
 
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RE: Unusually Long Flights: Your Stories

Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:56 am

OMG! Please let me vent.. back in 1980 I volunteered to go to the refugee camps in northern Thailand and translate for the thousands of "Boat People" who had escaped Vietnam and were trying to get papers in order to come to other countries. I was asked by Food for the Hungry as well as UNHCR and the World Relief charity. The groups had charted a 747 from World Airlines, and all we had to do was get to Oakland and pay a $55 one way fare to cover food. Jesus! 480 people were going as far as HKG on a special $200 walk up fare, one way only. this was to cover the cost of getting this plane to BKK. I thought it would be empty! even brought a sleeping bag... I remember the Capt's name was Romano. seats so tiny and Packed tight! All signage was in six Asian languages. we took every inch of runway to get up, went to Alaska for gas, no getting off, stay in your seats! Then on to HKG but the crew said we needed to make a stop in Taiwan for gas because of excessive load and headwinds! I never felt the prolonged misery and despair of such a painful flight! Honest to God, it felt like we were in the air 30 hours! I honestly wanted to die! Taipei... stay in your seats again! we begged to get off and unfold but the gvt told the crew hell no, no visas, no notice we were coming, then to top this all off the Capt came on and said Oakland had to have a local contact rush to HK Peninsula and blew $500 on an overnight room! Ohhh thank you lawd for a hot bath, blind massage, and big bed! Next morning we were only a group of 36 flying on to BKK and I was pleased to be in the cockpit as we flew over my old area of operation in Vietnam, DaNang ATC was on the radio and to me that was way cool! When we landed we saw hundreds of refugees lined up with all they owned in plastic bags, ready to board for a new life in America! We went down the stairs and saw the return crew teaching people how to use diapers, and not to bring onboard anything that could make a flame! Just as soon as we were off, by the hundreds they piled on, and just like that that World Airways 747 was on it's way to HKG then OAK with Chinese, Vietnamese, Cambodian and hmoung. We were flown to Chon buri for 10 days of work, then allowed three days in Bangkok before we took a flight to Oakland. Still feel sick at the thought of this flight from hell! But proud when I meet a nurse, doctor, educator or other outstanding person who spent time in that camp.
 
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RE: Unusually Long Flights: Your Stories

Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:03 am

PHX-YVR in 16 hours due to Wx.
Even got to take a DC-10 from SEA-YVR as a part of the divert.

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RE: Unusually Long Flights: Your Stories

Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:41 pm

When I flew back on a VS A343 LAX-LHR it took an hour longer than scheduled, and we left on time too. Around about 12 hours 50 mins stuck on that plane!

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RE: Unusually Long Flights: Your Stories

Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:04 pm

Quoting Airbazar (Reply 4):
I don't often think of a hop across the pond as 10 hour flight

Thats what it takes to cross the pond from here...

I once was on a lifht BOG-ADZ which is supposed to be 1h25min and it took 2h10min....
 
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RE: Unusually Long Flights: Your Stories

Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:51 pm

Back in the early 1990s I flew from Newark to DFW for a job interview in Ft. Worth. The flight to Texas was unveventful. The return flight was memorable for its length. We were to depart DFW for EWR in the early evening, say 5:00 PM (I no longer recall exact times). The scheduled flight time was about 3:45, meaning we'd arrive in EWR around 9:45 PM. We pushed back and taxied toward the runway. We took off about 5:20 and headed east. About 2 hours into the flight the captain came on the PA to announce that due to severe weather in the Newark/New York area our arrival would be delayed. A short time later he came back on to tell us the weather front (very bad summer t-storms) had closed airports from the Washington, D.C. area all the way to Boston and we'd be circling over Raleigh, NC until the front passed. Eventually we did arrive in Newark after 1:00 AM, more than 3 hours late. Fortunately, this was during the time AA still served meals, so we got a dinner and free drinks. That help a lot!
 
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RE: Unusually Long Flights: Your Stories

Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:47 am

I flew twice with IZ (Arkia) from TLV to GRU (re-fuelling at TNF) on a 752 wich configuration is optimized for short charter flights. And yes...I was sitting in the midlle for 17 hours ! What a nightmare !

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