atlaaron
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Would You Buy A Ticket 1 Year In Advance?

Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:38 am

I plan on taking a trip about one year from now and was curious if you guys thought there was any point in buying the ticket this far in advance? The rate actually looks really good. Granted there will be schedule changes from now till then but that means I would be able to change flights without a fee right to whatever works?
 
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RE: Would You Buy A Ticket 1 Year In Advance?

Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:44 am

well depends on where you wanna go.
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atlaaron
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RE: Would You Buy A Ticket 1 Year In Advance?

Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:46 am

SFO from either CAK, PIT or CLE (whichever is cheapest which at the moment is PIT)
 
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RE: Would You Buy A Ticket 1 Year In Advance?

Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:47 am

Quoting ATLAaron (Thread starter):
Granted there will be schedule changes from now till then but that means I would be able to change flights without a fee right to whatever works?

Why would you not be charged a fee to change?

Depends on fare class and airline...not necessarily just coz you bought it 12 months in advance.

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RE: Would You Buy A Ticket 1 Year In Advance?

Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:50 am

Probably more trouble than its worth... My uncle bought a ticket 13 months in advance one time and the flight was discontinued then they had to change him to the next day then he figured out that it wouldnt fit his schedule... blah blah blah
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RE: Would You Buy A Ticket 1 Year In Advance?

Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:54 am

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 3):
Quoting ATLAaron (Thread starter):
Granted there will be schedule changes from now till then but that means I would be able to change flights without a fee right to whatever works?

Why would you not be charged a fee to change?

You won't get charged if a connection wouldn't work any longer (i.e. minimum connecting time not met any longer) - but if a flight moves from, let's say, 8am to 9am, then that option won't be available (unless, of course, the airline decides to offer it voluntarily).

In principle, I wouldn't say buying a ticket this far in advance is a bad idea - but I'd also say that if you're not planning on flying during some peak-season timeframe, I don't really see much of a rush.

Nonetheless - if the deal looks good, go for it.
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RE: Would You Buy A Ticket 1 Year In Advance?

Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:59 am

I'd say the chance of you having to change it, and pay for the change, outweigh the savings you make by booking this far in advance....unless the savings are much better than buying say 3 months in advance.


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RE: Would You Buy A Ticket 1 Year In Advance?

Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:02 pm

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 2):
SFO from either CAK, PIT or CLE (whichever is cheapest which at the moment is PIT)

if you choose PIT, then you can fly US nonstop

if you choose CLE, then you could do CO nonstop
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atlaaron
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RE: Would You Buy A Ticket 1 Year In Advance?

Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:06 pm

Quoting Walter747 (Reply 7):

if you choose PIT, then you can fly US nonstop

if you choose CLE, then you could do CO nonstop

I have a credit on UA to use, plus then I might catch a 777 from ORD-SFO.
 
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RE: Would You Buy A Ticket 1 Year In Advance?

Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:17 pm

yea cause you can connect from PIT-ORD via USX
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WDBRR
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RE: Would You Buy A Ticket 1 Year In Advance?

Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:59 pm

Quoting Cessna057 (Reply 4):
Probably more trouble than its worth... My uncle bought a ticket 13 months in advance one time and the flight was discontinued then they had to change him to the next day then he figured out that it wouldnt fit his schedule... blah blah blah

How can you buy an airline ticket 12 or 13 months in advance?
you can only book up to 330 days into the future !!!
I worked for an airline, it cannot be done.
 
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RE: Would You Buy A Ticket 1 Year In Advance?

Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:21 am

It'd probably actually be cheaper if you just waited unless you found that unbelievable all inclusive fare of $99.
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RE: Would You Buy A Ticket 1 Year In Advance?

Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:26 am

If you get a good fare, take it. I don't understand the "hassle" everyone is talking about. I have booked many tickets 11 months in advance. Yes, the schedule can change, but most airlines are very accomodating and won't charge you a fee. Just don't keep checking the flights every month or so - since schedules always change. Buy it and wait for a few months before travel date to consider if changes need to be made.
 
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RE: Would You Buy A Ticket 1 Year In Advance?

Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:26 am

Quoting Cessna057 (Reply 4):
My uncle bought a ticket 13 months in advance one time

Really???

Quoting WDBRR (Reply 10):
you can only book up to 330 days into the future !!!
I worked for an airline, it cannot be done.

Or less, sometimes much less than 330 days, if booking with one of the very small number of airlines who have not yet taken leave of common sense.

Quoting ATLAaron (Thread starter):
Granted there will be schedule changes from now till then but that means I would be able to change flights without a fee right to whatever works?

Depends on the airline. Policies vary considerably from one airline to another. Also, you have unwittingly made the case for why airlines should allow bookings no more than about 5 months in advance. Schedule changes and the predictable customer disservice resulting from same and the inordinate amount of time required from airline staff to resolve schedule change issues (ranging from "you ruined my vacation by changing my dep/arr times by 10 minutes" to the truly grotesque) create a lose-lose situation for an airline and their customers who book any more than about 2-3 months in advance.

You have also (probably unwittingly as well) made the case for why airlines charge change fees (plus, of course, any applicable fare difference). More and more, it seems, customers are making what amount to speculative bookings, with the mentality that seems to go something like: "I found a cheap fare for some dates and times I think I might be able to travel and bought the (non-refundable, restricted) ticket for those dates at the cheap fare. When I finally decide when I will really be traveling, I will change to the actual dates." In the meantime, seats that will never be occupied by the pax ticketed months in advance are not available to those who would have actually occupied the those seats, or are available only at higher fares. When speculative bookers decide when they really want to travel, they clog the phone lines of airlines to make changes (perhaps after attempting the change online and being overwhelmed by "sticker shock" when learning the total cost to change to their actual dates and/or times) only to learn that (yes, what you saw online is correct) the cost of speculative bookings is often quite high, at which time it becomes story time "I have to leave earlier on my trip to (some tropical paradise) due to a medical emergency" which keeps airline phone lines even more clogged. Once again, bottom line, it's a lose-lose for customers and airlines -- and co$tly for both -- when pax are allowed to book any more than about 5 months in advance, as speculative bookings are thereby encouraged all the more.

Don't blame customers nearly so much as I blame airlines for being so short-sighted and customer dis-service oriented by allowing bookings to be made as much as 330 days in advance.
 
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RE: Would You Buy A Ticket 1 Year In Advance?

Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:30 am

If it is a domestic flight then there is no point in buying 1 YEAR in advance. Maybe 4 or 5 months before. If it was international then yes, buying a ticket 1 year in advance is worth the money you will save. For example, I had an international flight that went like this:

On June 7, 2004

MCO-ATL DELTA
ATL-CDG AIR FRANCE
CDG-BEY AIR FRANCE

Bought it for 650.00 in December. My friend got it for 550.00 in November. The same flights and same date.
 
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RE: Would You Buy A Ticket 1 Year In Advance?

Fri Nov 03, 2006 2:03 am

I usually buy my tickets as soon as I am sure the trip will happen, particularly if I fear that the flight will get busy and the fares will go up, because I am usually not too flexible on the dates and times.

Only exception: when fares are stupid high like $500+ for a 2-hour flight, then I wait a bit because it cannot get up that much further and I start thinking of alternative solutions (drive, other airline or routing, miles, etc...)

If you have a voucher from UA that may expire soon, it might indeed make a lot of sense to use it now...
 
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RE: Would You Buy A Ticket 1 Year In Advance?

Fri Nov 03, 2006 2:05 am

Quoting ATLAaron (Thread starter):
Would You Buy A Ticket 1 Year In Advance?

Pretty simple answer for me... Never.

For me it's usually the opposite I buy it like right before I fly. The earliest i bought a ticket before a flight was 3 months I believe. As plans can change, I think 1 year if FAR too in advance.

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RE: Would You Buy A Ticket 1 Year In Advance?

Fri Nov 03, 2006 2:17 am

Quoting Tango-Bravo (Reply 13):
Quoting WDBRR (Reply 10):
you can only book up to 330 days into the future !!!
I worked for an airline, it cannot be done.

Or less, sometimes much less than 330 days, if booking with one of the very small number of airlines who have not yet taken leave of common sense.

Airlines using Amadeus can be booked up to 360 days in advance - it's just the older systems (Sabre, Galileo, Worldspan) that haven't caught up to AMA yet... and while I still hope that they'll manage to do so sometime soon, I, unfortunately, have my doubts about that.
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RE: Would You Buy A Ticket 1 Year In Advance?

Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:07 am

Quoting WDBRR (Reply 10):
How can you buy an airline ticket 12 or 13 months in advance?
you can only book up to 330 days into the future !!!
I worked for an airline, it cannot be done.

It was 12 or 13. I remmeber the fiasco.
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RE: Would You Buy A Ticket 1 Year In Advance?

Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:19 am

Quoting Cessna057 (Reply 18):
It was 12 or 13. I remmeber the fiasco.

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RE: Would You Buy A Ticket 1 Year In Advance?

Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:40 am

Quoting CuriousFlyer (Reply 15):
I usually buy my tickets as soon as I am sure the trip will happen

Yeah, our family had been thinkin about taking a Spring Break trip down to Florida for the first week in March and once we knew who was all going, then we booked G4 LAN-PIE on March 1 and then SFB-LAN on the 10th
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RE: Would You Buy A Ticket 1 Year In Advance?

Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:55 am

Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Reply 20):
SFB-LAN

Was it cheaper than MCO?
 
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RE: Would You Buy A Ticket 1 Year In Advance?

Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:28 am

international-yes

domestic-no
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RE: Would You Buy A Ticket 1 Year In Advance?

Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:14 am

I'd only do it for international. I have got in the habit of waiting until about a few weeks or a month or so before hte departure and that leaves me with very few options and someitmes the fares aren't where I expected them and since international flights are expensive to start with you want to get the best deal you can. When we went to Australia we booked the first day that we were able to. However watch out for connections because you may get a schedule change that makes the connection impossible.
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RE: Would You Buy A Ticket 1 Year In Advance?

Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:29 am

I havn't actually bought a ticket that was not to be used for a whole year, but I have bought a few round the world tickets (which are valid for an entire year) and booked my last flight on them on what would be more than a year away.

My first round the world ticket was a Qantas/ British Airways ticket that I bought in October 2001. It commenced in January 2002, and the last date I could fly back on was during January of the next year, 2003. I think I had originally booked it to fly back to Sydney before christmas 2002. Of course as with round the world tickets it is possible to change the dates of your flight and I did in fact push my last flight, from Buenos Aires to Sydney on Qantas, back to the 13th of January 2003.

About six months after I booked the ticket, Qantas pulled out of the route as LanChile, a OneWorld partner, started flying from Santiago to Sydney. Qantas obviously then just decided it was better to codeshare through Lan Chile. Anyone who was to be flying from Buenos Aires to Sydney would of course have to take a LanChile flight to Santiago and then connect to the trans-pacific flight from there.

I was over course re-booked to fly on LanChile from Buenos Aires with the connection in Santiago. I can't quite remeber how I found about this, but I'm pretty sure I found out about this on my own i.e. as far I know Qantas didn't do anything to me aware of the change. So if you do book a ticket a year in advance it's a good thing to keep up to date on the changes yourself.
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RE: Would You Buy A Ticket 1 Year In Advance?

Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:28 pm

Quoting Cessna057 (Reply 18):
It was 12 or 13. I remmeber the fiasco.

if the airlines allowed people to book 12 or 13 months in avance it.. would
cause alot of confusion....I can see a reservation sales agent ask:
"Are you looking to fly Thanksgiving 2006 or Thanksgiving 2007 ?"
another thing is the gate agents would need to double check the
tickets for the year...not that someone buys a ticket for 11/05/07
for a cheaper fare and tries to fly on 11/05/06.
 
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RE: Would You Buy A Ticket 1 Year In Advance?

Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:30 pm

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 3):
Why would you not be charged a fee to change?

Because the airline changes his flight times. If the times are changed more than a 90 minutes I believe then you can change one time without penalty.
Aaron if the fare looks good than purchase the ticket. Keep in mind that airlines will usually set the fares high when bookin gso far in advance. What you should do is compare a fare say a month from now and then compare one for your dates of travel that will tell you if the airlines has set the fares buckets high. I notice that the cheap fares show up about 90-100 days from travel.
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RE: Would You Buy A Ticket 1 Year In Advance?

Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:34 pm

Quoting WDBRR (Reply 25):
if the airlines allowed people to book 12 or 13 months in avance it.

but they do!!! In answer to the original question I have booked up to 12 months in advance but only if:

1) I know I'm definatly making the tripl and
2) The airline is stable i.e it will still be around in 12 months!
 
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RE: Would You Buy A Ticket 1 Year In Advance?

Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:04 pm

Many people organise their long haul frequent flyer tix 11 1/2 months ahead !!!

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