dmanmtl
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JFK-SFO - UAL Or AA Biz Class...help Me Decide

Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:17 am

I have to fly from JFK to SFO in mid Nov. I usually Fly AC (I am in YUL) and have not tried any of the USA based airlines.

My company Allows biz class for a flight over 6 hours so I am curious to know which of these two airlines (or is there another I am missing) offers the best service, most comfortable seat and which one am I going to enjoy trying.

I have never flown a 757 so UA is looking interesting plus I get AC points (star alliance) but am trying to be open minded...

Help me out here!

D
 
N62NA
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RE: JFK-SFO - UAL Or AA Biz Class...help Me Decide

Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:34 am

If I were you, I would take UA, just to gather up the points.

You'll be on a narrowbody 757 on UA instead of a widebody 767 on AA, but if being on a narrowbody for 6 hours doesn't bother you, go with UA.

Plus, you'll get to try out UA's ps product!
 
ChiGB1973
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RE: JFK-SFO - UAL Or AA Biz Class...help Me Decide

Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:36 am

Quoting N62NA (Reply 1):
you'll get to try out UA's ps product!

Oh yeah, I would do this just to check out the full biz class 752 though living in CHI, UA is my preferred airline.

Have a great trip no matter what you chose.

M
 
Bicoastal
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RE: JFK-SFO - UAL Or AA Biz Class...help Me Decide

Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:38 am

Move to the Aviation Polls and Preferences forum.
Airliners.net has many forums. It has spell check and search functions. Use them before posting!
 
Evan767
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RE: JFK-SFO - UAL Or AA Biz Class...help Me Decide

Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:39 am

Well, if you're going to settle for a 757, do Delta.
The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
 
planecrazy2
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RE: JFK-SFO - UAL Or AA Biz Class...help Me Decide

Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:42 am

United offers the edge in Business here. You get the international product and your own dvd player.
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dmanmtl
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RE: JFK-SFO - UAL Or AA Biz Class...help Me Decide

Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:46 am

Thanks for all the fast replys - I was going to ask about video on these planes - after a ecent experience on the AC Embraers I am now spolied by their great video system.

Evan - why do you suggest Delta - I thought they were somewhat second rate/vacationers airline (no intention to offend anyone with this comment)

D
 
Evan767
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RE: JFK-SFO - UAL Or AA Biz Class...help Me Decide

Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:53 am

I find DL's 757 F seats very comfortable. The main reason though is the Delta service. Flight attendants are the best on DL.
The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
 
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RE: JFK-SFO - UAL Or AA Biz Class...help Me Decide

Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:15 am

Quoting Dmanmtl (Reply 6):
Thanks for all the fast replys - I was going to ask about video on these planes - after a ecent experience on the AC Embraers I am now spolied by their great video system.

Go with UA, they have personal DVD players, excellent seats and from what I've heard, better food than Delta. Also, they have 15in(31cm)more legroom than Delta. www.unitedps.com

[Edited 2006-11-04 03:15:30]

[Edited 2006-11-04 03:25:21]
 
comorin
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RE: JFK-SFO - UAL Or AA Biz Class...help Me Decide

Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:16 am

I flew UA last year in Biz and was really impressed. I would strongly recommend the product - it's easily up to international standards.
 
jacobin777
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RE: JFK-SFO - UAL Or AA Biz Class...help Me Decide

Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:28 am

AA is the leading carrier from JFK to both SFO/LAX..you would either get a 762 or a 763...I've flown AA from SFO-JFK-SFO....good service..but if your are looking for milage points, then I would go with UA....
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laca773
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RE: JFK-SFO - UAL Or AA Biz Class...help Me Decide

Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:45 am

DManMTL,
For me, this one is pretty easy to decide. UA p.s. all the way. Yes. They don't utilize 762s on this routing anymore, but there 752s that are specially configured for this premium market is a real treat. It almost feels like you're in a private jet and the service is up to international standards.
In regards to inflight service, meals, etc., this too is easy to choose. UA again. Much better than AA by any mark. Flight crews seem to be consistently good, not like on AA where you'll get a decent cabin crew on ocasion, rather than the norm.
Since you belong to AC frequent flyer program/Star Alliance, you'll get your mileage and I believe bonus miles for flying J.
Let us know what you decide.

LACA773
 
Pilot3033
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RE: JFK-SFO - UAL Or AA Biz Class...help Me Decide

Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:56 am

Not sure about J class, but I mentioned in other threads that I prefer AA F on these routes. I've always had better service in flight.
Can't speak for J though. Didn't AA recently update their J?
-Matt
 
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RE: JFK-SFO - UAL Or AA Biz Class...help Me Decide

Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:05 pm

If you are getting miles definately go with United. United does have better seats and legroom than American and Delta in all classes. Delta has much less legroom, although has a better crew than United and American. United has much better Flight Attendant service than American but not Delta. To me Delta is the best if you are just talking about Flight Attendant hospitality, but everything else has another opinion. United is the way to go in your situation.  Smile
 
xpfg
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RE: JFK-SFO - UAL Or AA Biz Class...help Me Decide

Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:16 pm

The UA P.S. product is REALLY nice and by far my favorite. I have flown both AA and UA on these routes, been in all 3 classes on UA, and 2 on AA, and really do like the P.S. product over the two airlines. If it were standard UA F class vs. AA, I would say to go with AA, but when you throw UA P.S. in there, it's a new ball game. Very nice seats!
 
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RE: JFK-SFO - UAL Or AA Biz Class...help Me Decide

Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:46 pm

In the Dinosaur years, the airlines had different aircraft with different levels of service on the trans-con. IIRC, both UA and AA had DC-7's flying a first class service (Red Carpet/Mercury??) and the DC-6B's flying a more economical flight (a bit longer flying time and more passengers). I don't know if the 6's could do w/b non-stop, but the DC-7's were the luxury plane of it's day. Not a great seller for Douglas, but a prestigious product. United's west coast/Honolulu first class service was part of this. The DC-6 series was popular plane - more economical than the DC-7 series.

Looks as though another cycle in inflight service is starting. UA's "p.s." service has the biggest feedback. And all positive. A specially configured aircraft for a niche market.

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laca773
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RE: JFK-SFO - UAL Or AA Biz Class...help Me Decide

Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:01 pm

Also check out TR's in the trip reports section. Just do a search for LAX/SFO-JFK and back transcons.

LACA773
 
B707Stu
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RE: JFK-SFO - UAL Or AA Biz Class...help Me Decide

Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:53 pm

Though I'm an X-AA employee I'd say UA all the way. For the PS intimacy of the 757 cabin and of course, channel 9!
 
DALelite
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RE: JFK-SFO - UAL Or AA Biz Class...help Me Decide

Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:20 am

I would go for UA.

regards: DALelite
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levg79
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RE: JFK-SFO - UAL Or AA Biz Class...help Me Decide

Sun Nov 05, 2006 10:17 am

As B707Stu has already mentioned, having access to Channel 9 should be enough to convince you to choose UA. Also, we all expect to see a TR after your trip  Smile

Leo.
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TACAA320
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RE: JFK-SFO - UAL Or AA Biz Class...help Me Decide

Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:41 pm

I just prefer UA over AA.

Check fares, and try to be loyal to your FF program. The more you use it, the more you'll be rewarded.
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dmanmtl
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RE: JFK-SFO - UAL Or AA Biz Class...help Me Decide

Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:39 am

Thanks for all your input - I decided on United based on the feedback here about their PS product and the fact that I get enough airmiles with Aeroplan to get me into the elite club for next year.

Of the three airlines I checked out - the prices varied wildly, with Delta being the cheapest, however judging from the stats on their seats, the pitch is much less than United, to AA which was the most expensize...I realize there are a myriad of factors that contro this ... I just found it interesting.

Cheers to All

D In Mtl
 
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RE: JFK-SFO - UAL Or AA Biz Class...help Me Decide

Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:42 am

Quoting DMANMTL (Reply 21):
I decided on United

Good choice !

Enjoy your trip.
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