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The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Merger?

Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:38 am

This is the poll of the decade: are you pro-DL/US merger or anti-DL/US merger?

I am totally anti-DL/US merger. Fleet would be a nightmare, Delta employees will suffer, and would probably put Delta in Star Alliance. Not to mention US Airways has already ordered the A350?
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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:51 am

I would be personaly against it.

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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:39 am

I am completly against a merger. US just wan'ts to get rid off Delta this way.

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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:28 am

I'm against the merger. HP/US can't finish their merger from a year ago so they should focus on that versus trying to get DL.

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
would probably put Delta in Star Alliance.

That might not be a bad thing though SkyTeam has worked pretty good for me so far.
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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:41 am

IMHO, DL and US merging is a terrible idea.

First of all, fleet commonality is almost non-existent. MD80's, classic 737's, 737NG, A320, 752, 767, A330, 777, and A350 on order. Integration on DL Connection and US Express would be a disaster as well.

The networks have to much overlap. The result would be overkill on the East Coast and in the West, while neglecting the Midwest and Heartland. Internationally, there would still be no strong network in Asia.

There are to many hubs and focuses to deal with. Sure, they can be removed, but it would be a disaster.

US and HP just completed a merger and should concentrate on finishing that one.

Finally, the consequences for the employees would be immense.

IMO we are looking at a merger that makes even AA and TWA look like a wonderful idea. ( Even though this would have worked if it weren't for 9/11.)


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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:08 am

If this merger happens, I believe it will eventually be diasterous for the final product. Many hard working people will be hurt only so a few can line their pocket$.
 
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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:18 am

Terrible idea. Both companies would have to invest huge amounts of money (which is not their biggest asset right now) and resources and the benefits would probably come too late to save the new company from bankruptcy.

Plus there are big cons like:

mayor hub overlapping (ATL/CLT, JFK/PHL, SLC/LAS/PHX), US would probably loos a lot here
fleets! (completely different)
regional carrier networks (huge overlapping on the east coast)

I personally think it will never happen.
 
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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:01 pm

Anti

'Nuff said!

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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:35 pm

I am also against.


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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:34 pm

Against.

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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:12 am

I am against the merger. As I have indicated on numerous threads, I lament the demise of the unique airline cultures that once existed. Most mergers have given us large bland mega carriers. Bring back the days of PSA, Western...
 
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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:32 am

Neutral...I don't see what DL will gain and US will gain...On top of that, US/HP can't even get there own crap settled.
 
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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:39 am

I've been anti since the first leak was issued by Parker's obtrusive ego. Everything everybody has said so far in regards to the merger I believe is correct and include the reasons why I disaprove of said merger.

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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:25 am

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
This is the poll of the decade

I hope this was written with tongue in cheek. In the scheme of things in life, this doesn't rate very high.

As for the poll, I'm in favor.
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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:40 am

I am anti. Dornier328Jet ( reply #4) pretty much has covered the reasons why I think it would be a bad merger.
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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Sat Nov 18, 2006 10:59 am

100% Against the merger.
 
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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:18 pm

I am against it. US should complete the merger process and get it over with, while staying profitable for a while. Even though they recently made decent profits, theres still stuff to be worked out. Its kindof bad enough they had to go through this with HP, but now its happening again??this time with DL?. This is too much.

On the other hand, DL is getting back on its feet, with a planned emergence out of BK sometime in early 2007. I would think they have been making progress....with all the international routes they just started, the newly added Dash-8s, and the expansion of JFK.

these are two airlines who have been struggling, and are making a turn for the better (hopefully)...why screw it up now and do something like this?
 
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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Sun Nov 19, 2006 2:48 am

I AM AGAINST THE MERGER!!!
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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Sun Nov 19, 2006 3:30 am

AGAINST! If it goes through, my mother could lose her precious job at Delta that she's had since 1998!
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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:11 am

Im against it 100%. Doug already Lowered the standards of US he dosent need to do the same to DL.There is no reason US F/A's should be the lowest paid behind NW when NW is in CH. 11. Parker needs to finish up his first merger befo re getting all worked up about another.
 
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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:16 am

I'm very much against it!

If US wants to merge with someone they should merge with NW and/or UA (DoJ seems to be more merger-friendly than six years ago... at least if other mergers are going on at the same time). US/DL is a BAD idea!
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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:36 am

No mergers for me !  thumbsdown They never seem to bring the savings as promoted by the spin masters. I would prefer an asset sale to bidding parties. Yes, jobs are lost but that's what normally happens anyways. What is left for TWA employees after AA cleaned house?
 
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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:36 pm

My gut instinct says this is a bad idea. I know I don't have access to all the numbers and the exact deals between DL's creditors and our offers, but there's a real fishy smell to this deal. I'm rooting for it not to go through, and that we focus on finishing this first merger and making that as great of a success as it can be. DL's strong opposition to the idea makes me not want it to happen. I've never flown on DL, have never had any beefs with the airline, so I don't want our airline to cannibalize their situation if they are not as willing as we are.
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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:21 pm

against it.

i have nothing against the folks over at USAirways, but hope they successfully complete their current merger and the issues associated before reaking havoc on another carrier.

plus i'm a loyal Delta fan.

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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:27 pm

I am 100% FOR the merger. I think it is both brilliant and needed.

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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:00 am

Quoting SonOfACaptain (Reply 24):
I am 100% FOR the merger. I think it is both brilliant and needed.

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Couldn't be because you're from USAirways bretheren?
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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:08 pm

Against. I smell thousands of f***ed over employees and two airlines off the table.
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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Sun Nov 26, 2006 5:51 pm

Chalk me up for AGAINST.

US needs to finish merging with HP. DL is too big of an airline to immerse themselves into, there's no fleet commonality, the networks overlap, etc.

Plus, honestly, I LIKE seeing DL 767s at SAN. I LIKE seeing US/HP A321s when I go down there. From a spotting standpoint I'm even against it.

Let the 2 airlines be, both are beginning to do well again for the 1st time in years, why destroy 2 good things?
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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Sun Nov 26, 2006 5:54 pm

100% Against the merger.

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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:26 am

Quoting SonOfACaptain (Reply 24):
I am 100% FOR the merger. I think it is both brilliant and needed.

I'm not sure why. Your Daddy will have less of a chance of ever getting his precious job at US back with the merged company. That Kool-Aid your drinking must be some pretty good sh!t.

My vote (as if it matters) - NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:19 pm

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 25):
Couldn't be because you're from USAirways bretheren?



Quoting Dl757md (Reply 29):
I'm not sure why. Your Daddy will have less of a chance of ever getting his precious job at US back with the merged company. That Kool-Aid your drinking must be some pretty good sh!t.

Well, maybe that is the difference between me and many others out there. I am not looking at this from a personal view. What I see in this merger is a chain reaction of further mergers, which will reduce competition and capacity, which will only stabilize the industry, and perhaps, return it to being a heathy airlines. There is no reason America needs eight major airlines competiting against each other. We are not that big.

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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:59 pm

Quoting SonOfACaptain (Reply 30):
There is no reason America needs eight major airlines competiting against each other. We are not that big.

I agree with that. But this merger is not about creating a stronger healthier airline. It is about eliminating a resurgent competitor of an airline that is clearly not as strong. Make no mistake SOAC Delta people, of which I am one (so this is personal), do not want this and will not cooperate even at the expense of their own jobs. So even if it goes through you will only be left with a very few people who give a damn and in a customer service oriented business that is the last thing you want. It won't work. The merged airline will fail and I have sacrificed too much and worked too hard to contribute to Delta's turnaround to let some shortsighted money grabbers scuttle it.

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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:05 am

Anti.


The message you were about to post is too short and probably not of any higher value to the topic at hand. I disagree....I'm contibuting my vote to a poll. All votes are of value.
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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:41 pm

DL should remain a stand-alone independent carrier in charge of its own destiny.

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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:55 pm

Terrible idea.

1) Massive hub overlap (JFK/PHL, ATL/CLT, SLC/LAS/PHX)
2) Totally different fleets - only common types are 757 and 737 (but that's a stretch too, considering that US operates the classic 737 and DL operates NG).
3) DL is weak in Asia; US has no presence. The combined carrier would still be very weak in Asia. Plus, US is weak just about anywhere outside of the Northeastern USA and Phoenix, but DL is very strong in the Northeast, and has a strong presence in the Mountain West (not PHX, but very close).

This "merger" is designed to eliminate a competitor. Makes no sense from a business standpoint whatsoever.
 
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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:00 am

Dead set against this proposed merger because it gives way too much control of the East Coast (B6, FL and/or WN don't necessarily fly everywhere) to one airline.
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RE: The Poll Of The Decade: Pro- Or Anti-DL/US Mer

Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:03 am

I'll make this short:
Worst.Merger.Proposal.Ever.

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