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Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline......

Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:35 am

If you had a choice of two specific aircraft, not families, which would you go with? Remember, specific model of aircraft.

Domestic -

Would have to be the 737-700ER. Range, flexibility being the strong points.

International -

I'd go with the 787-9. Not the biggest, but definitely has the range.

[Edited 2007-02-02 17:36:13]
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:41 am

Boeing 777-200LR and Airbus A318.
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:03 am

Domestic--

E190

International --

767-300ER

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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:51 am

Domestic = E190
International = A319

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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:51 am

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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:53 am

Domestic: DC-9-32
International: 757-200 (will be also used on high-density and transcontinental routes)
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:31 am

I don't think you could run a 'full coverage' airline (regional, short haul & intercontinental) on just two fleet types, so I'll take two examples each with a different business model, based in the UK:

Airline 1; European & Regional Routes:

- DeHavilland Dash8-400
- Airbus A320-200

Airline 2; European Feeder & Intercontinental Routes:

- Airbus A320-200
- Boeing B777-200ER

Preferably hang on for the anticipated A320-NG model.

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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:41 am

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 6):
I don't think you could run a 'full coverage' airline (regional, short haul & intercontinental) on just two fleet types, so I'll take two examples each with a different business model, based in the UK:

I can think of three US domestic airlines that rely on either two or one fleet type and they are Spirit, AirTran, and SunCountry.

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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:35 am

I can think of three US domestic airlines that rely on either two or one fleet type and they are Spirit, AirTran, and SunCountry.[/quote]

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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:42 am

Domestic: E-195
International: 747-8
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:41 am

Quoting XJRamper (Reply 7):
I can think of three US domestic airlines that rely on either two or one fleet type and they are Spirit, AirTran, and SunCountry.



Quoting Bridogger6 (Reply 8):
Don't forget jetBlue

Frontier (A318, A319)
Hawaiian (B763, B717)
Aloha (B732, B73G)
USA 3000 (A320-212, A320-214) - not sure if these count as different types or not.

I think Sun Country and possibly USA 3000 are the only scheduled mainline airlines in the U.S. to operate only one specific fleet type.

To answer the question, I would use the 737-700ER and the 787-8.

[Edited 2007-02-02 22:42:55]
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:40 am

This would also be dependant on where abouts you are operating and what kind of operation you have. But I would choose the 747-800 and 787-800.
 
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:47 am

Currently
International: 777-200LR
Domestic: 737-700ER

Future
International: 747-800
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:52 am

Short Haul
Boeing 737-800

Long haul
Boeing 787-9
 
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:57 am

748 for International

and

739ER for Domestic...at least until the Next Generation Composite 737 comes out.

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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:16 am

When I win the Lottery, my new "AirCal" (if that name is even legal to use)

-Bombardier Dash 8 series Q200 for 1 hour or less flights in to small airports
-Bombardier CRJ-700

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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:49 am

A319 for Domestic/International Medium/Short Haul

787 for Domestic TransCons, and International Long Haul
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:52 am

Q400 and 737-700 and, if international, 777-200ER.
 
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:10 am

Domestic:

737-800 w/APB winglets

International:

747-8

what more can i say?


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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:06 am

Domestic: Airbus A319 or Boeing 737-700

International: A330-200 or B777-200ER
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:14 am

For a domestic US carrier that is just starting out and would need to acquire aircraft quickly at a cheap price, I would use the MD-90-30 for the majority of the routes and the 752 for the higher density routes.
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:46 pm

How can anyone pick the 787 for their fleet when its not flying yet.  scratchchin  It's call an airline without any revenue coming in.
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:54 pm

767 and the Embraer 195.
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:17 pm

Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 10):
Frontier (A318, A319)

Whoops! I forgot about Frontier JetExpress so I guess they really have three once you count the CRJ-700s.
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:11 pm

737-800 and 767-300. Two planes with good range but not to big, So the 767 could do Transcon like MIA-LAX and the 738 could do PDX-JFK or 767 for long hauls too.
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:26 pm

International/Europe: Boeing 737-500

Intercontinental: Airbus 330-300
 
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:05 pm

For their markets a single or very few fleet types works perfectly...

Quoting XJRamper (Reply 7):
I can think of three US domestic airlines that rely on either two or one fleet type and they are Spirit, AirTran, and SunCountry.

...but you didn't actually read what I had written;

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 6):
I don't think you could run a 'full coverage' airline (regional, short haul & intercontinental) on just two fleet types

For regional services within a European country you require a small regional jet or prop to serve the many airports with restrictive runways. With the current emphasis on the environment, the DHC8-400 is ideal for this type of sector, however it's suitability for say inter-European flights drops rapidly once you're talking about sectors in the region of 2-3 hours, hence you need a short-medium range jet like the A320. Neither of these though are suitable for long haul, so you require a third fleet type for this; the 772ER.

That's what I meant by stating you could not operate a stand alone 'full coverage' airline (may not be the correct term, but one operating short, medium and long haul flights) from within Europe, using only two aircraft types.

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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:58 pm

Domestic:
Airbus A319LR
Boeing 757-200

International:
Airbus A340-300X
Boeing 777-200 (Not -ER or -LR)
 
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:17 am

Interesting... no A380s. Does everyone really think this aircraft is that limited in what it can do? Or are you all operating long and thin routes?  Silly
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:59 am

737-800 W/Winglets
777-200LR to be replaced by 787-8
 
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:07 pm

Domestic:

Dash 8 Q400
or
CRJ-700

International:

MD-11
or
Boeing 767-300ER
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:05 pm

Hmmm... Two options for this:

USA/Canada: Embraer 190
International: B767-300ER

or

Europe: B737-800
Intercontinental: B777-200ER
 
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:30 pm

if picking aircraft currently in service:

737-800 and 767-300ER
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Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:29 am

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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Tue Feb 06, 2007 5:14 am

Tough one. Well, for my ficticious airline Deskflier Baltic Airways I would choose:

Feeder: LET L410

Hub-to-hub: Embraer ERJ-190

For my other airline, Deskflier EuroCharter the choices are as follows:

Passenger: Airbus A330-300

Freight: Lockheed L-100J (Yes, the civilian C-130J-30)
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:15 am

A380VIP (for the major airports) and 787VIP (for the minor airports).

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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:43 am

Domestic: 757
International: 777 & 757
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:24 am

Domestic: B737-700
International : A330-200
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:50 am

Boeing 737-800 for my domestic routes and a B767-200ER for my trans-Atlantic ones!  Wink

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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:50 am

I'd take 737-800 and A340-600 and be a very happy man.
 
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:05 pm

Domestic:
Two-aisle aircraft - Airbus 333

International:
Two aisle aircraft - Boeing 787-800 and Boeing 747-800
one aisle aircraft - Boeing 737-800
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Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:25 am

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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:13 am

Domestic: 757-200
International: 767-400
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:12 pm

I'd choose the 753 for domestic (what the hell, this is fantasy, right?) and for international/long haul I'd go for the A346. What can I say, I'm a fan of the limousine look.

[Edited 2007-02-13 14:13:39]
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:47 pm

Domestic: B772ER
International: A346

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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:58 pm

For me it would be....

Shorthaul and regional.

Avro 146.... could fly into any regional hub with shorter runways and noise restrictions whilst keeping higher load factors....

lnternational and longhaul.

Boeing 777-200

Out of interest, no one seems to be picking the A340. Is it really that unattractive to have in your fleet compared to say a T7. Wonder why Mr Branson uses them so much?

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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:27 am

The Boeing 737-700 wingleted.

Great aircraft, for my hub in NYC.
 
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:16 am

Tough question, as it would depend on what my international routes would be.

Domestic: 737-800

European: 767-400
Pacific:777-200LR
 
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:34 am

When I get rich and bring back TWA and only have two types of A/C we will either utilize....

Airbus:
A319 & A350

Boeing:
717-200 or 737-700ER
787-8
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RE: Choose Only Two Airliners For Your Airline....

Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:20 am

short haul: 757-300 with 10x's more first class with TV's on the back of the seats.

long haul: A340-600, if it can fly from thailand to the USA it has to get the job done.
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