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Bulkhead Seat In Business Class, Good Or Bad?

Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:12 am

After flying a number of times with various airlines in C Class I have come to realise that adquiring a bulkhead seat is not always favourable. Naturally the bulkhead is a premium when flying in Economy, however,for airlines like UA on their 777's the plastic wall which divides the First and Business cabin at the front of the aircraft and similarly the first row in the main Business Cabin has slightly less legroom. However, some aircraft configs do reward some bulkhead seats in C- Class with extra legroom, 747 Emergency Exit rows are a suitable example, the cabin layouts of some aircraft actual cut a few inches off the standard legroom. Understandibly this done to maximise cabin and plane capacity.

Has anyone ever found that their C Class bulkhead seat has either rewarded them additional legroom or has actually cut off a few precious inches one expects in the published seat pitch?

I am flying on a Lufthansa 343 (2 class config) in C Class and have been pre asigned 1C however, I am wondering if the Bulkhead on LH is going to short fall the standard legroom of 60inches. Additionally there is a smaller Business cabin of just two rows, and I am contemplating requesting seats in that cabin. Can anyone who has been on this aircraft shed any light on the legroom of any LH Bulkhead seats in Business Class?

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RE: Bulkhead Seat In Business Class, Good Or Bad?

Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:32 am

The Bulkhead in business class is less than ideal. I prefer a few rows further back.
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RE: Bulkhead Seat In Business Class, Good Or Bad?

Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:00 am

Quoting AerorobNZ (Reply 1):
The Bulkhead in business class is less than ideal. I prefer a few rows further back.

Agree, I never choose a seat near the bulkhead in C/F......

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RE: Bulkhead Seat In Business Class, Good Or Bad?

Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:51 am

I tend to prefer bulkhead seats because there is no possibilty of the pax in front of you reclining into "your space." So even if you lose a few inches in pitch, you still gain in overall personal space. I fly almost exclusively on UA and have personally never flown C on LH, so unfortunately can't offer specific advice there. However, the definitive answer for a particular airline/plane configuration should be www.seatguru.com.

But where ever you sit in C it's a far cry better than coach!

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RE: Bulkhead Seat In Business Class, Good Or Bad?

Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:40 am

Quoting Planegeek (Reply 3):
However, the definitive answer for a particular airline/plane configuration should be www.seatguru.com.

Copy that.

Like the others stated before, also I try to stay away from bulkhead seats (and from the galley and the toilets) ...
Valid for longhaul: As I pay $$$$ for the seat, I try to max out the comfort I get, thus trying to reserve specific seats upfront.

In Y I also try to avoid the Exit rows on those a/c where the tray table is in the armrest thus making the seat even less wide (okay, might be my particular problem  Wink )
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RE: Bulkhead Seat In Business Class, Good Or Bad?

Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:43 pm

normally i try to avoid the bulkheads in premium cabin because as you've said, the legroom isn't too good. however on cx, if you look to the far right of this photo, the bulkhead seats are fitted with the back of a mock seat and screen

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RE: Bulkhead Seat In Business Class, Good Or Bad?

Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:56 pm

I can't stand bulkheads that extend the TV almost out of visibility.  yell 
 
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RE: Bulkhead Seat In Business Class, Good Or Bad?

Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:50 pm

Open this link and check out the legroom at this LH Bulkhead!

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1033335/M/

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RE: Bulkhead Seat In Business Class, Good Or Bad?

Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:09 am

Quoting Paul (Reply 7):
Open this link and check out the legroom at this LH Bulkhead!

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1...35/M/



Well im inclined or should i say reclined to agree with Paul.

I recently flew with Swiss from ZCH-LAX on their new A340-300's and was assigned a bulkhead seat right before first class and i thought there was as much room if not a little more then those seats behind me. I rarely travel business so its a treat for me to get so much room as opposed to being cramped in Economy.

Ahh looking at those seats makes me want to take to the skys..........

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RE: Bulkhead Seat In Business Class, Good Or Bad?

Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:11 am

what i meant to add in my previous post is that LH and Swiss are of a similar layout to each other.

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RE: Bulkhead Seat In Business Class, Good Or Bad?

Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:29 am

I was in the bulkhead row on a 3 class 343 and there was a cut out in the bulkhead for your feet to fit in so legroom was fine.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1033335/M/

In this photo, if you compare the alignment of the windows you can see that legroom is the same ( as the legs slide under the seat in front). There is also a larger centre console as these seats have retractable IFE screens.

I'm sure you'll have a good trip.
PS the slightly off flat sleep position (press the flat seat button, then keep it pressed down once the seat is flat) is much more comfortable for sleeping than fully flat.

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RE: Bulkhead Seat In Business Class, Good Or Bad?

Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:20 pm

Thanks for the tip Chris. The legroom as you said does look the same as the seat behind, I am 6ft 3 so need as much legroom as I can get. I assume you have flown on LH's new product. What did you think of it, service and food esp? How were the lounges at FRA, can u recommend me one, there are about 4 and I hear some of them are pretty crap..........?

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RE: Bulkhead Seat In Business Class, Good Or Bad?

Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:29 pm

Quoting Paul (Thread starter):
Has anyone ever found that their C Class bulkhead seat has either rewarded them additional legroom or has actually cut off a few precious inches one expects in the published seat pitch?

I've found it can be a good or bad thing.

Good: BA Club World bulkhead seats mean you don't have to climb over the neighbour to get out and you also get a few inches extra to stretch into when asleep...

Bad: On one United flight I had too much legroom (longhaul 763). If I had anything in the seat pocket I had to get up and retrieve it. The seats beside the window had the best compromise. Then since UA don't close the curtains anymore we got a 'Here's what you could have won' experience seeing the First Class service performed right in front of us.... biggrin 

AA 767-200s in First Class have a large difference in legroom depending on whether you go for row 2 or 3 as you can see from the photo below. Row 3 has acres of space (I think 60" pitch) which was very enjoyable for my dayflight whereas the guys in row 2 appeared to be almost pinned up against the bulkhead in comparison! Obviously 2D offers the best amount of space, but see my United point  Wink


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RE: Bulkhead Seat In Business Class, Good Or Bad?

Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:59 pm

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 12):
On one United flight I had too much legroom (longhaul 763). If I had anything in the seat pocket I had to get up and retrieve it.

Go Go Gadget Arms !  Big grin

Serious: I had the same "problem" on DL 's B/E on B763ER and B772 and I already have looong arms ...

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 12):
The seats beside the window had the best compromise.

B747 upper deck with those boxes below the windows. Cu-ft of storage space and all accessible during all stages of the flight.
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RE: Bulkhead Seat In Business Class, Good Or Bad?

Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:40 am

Quoting Paul (Reply 11):
Thanks for the tip Chris. The legroom as you said does look the same as the seat behind, I am 6ft 3 so need as much legroom as I can get. I assume you have flown on LH's new product. What did you think of it, service and food esp? How were the lounges at FRA, can u recommend me one, there are about 4 and I hear some of them are pretty crap..........?

The seat was very comfortable with lots of different ways to move the various parts of it. There is a comprehensive guide in the seat pocket which is well worth reading as it shows you all the cubby holes and seat features. The avod system was good but didn't seem to have much decent stuff on it (just my taste though) and has some games. Food wasn't bad or brilliant, a nice touch was they showed you the starters so you could choose which one you liked the look of.
Service was efficient and had no complaints.
I transferred through MUC so can't comment on the FRA lounges , the MUC one best described as grey!, just a large room with lots of grey leather seats and no view.

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