amirs
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Longest 747-400 Non ER Route

Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:32 pm

Just thought we do one of these, since today they annonced they will stop to produce these fine aircrafts.

So what is the longest 747-400 route flown?


I know there are:
MEL - LAX 6883 nm QF
TLV - LAX 6581 nm LY (discontinued)
LAX - SFO 6445 nm UA, QF
SYD - JNB 6336nm QF
HKG - LAX 6309 nm CX

What are some other?
Was JNB - ATL, iAD or JFK done ever nonstop with a 744?
 
britannia191a
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RE: Longest 747-400 Non ER Route

Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:41 pm

In 1996 United Airlines started Chicago to Hong Kong - 7788miles. that must be the longest, 15hrs 37mins, or is this with an ER version?

Leg 1 - United Airlines 895
Departure Chicago (O'Hare), IL (ORD)
Departure Time 12:18
Arrival Hong Kong (HKG)
Arrival Time 16:55+1
Aircraft Type 744
Meal Lunch, Lunch
Distance 7789mi / 12462km
Duration 15h37m
Operated By United Airlines
 
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RE: Longest 747-400 Non ER Route

Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:00 pm

I flew on South African Airways from Miami to Cape Town in 1997 aboard a 747-400 (non-ER) version which was 7666 miles each way. It was about 14:45 each way. That was definately one of the longest.
 
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RE: Longest 747-400 Non ER Route

Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:06 pm

Quoting Amirs (Thread starter):
Was JNB - ATL, iAD or JFK done ever nonstop with a 744?

Yes, SA used to operate ATL-JNB (7334 nm), ATL-CPT (7064 nm) and JFK-JNB (6925 nm). These were only nonstop eastbound (the westbound JNB flights stopped at SID, and the CPT flight stopped at FLL), but I believe they were the longest nonstop 744 routes--ER or non--that were operated regularly. As I have mentioned on other threads, I wish SA would reinstate the JFK-JNB nonstop--it is really a step backwards to have to stop at DKR both ways now!

ORD-HKG was also operated with a regular 744, but was "only" 6773 nm. Still, I believe that would have been the longest nonstop non-ER 744 route flown nonstop in both directions. I remember reading that they towed the aircraft to the runway at ORD so they wouldn't waste fuel taxiing!
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RE: Longest 747-400 Non ER Route

Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:16 pm

Quoting Amirs (Thread starter):
LAX - SFO 6445 nm UA, QF

WOW! LAX to SFO "6445 nm"? Big grin

LAX is less than 500 miles away from SFO.  Wink

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britannia191a
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RE: Longest 747-400 Non ER Route

Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:31 pm

Quoting FoxBravo (Reply 3):
ORD-HKG was also operated with a regular 744, but was "only" 6773 nm. Still, I believe that would have been the longest nonstop non-ER 744 route flown nonstop in both directions. I remember reading that they towed the aircraft to the runway at ORD so they wouldn't waste fuel taxiing!

Why do you say was, my reply above is current and they say 7789 miles where do you get "only 6773"
 
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RE: Longest 747-400 Non ER Route

Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:44 pm

Quoting Amirs (Thread starter):
I know there are:
MEL - LAX 6883 nm QF
TLV - LAX 6581 nm LY (discontinued)
LAX - SFO 6445 nm UA, QF
SYD - JNB 6336nm QF
HKG - LAX 6309 nm CX



Quoting AirplaneFan (Reply 4):
WOW! LAX to SFO "6445 nm"?

LAX is less than 500 miles away from SFO.

AirplaneFan

hahaha um I'm thinking that should be SYD-SFO not LAX-SFO...  Wink
NZ does AKL-SFO which is pretty far but not quite as far as QFs flights.
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RE: Longest 747-400 Non ER Route

Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:48 pm

Quoting Britannia191A (Reply 5):
Why do you say was, my reply above is current and they say 7789 miles where do you get "only 6773"

The "standard" used is, I believe, either nautical miles or kilometer not statute miles. The figure 6773 is probably nautical miles.
 
amirs
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RE: Longest 747-400 Non ER Route

Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:01 am

Quoting AirplaneFan (Reply 4):
WOW! LAX to SFO "6445 nm"?

LAX is less than 500 miles away from SFO.

AirplaneFan

Sorry, that was suppose to be SYD - SFO.

Lets stick to NAUTICAL MILES (nm) - so we are all comparing the same.
 
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RE: Longest 747-400 Non ER Route

Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:19 am

LAX-HKG UA? 6309NM
ATL-ICN Korean 6215NM
LAX-MNL 6348NM Philippines?

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RE: Longest 747-400 Non ER Route

Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:33 am

I think if you look at the headwind component on the LAX-HKG segment, it actually is longer than the LAX-MEL segment. While the LAX-MEL segment has some headwinds, it doesn't approach the velocity that you normally see going to HKG from the US.
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