vinniewinnie
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Best European Hub For Connecting Passengers?

Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:06 am

Hi everyone,

I was wondering which airport(s) in your opinion is the best hub for connecting passengers? Which airport(s) do you think deserves a gold medal and which one(s) do you think deserve the thump down?

The reason I am asking this question is because I just experienced Zurich as a Hub and I was pretty amazed! I was flying from Athens to London via Zurich and thought that the facilities were impressive, the duty free zone was varied and interesting and that going through security was a breeze! This was only my 2nd experience after Madrid from which I don't remember much!

Thinking back about my home airport (Brussels) I really don't understand how BRU could become a nice quick efficient HUB when Sabena was still around! Separating Schengen and non Schengen flight is pretty ridiculous since connecting from one flight to the other would take at least 30 to 40 mins with plenty of stress since BRU has only 2 long piers (A-B) connected with each other with only one tunnel at the beginning of the pier!

Sorry if this question has been asked before...
 
DLPMMM
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RE: Best European Hub For Connecting Passengers?

Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:53 am

ZRH and VIE are probably the best.

AMS is good except for the extra security checks required in intercontinental flights, and stupid revolving doors at the gates leading to the busses for the remote "cityhopper" flights.

LHR, and LGW absolutely suck, as they will force the checking of your second carry-on bag. I didn't think it was possible for a country to have a more obnoxious security system than the USA.

CDG is mentioned somewhere in Dante's "Inferno", and I think it was around the 6th level of hell. CDG is probably the worst in the world.
 
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RE: Best European Hub For Connecting Passengers?

Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:02 am

Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 1):
CDG is mentioned somewhere in Dante's "Inferno", and I think it was around the 6th level of hell. CDG is probably the worst in the world.

Do a search on "The Worlds 10 Travel Gates of Hell" from a couple of years back and you'll find the reference. How about we form a people's army and hold military style tribunals for ADP, the useless 'fonctionaires' who run CDG? Mind you, try being an international transit passenger at any US airport. That is in a league of its own.....


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Viscount724
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RE: Best European Hub For Connecting Passengers?

Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:09 am

From my personal connecting experience, and all within the past year except for FRA and CPH:

1. ZRH
2. AMS
3. MUC
4. FRA
5. CPH
6. CDG
7. LGW
8. LHR
 
Matt1167
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RE: Best European Hub For Connecting Passengers?

Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:16 am

The only two airports in Europe which I've used for connecting flights are KEF and AMS.

I thought AMS wasn't too bad, especially for an airport of its size. It certainly was better than, say, ORD, for example.

I used KEF when I travelled JFK-CDG via KEF (Icelandair), and I must say, KEF was definately one of the better, if not the best, airports I've ever connected through. The terminal, although a bit small, had enough to keep me content for the 1:30 layover, and the connections from US cities to European cities are excellently timed, since the US flights arrive in the morning and the European flights depart in the morning.

From my experiences, I would definately rate KEF the best in Europe for connecting.
 
mainMAN
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RE: Best European Hub For Connecting Passengers?

Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:37 am

Ultimately it depends which hub you're used to. I've only ever connected through AMS and FRA, and AMS is pretty easy, although I always seem to be late arriving there and have to run through it.
 
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RE: Best European Hub For Connecting Passengers?

Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:40 am

AMS...without a doubt.

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krje1980
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RE: Best European Hub For Connecting Passengers?

Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:01 am

In my opinion, AMS and CPH are by far the best. AMS because of the variety of options to keep yourself occupied with, as well as the ease in navigating the airport despite its size. CPH because of its beautfiul interior design as well as its cozy and laid-back atmosphere compared to behemots such as FRA or CDG (by far the worst airport I have ever encountered).
 
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RE: Best European Hub For Connecting Passengers?

Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:05 am

Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 1):
ZRH and VIE are probably the best.

When I used VIE it seemed that each gate had its own security check point and equipment and teams moved from gate to gate as planes began boarding. Does VIE have sterile transit facilities or do transit pax get a second security check?

LHR is one to avoid.
 
andaman
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RE: Best European Hub For Connecting Passengers?

Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:11 pm

ACI, Airports Council International, ranked the European airports 2006 like this: Worlds Best Airports 2007 (by WINGS Mar 14 2007 in Civil Aviation)

1. Brussels
2. Zurich
3. Helsinki

Helsinki has been ranked high especially for the quick and easy transit services (especially Europe-Asia).
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RE: Best European Hub For Connecting Passengers?

Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:59 pm

Well, AMS is great, although it's very big.

I'd imagine CPH is great as well, it's layout seem very efficient for connections, although I have only used it as starting/ending point, and for that, it's just excellent.

KEF is a eralier said a great airport to connect in. Everything is running smoothly, and you have enough to do for the 1-2 hours of waiting, but there is not much to spot besides FI 757's and an occasional american jet fighter.

CDG...Well, It has gone up on my list since I've visited LGW. CDG is messy, dirty, hard to navigate, rude people all over, but when you know it, you can get through it pretty fast, and have never lost my luggage, even with 2 times 45 minute connections including terminal switch. I'd prefer other airports, but the service of AF usually makes me go through CDG anyway.

LGW. What a hellhole. Crowded, stupid ridiculous BAA security stuff. Old and ugly as well. Designed for cramping people. Then comes all the arguments making it a sucker airport when O&D'ing. I have never been to LHR, it's probably worse!!
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Doona
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RE: Best European Hub For Connecting Passengers?

Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:36 pm

I agree with, well, everyone that CDG is probably the worst. Talk about security checkpoints turning into passenger bottle-necks, and in the two times I've been there, it has always taken more than 40 mins to get through security. Luckily, some airlines have understood this and send staff members to prowl the security lines to fetch people... So, instead of solving the problem, they just let people who are running a little late cut in line, even though it's often the line that's the reason for the delay... It's absurd, really.

AMS is alright, I've never had any major problems there.

MUC and FRA are good. Easy to navigate, plenty of gate-adjacent amenities.

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RE: Best European Hub For Connecting Passengers?

Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:45 pm

I find MUC to be excellent, CPH too.

Conversely i find FRA to be a bit of a pain.

I cant speak for LHR as i only use that to start or finish my flights, but i suspect it is god awful. Hopefully T5 will improve matters - at least from a BA perspective.
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RE: Best European Hub For Connecting Passengers?

Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:11 am

I really like CPH. Even with the new addition, they have designed it to be on one floor with plenty of shops and food courts to spend your time for the connection.

My second choice would be Helsinki. Not as big as CPH, but also on one floor with a decent array of shops to waste your time.

CDG is very hard to navigate from terminal to terminal. I had a 45 minute connection to PRG and the incoming aircraft parked on the ramp and we had to be bussed to some obscure door without any markings. Once inside, I followed the signs to the departure ramp which included going OUTSIDE again with no security in sight and then back through another door for the new security check-in. I made it, though.

I don't like Brussels because of the up and down escallator bit and walking for miles. I also don't like LHR Terminal 1 where the ceilings are just above your head, giving it that claustrophobic feeling. LGW is all right, because I'm usually going on vacation from there and all that matters is whether the connecting flight is on time.

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