CXfirst
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Emirates Or South African Airways PER-NBO?

Wed May 02, 2007 9:34 pm

I am wondering what is best to fly to Kenya from Perth? We are planning to fly on the 28th of September, and back the 6th/7th of October. EK will be on the 3-4-3 configured 77W/772 to DXB (which we have flown on before) and the A332/A343 to NBO (flown on the EK A343 before). According to www.flysaa.com the Perth leg on SA will have been upgraded from the A342 to the A343, which has AVOD and such. Additionally, what is the is the chance that we will get A343 large?

South African Airways

- will add points to star alliance FF cards (figured out I will have a total of 46,000 points  Sad )
- Dad has gold card, so we will get lounge access.
- a carrier I have not flown on before
- narrowbody on NBO leg, with only overhead video
- group of four, and we like windows, so the 2-4-2 configuration is a plus.

Emirates

- Does add points to our skywards cards, but we have extremely little from before.
- ICE IFE on PER-DXB leg.
- widebody with non-AVOD but PTV to NBO
- Presuming DXB is better to transit at than JNB (been at DXB, but not at JNB)

-PRICES ARE VERY SIMILAR (EK ticket cost more, but less tax, so it evens it out)

What should we chose?

Thanks for any replies...

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RE: Emirates Or South African Airways PER-NBO?

Thu May 03, 2007 2:58 am

It prices are similar/same I would go on the carrier I have never flown on. Product wise I don't see a big difference. However, where did you get the point that PER has been upgraded to 343s? If not mistaken, there are still 342 used on that route, at least from time to time and they don't feature PTVs.

Distance and Time are no factor? I didn't check the connecting times at DXB or JNB but the distance via JNB is nearly 1000 miles.

2 segment path: 7814 mi
NBO (01°19'09"S 36°55'40"E) DXB (25°15'10"N 55°21'52"E) 32° (NE) 2205 mi
DXB (25°15'10"N 55°21'52"E) PER (31°56'25"S 115°58'01"E) 131° (SE) 5609 mi
vs.
From To Initial
Heading Distance
2 segment path: 6975 mi
NBO (01°19'09"S 36°55'40"E) JNB (26°08'21"S 28°14'46"E) 197° (S) 1802 mi
JNB (26°08'21"S 28°14'46"E) PER (31°56'25"S 115°58'01"E) 118° (SE) 5173 mi

No doubt, I would go for SAA.
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RE: Emirates Or South African Airways PER-NBO?

Thu May 03, 2007 4:46 am

I think I would go with Emirates on this one. Emirates' service is among the world's best (although their seats on the 777 are narrow) while South African is relatively average compared to other airlines (although it's one of the best in Africa).
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RE: Emirates Or South African Airways PER-NBO?

Thu May 03, 2007 4:52 am

Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 2):
I think I would go with Emirates on this one. Emirates' service is among the world's best (although their seats on the 777 are narrow) while South African is relatively average compared to other airlines (although it's one of the best in Africa).

I have never seen a big difference in the Service of EK and many other carriers, including South African Airways. What I get on SA is at least as good as on EK. I even think that EK (and QR) are fare too much overrated, compared to many other carriers (mainly European and Asian, SA included).
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CXfirst
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RE: Emirates Or South African Airways PER-NBO?

Thu May 03, 2007 8:36 am

Quoting Swissgabe (Reply 1):
It prices are similar/same I would go on the carrier I have never flown on. Product wise I don't see a big difference. However, where did you get the point that PER has been upgraded to 343s? If not mistaken, there are still 342 used on that route, at least from time to time and they don't feature PTVs.

On the SA website, when I checked PER-NBO in late September it says equiptment = A343 (A340-300)

How likely is it that it will be the A343?

Thanks for the replies

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RE: Emirates Or South African Airways PER-NBO?

Fri May 04, 2007 6:37 pm

Just to add to the question, how is the SA AVOD, and how is the SA 738 in general?

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RE: Emirates Or South African Airways PER-NBO?

Sun May 06, 2007 1:34 am

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 4):
On the SA website, when I checked PER-NBO in late September it says equiptment = A343 (A340-300)

How likely is it that it will be the A343?

Quite, but some days are still operated with 342. It might change to an all 343 operation but you never know.
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RE: Emirates Or South African Airways PER-NBO?

Mon May 14, 2007 12:31 am

I only have experience with SA. I liked service in econ and as long as I can avoid a 777 with 10 seats in a row, SA for me would be 1st choice. From what I've been told so far EK's econ is not really better than that of other premium carriesrs. EK's product seems to be overrated...just what lots of poeple with EK-experience told me....
 
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RE: Emirates Or South African Airways PER-NBO?

Mon May 14, 2007 5:16 am

Well , IMO EK's 10 abreast is not all too bad. Flown JNB-DXB-JNB on EK and it was a very pleasant experience.

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 4):
On the SA website, when I checked PER-NBO in late September it says equiptment = A343 (A340-300)

How likely is it that it will be the A343?

Ok just checked for you. On the 28th of September SA281 , PER-JNB , is scheduled to be an A343. On the 6th of October SA280 , JNB-PER , is scheduled to be an A343. The A343 and A342 are alternated on this route but luckily those 2 days are being operated by SAA's A343E's. For example, on the 5th of October , SA280 is scheduled to be operated by an A342.

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RE: Emirates Or South African Airways PER-NBO?

Tue May 15, 2007 1:16 pm

Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 2):
Emirates' service is among the world's best

care to qualify that? Emirates is a good airline and nothing more than that. You're going to Africa, go with an African carrier...the carrier was supposed to revert to A343 on 1 may but this hasn't happened as yet.
 
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RE: Emirates Or South African Airways PER-NBO?

Sat May 19, 2007 7:13 am

How about PER-JNB on SA and KQ on JNB-NBO?

Or PER-BKK then BKK-ADD-NBO on ET?

[Edited 2007-05-19 00:14:35]
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RE: Emirates Or South African Airways PER-NBO?

Sat May 19, 2007 7:35 am

I would go South African.
1) There's more chance to use the points you gain
2) Lounge access during transfer
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RE: Emirates Or South African Airways PER-NBO?

Sat May 19, 2007 8:29 am

How about PER-BKK-NBO
BKK-NBO on KQ
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RE: Emirates Or South African Airways PER-NBO?

Sat May 19, 2007 9:58 am

Quoting Soups (Reply 10):
How about PER-JNB on SA and KQ on JNB-NBO?

Or PER-BKK then BKK-ADD-NBO on ET?



Quoting Soups (Reply 12):
How about PER-BKK-NBO
BKK-NBO on KQ

KQ and ET are hard to book from Australia. We preffer one-stop, so PER-BKK-ADD-NBO is out of the question.

Recent developments in our safari planning is that we might be flying to Mount Kilimanjaro, and SA will be the only choice. However, nothing is final yet.

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RE: Emirates Or South African Airways PER-NBO?

Sun May 20, 2007 8:35 am

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 13):
KQ and ET are hard to book from Australia

KQ have various fare agreements with QF/BA/CX/TG out of NZ (and prob Oz as well) using those carriers up to either HKG or BKK and then KQ onward. I think ET just use TG & CX as fare partners.
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