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Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:58 pm

So I'm doing a round-the-world trip in February 08 and for my return back to Australia, I'm undecided as to which city I should stop over at, either Bangkok or Hong Kong. I'll be going to Auckland, Los Angeles, New York City, London and it's just a matter of choosing between these two cities that I have never visited before.

I ideally want a relatively cheap destination, so not too expensive. I want the city to be safe. I love shopping, however I will be in Los Angeles, New York and London so I'll be shopped out, so I'll mainly be looking for things I cannot get in those cities. (cough **Fakes** cough). I'll only be stopping over for 3 days, and I only speak English so I ideally want to go where they speak English more so than Thai or Cantonese. I'd also be by myself, so I want to go where I can meet alot of USA, UK, NZ, Canadian and Australian expats/tourists to mingle and party with.

A place where taxis are cheap and everything is rather centrally located (like Singapore).

Any opinions and preferences would be much appreciated.


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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:42 pm

If I had to choose I pick BKK. ?

There is certainly a lot see.

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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:19 pm

I would definitely choose BKK, plenty of things to see and do, a great eating experience, and plenty of 'designer'  wink  shopping if that's what floats your boat.

There are plenty of superb hotels too if your budget will permit; Hyatt, Sheraton, Intercontinental .... all very good!

Quoting AA7295 (Thread starter):
so I want to go where I can meet alot of USA, UK, NZ, Canadian and Australian expats/tourists

Isn't the whole idea of a holiday to get away from the everyday norm? - I do my very best to avoid my native county folk when I go on my hols!
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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:20 pm

I would go for Bangkok too.....
 
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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:24 pm

I'd have to say Bangkok, lots to do and see, great genuine fakes, fantastic food and the city knows how to party. Hope you have a nice time.

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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:34 pm

Quoting Swiftski (Reply 4):
Swiftski From Hong Kong SAR

And this is not in any way a biased view of course ....  wink 
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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:34 pm

I say go for Bangkok.

Very much to see and to do in BKK
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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:12 pm

Quoting AA7295 (Thread starter):
I ideally want a relatively cheap destination, so not too expensive

Bangkok, dirt cheap. Ask Superfly, he can add to that and give you some tips on what to do.
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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:35 pm

Thanks guys, so what about the language barrier? Do the majority of people in Bangkok speak English? Is it safe for a 19yo male to be by himself in the city?

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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:58 pm

Quoting AA7295 (Reply 10):
Thanks guys, so what about the language barrier? Do the majority of people in Bangkok speak English?

No, but people you will get into contact as a tourist will (sufficient levels).

Bangkok or Hong Kong ?
Bangkok is the cheaper place of the two and weather should be at its best in February. Avoid Bangkok from April on due to start of monsoon season and high temps.
If you are looking into the more *exotic* culture (including buildings), go to Bangkok.

Hong Kong:
Is more expensive.
Is rather cold in February (might be freezing during nights in the New Territories) with day temps around 15 °C / 60 F.
Is the more organized city which can be explored on public transport more easily.
Has the bonus of the Star Ferry and other means to cross the harbour.

While I have been to both cities, I visited Bangkok only once (on other occasions I just landed at BKK and made a beeline out of city), but have made many return visits to Hong Kong.

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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:24 pm

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 2):
One night in Bangkok make the hard man humble.... Three makes him all fucked out.

I don't understand what you're saying? Are you referring to prostitution or that I'll be bored or tired?

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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:44 pm

Go to Hong Kong hands down. I did both last year. Bangkok is inexpensive, has good food and for the most part goregous women. On the other hand, it is dirty, and not as sophisitcaed IMHO as Hong Kong.

Oh and stay on Hong Kong Island.
 
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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:25 pm

Quoting Asuflyer05 (Reply 13):
Oh and stay on Hong Kong Island.

Nah', stay in southern TST (Tsim Sha Tsui) and take a walk to the waterfront in the evening and enjoy the views onto HK Island ...
At least that is my preference.

Quoting AA7295 (Reply 12):
Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 2):One night in Bangkok make the hard man humble.... Three makes him all fucked out.
I don't understand what you're saying? Are you referring to prostitution or that I'll be bored or tired?

"One night in Bangkok makes the hard man humble" is a quote from song "One night in Bangkok" performed by Murray Head from musical Chess.

http://lirama.net/song/37303 and http://lirama.net/song/15353
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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:43 am

Bangkok is where you should head.

Cheap, easy to get around, safe(I feel safer in BKK than London), plenty of people yr age at Khao Sarn Rd full of bars, clubs & people partying.

Tons of shopping from Markets to air con malls. The big weekend market at Chatuchak is not to be missed. Interesting shopping in Chinatown along Sampeng Lane.

Plenty of cheap cheap safe to eat food.

Hong Kong is nice but only worth doing if you've got the cash or want to go broke. A drink in a bar in Hong Kong is the same price as a night at a decent BKK backpackers, with change left for a plate of Pad Thai & a beer from the 7-11.

Bangkok is safe, people are friendly & speak English in the areas you'll be going, signs are in English. Transport like rivertaxi, skytrain, taxi are all cheap.

Common sense is yr best friend so no dark alleys or ping pong shows & always check the adams apple.
 
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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:54 pm

I am currently in Bangkok and this place rocks!!! I have been to Hong Kong twice and it's kinda boring compared to BKK. Yes, BKKis hot and humid, and the traffic can be quite heavy. But the Thai people are incredibly friendly and there is so much to do in Bangkok! The night life is legendary (trust me on that  Big grin ) and there is so much to do during the daytime. BKK is also very safe. It is one of the great cities of the world. You won't be disappointed!

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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:24 am

Quoting AA7295 (Thread starter):
I'll only be stopping over for 3 days, and I only speak English so I ideally want to go where they speak English more so than Thai or Cantonese. I'd also be by myself, so I want to go where I can meet alot of USA, UK, NZ, Canadian and Australian expats/tourists to mingle and party with.
Hate to say it but you're better off staying at home in Sydney.
If you do want to go to Bangkok and hang out with other young tourist, there is Khaosan Road. That is were all the hippie backpackers stay.
Hong Kong is nice but more expensive.

Quoting Asuflyer05 (Reply 12):
Go to Hong Kong hands down. I did both last year. Bangkok is inexpensive, has good food and for the most part goregous women. On the other hand, it is dirty, and not as sophisitcaed IMHO as Hong Kong.
I can't understand how a young man would value sophistication and clean city over inexpensive, good food and gorgeous women. ??

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 8):
Bangkok, dirt cheap. Ask Superfly, he can add to that and give you some tips on what to do.
Just be yourself as I do when I travel. Make sure your taxi driver doesn't try to over-charge your or chase you down naked. It happend to me once.

[Edited 2007-09-17 22:24:58]
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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:02 pm

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 8):
Bangkok, dirt cheap. Ask Superfly, he can add to that and give you some tips on what to do.

Yes but you want to get away from Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy at least part of the time.  Big grin

BKK hands down for me. You can get some good hotel deals on www.hoteltravel.com.

If you stay on Sukhumvit Road you are close to the Skytrain and also the Subway (the trafic is horrendous, don't even think of driving)

A couple of tips:

Expensive Mall - Emporium (Phrtom Phong Skytrain or Sukhumvit subway and a walk)
Good for IT - Pantip Plaza or Fortune Town on Ratchada
Good nightlife - Sukhunmvit Road, Soi Cowboy. (Asok Skytrain, Sukhumvit Subway) Avoid Patpong (Silom Skytrain but I don't recommend it) unless you want to be ripped off or picked up by a girl with "non-standard" equipment.
Good shopping - Ratchada Road (Phra Ram 9 or Cultural Centre Subway)

Good Touristy stuff - don't miss the Grand Palace/ Wat Pra Keow. Best go for a tour, your hotel should be able to fix you up.

Beware - Gem shops are a favourite scam.

A good site for you: www.bangkokbob.net .
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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:49 pm

Quoting Helvknight (Reply 17):
Yes but you want to get away from Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy at least part of the time.

Sounds like Khaosan is AA7295's speed.
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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:42 am

Having spent a good while in BKK and some time (3 days) in HKG, I'd personally prefer HKG. However, if it were an option I'd choose SIN (our favourite in S. E. Asia) over both BKK and HKG.
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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:35 am

BKK, no question. HKG is interesting but too expensive and in my opinion the Thais are more polite and service-oriented towards foreigners. Good hotels are also generally cheaper in BKK than HKG. Taxis are cheap, but be careful not to get ripped off by an unlicensed taxi from the airport which sometimes try to take advantage of tourists who don't know how much the fare should be.
 
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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:36 pm

Despite what the consensus is in this forum. I have decided to go to Hong Kong. The reasoning is that I am only going to be in the city for 3 days. And that I aim to visit the WHOLE of Thailand on a holiday in itself. (It's on my to-do list that I ride and elephant and go to a full-moon party..... oh and also play with a tiger)

Now for all those HKG phenes, gimme your recommendations on cheap places to stay. Nice, HEALTHY (I've already had one tape worm from Mainland China) places to heat Cantonese cuisine, and most importantly, the places to shop and go party and meet other expats!!!

Shoot away!

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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:17 pm

Quoting AA7295 (Reply 21):
Despite what the consensus is in this forum. I have decided to go to Hong Kong. The reasoning is that I am only going to be in the city for 3 days.

Good man. I'm sitting on my roof overlooking the bay, it's stunning tonight, even with light rain.
 
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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:04 am

Quoting HT (Reply 13):
Nah', stay in southern TST (Tsim Sha Tsui) and take a walk to the waterfront in the evening and enjoy the views onto HK Island ...
At least that is my preference.

The Peninsula?  Silly



Do you really need to taxi everywhere? The MTR is great.. and cheap.. Just grab an Octopus Card and you can even go and buy your groceries with it! Then cash it in once you're about to fly out.

You could possibly cross the border into Shenzhen and do a bit of cheap shopping there (cheaper than HK for the things you're after but they still rip you off)

Yum Char for breakfast - that's one thing you don't get down here and it's a new experience!
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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:28 am

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 23):
You could possibly cross the border into Shenzhen and do a bit of cheap shopping there (cheaper than HK for the things you're after but they still rip you off)

Would I need a Mainland Chinese Visa for that or would they give it to me at the entry? I've been to Shanghai & Beijing before. Is Shenzen better shopping?

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Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:12 am

Quoting AA7295 (Reply 24):
Would I need a Mainland Chinese Visa for that or would they give it to me at the entry? I've been to Shanghai & Beijing before. Is Shenzen better shopping?

It's dirt cheap. My house here is in Sai Kung but I can be in Shenzen in 1 hour. Great feeling, as you walk over the border. Going in about 30 mins to pick up some stuff.

Yes, you'll need a Visa.
 
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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:21 am

Quoting Swiftski (Reply 25):
Yes, you'll need a Visa.

Can I get it at the entry, or should I get it at a local Chinese consulate?

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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:14 am

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 23):
Quoting HT (Reply 13):
Nah', stay in southern TST (Tsim Sha Tsui) and take a walk to the waterfront in the evening and enjoy the views onto HK Island ...
At least that is my preference.

The Peninsula?

I have stayed at
- New World Renaissance
- Sheraton
- The Hong Kong
- The Kimberley
- Stanford Hillview

Quoting AA7295 (Reply 21):
gimme your recommendations on cheap places to stay. Nice, HEALTHY

Hotel BP Intenational in TST used to be a more affordable one, but if you could give us a range of HKD to spend per night, we might better able to search for hotels.
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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:04 pm

I'm probably looking to spend around AU$100 - $120 per night. I've heard good things about the Ramada. Thoughts?

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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:43 am

Quoting Helvknight (Reply 17):
Good nightlife - Sukhunmvit Road, Soi Cowboy. (Asok Skytrain, Sukhumvit Subway) Avoid Patpong (Silom Skytrain but I don't recommend it) unless you want to be ripped off or picked up by a girl with "non-standard" equipment

Spot on, sadly Cowboy was closed when we were downing Sangsom with Superfly a few months ago.  Sad

Quoting AA7295 (Thread starter):
so I want to go where I can meet alot of USA, UK, NZ, Canadian and Australian expats/tourists to mingle and party with.

Bound to find plenty of expats in Wanchai watering holes like Fenwick's but the booze and other fun costs 5x the prices of Helvknight's recommendation above.  Embarrassment
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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:30 am

Stay clear of Chinese New Year which is on 07-FEB in 2008, as hotel rates usually go up considerably.

Quoting AA7295 (Reply 28):
I'm probably looking to spend around AU$100 - $120 per night.

For those people that are as uninformed as me, 100-120 AUD = 62-74 EUR = 88-105 USD .

Quoting AA7295 (Reply 28):
I've heard good things about the Ramada. Thoughts?

There are 2 Ramada's in Hong Kong, one in Kowloon (Tsim Sha Tsui), the other one on Hong Kong Island. The one in Kowloon should be the more affordable one.

Reviews: Are you aware of site www.tripadvisor.com ? Ramada Kowloon sounds more or less okay.

Expedia shows hotels in the price range you specified, but many of them are in less-central parts of the city. But as long as there is a Metro around, this should be no problem.

The location of the BP International is quite good, but I haven't used it so far.
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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Fri Sep 28, 2007 1:54 pm

I'd stay in Kowloon. I stayed at the Sheraton, and OMG the views from my room were amazing. It was around US$200 per night, but I felt given the views, it was a steal. Kowloon has the awesome views, MTR, close to everything.

The MTR is great - I'd use that and skip the taxis.

A few "must sees":
- Avenue of the Stars at night
- Victoria Peak (night and day)
- Star Ferry
- Temple Street

I spent three days there myself, as follows:
Day 1: Victoria Peak, Temple Street, Shopping, Kowloon
Day 2: Central, Statue Square, etc.
Day 3: Ngong Ping Skyrail, Big Buddha

The only thing I was disappointed with was the markets. There were fakes, but they were of such poor quality that I would never have wasted money on them. BKK is much better from what I've heard.
 
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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:36 pm

So Kowloon is better to stay for 3 days? Better than HK Island. So is HK Island where the the Bank of China Tower is and the CBD area?

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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:12 pm

Quoting AA7295 (Reply 32):
So is HK Island where the the Bank of China Tower is and the CBD area?

Correct.

I found that Kowloon offers a bit more of distraction to the traveller than Central on HK Island.
Wan Chai on HK Island would be the next best thing, but at Kowloon you have more and easier options for public transport incl. more sailings of the Star Ferry.

Accomodation: Are infamous Chungking Mansions still in operation ? Wikipedia says so ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chungking_Mansions


BTW, a copy of the respective "Lonely Planet" guide book is alwys very handy in planning a travel and while there ...
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Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:20 am

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 29):
Spot on, sadly Cowboy was closed when we were downing Sangsom with Superfly a few months ago. Sad

Must have been for the King's birthday or something, it's open at the moment.

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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:24 am

Been to both BKK and HKG and I definetly recommend HKG. Although BKK is cheaper (esp. hotels), I don't find it as interesting and as well organized as HKG.
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RE: Bangkok Or Hong Kong For A 3-day Stopover?

Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:59 am

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 31):
Day 3: Ngong Ping Skyrail, Big Buddha

Currently not operating (one cable car fell off, thankfully it was empty and occured after close of business). AFAIK, they are changing operators from an Australian mob to the MTR Corporation.

If you want to feel like a kid again, head to Sunny Bay Disney Land resort.

Somewhere cheaper to stay? Try the Royal Plaza Mong Kok. Stayed there plenty of times. AMAZING breakfast. Good size (for HK) rooms, clean and safe. And you can walk to the Night Markets, Ladies' Market and I think the Wet Market is also nearby. MTR is 10 min covered walk away.

And should you choose to head to SHenzhen on the KCR, the station is right under the hotel (don't forget visa - can be arranged same day - just ask at the hotel or even at the airport as you arrive).

8pm every night - must see light show spectacular. Lots of lasers etc. off highrises. Best viewing? elevated platform in front of the Performing Arts complex.

Any more questions? Just ask!

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