tpa36r
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Tips For Choosing Flights To London?

Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:21 am

I'm looking for some tips to picking the best flights to London. I'm looking for the most for my money and want to try and stay as low as possible in the price category. Travel would happen sometime late Jan. or early Feb. of '08 and originating anywhere on the east coast. Any tips, tricks, or suggestions as to which carrier to take would be much appreciated!

[Edited 2007-09-18 04:26:22]
 
crj200faguy
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RE: Tips For Choosing Flights To London?

Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:09 pm

My suggestion is to fly to LGW. It is usually cheaper than Heathrow.
 
777STL
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RE: Tips For Choosing Flights To London?

Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:32 pm

AA will probably be having some killer sales here soon for off-season London travel. I paid low $3xxs last year for a trip in November.
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by188b
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RE: Tips For Choosing Flights To London?

Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:35 pm

Try AA on their new JFK - STN route, as its new you might get a cheap deal.
next flights : BD LHR-TXL J, FR SXF-STN Y, SN BRU-LHR Y, MA LHR-BUD Y, BA BUD-LHR J, BA LCY-SNN-JFK J, BA JFK-LHR J, BA
 
777STL
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RE: Tips For Choosing Flights To London?

Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:39 pm

Also, if you're open to connecting, you may be able to find a good deal to a gateway in Europe and then use an LCC to fly to London for cheaper than a US-London fare. Ireland typically has some great deals in the off-season from the airlines that fly there.
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tpa36r
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RE: Tips For Choosing Flights To London?

Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:11 pm

Quoting CRJ200FAGuy (Reply 1):
My suggestion is to fly to LGW. It is usually cheaper than Heathrow

Right now LHR is looking alot cheaper.

Keep them coming folks!
 
threeifbyair
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RE: Tips For Choosing Flights To London?

Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:14 pm

Kayak is showing $520 roundtrip for AA, $523 for BA, and not much more for everyone else on NYC-LON for a hypothetical 1/30/2008 - 2/13/2008 trip.

Fares appear to be quite cheap from everywhere to London this winter, even for those of us on the West Coast.

Good luck!
 
boswashsprstar
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RE: Tips For Choosing Flights To London?

Tue Sep 18, 2007 6:19 pm

Zoom has just started a "low-cost" JFK-LGW service, but I don't think it's actually much cheaper than the majors.

If "value for money" includes "cheap business class," SilverJet has also been running 2-for-1 sales on and off on their all-J EWR-Luton flights, which work out to $1000-$1200 per passenger.
 
CHRISBA777ER
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RE: Tips For Choosing Flights To London?

Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:01 pm

I assume you are travelling in Y.

VS have the best IFE (V-PORT - AVOD) in Y across the pond but legroom is pathetic. They give you an amenity kit and free drinks. Food is acceptable but nothing more.

BA have non-AVOD IFE but it is more than adequate and they score big points by having slightly better legroom, better food, great service, and more choice of departures. Generally my airline of choice across the pond for the OneWorld points and the fact that I just prefer Terminal 4 at LHR - it is absolutely LIGHT YEARS ahead of T3 that VS use, which is an abject misery from beginning to end.

BD are excellent from IAD to MAN - they use the A332 and again, have a slightly older non-AVOD PTV system but very good legroom and service is very good indeed. Food is good and drinks are still free I believe. Plus you get to collect Star Alliance points. MAN is generally a nicer airport to fly through than LHR I find.

CO use the 752 EWR-LGW at the moment and I've heard they have top legroom, AVOD, and are very comfortable. Downside is of course that food is likely to be, as with many US carriers, laughably poor and you have to pay for your drinks. You get your SkyTeam points though.

DL use the 763ER JFK-LGW and they dont have PTVs at all. Legroom is poor, service is poor, and so is the food. You have to pay for your drinks as well. Never had a good international flight with DL. Avoid if you can, IMHO. You get your SkyTeam points though.

UA are very hit and miss. Their 772ERs are nice and although the PTVs arent AVOD they are fine and reliable. Food is borderline, but again, you have to pay for your drinks. Legroom is fine, and service is fairly good. Their 767s are not nice at all and their 744s are the same. I think the 744 does some IAD flights, the 767 does some JFK, and the 772 does the rest.

AA are generally quite good. PTV and seat is roughly the same as you'll find on BA, food is ok, and last time I flew with them i got my drinks free although I think they charge for them now. They use nothing but lovely new 772ERs on all their LHR routes and their LGW routes most of the time. Not sure if RDU-LGW is operating but you may get good fares in the back as they tend to be front-heavy on that route.

Dont know if DTW or MSP are too far west for you but I'd definitely consider NW to LGW. Their A330s are lovely and they have great AVOD in every seat. Food is acceptable and LGW is much nicer than LHR to use. I'd definitely look them up - service is a little "mature" but they are friendly enough and I really like their A330s.

US's A330s are also lovely but their 762s are ball-dissolvingly horrible. Service is ok but they are often late and food is only sometimes ok. Dont know what the free drink situation is at the moment but i'd need a few free drinks to make up for how God-awful their dirty, worn, knackered old 767s are - ancient seats, no PTV, stone age toilets etc. They fly PHL and I think IAD to LGW.

AI use the 744 JFK-LHR and they are sometimes very cheap. Worth checking out if only for the food which i've heard is quite good. An unpretensious "get on with things" airline - I like them. Not flown with them across the pond but have taken them DXB-DEL and they were ok.

Dont know much about Zoom as I havent flown them but I know they use the 763ER LGW-JFK and they have free food but you have to pay for your drinks. Dont know if they have PTVs but I would think they probably do.

AC is worth taking to LHR because their 77W does their Toronto route - ive heard it is sensational and is the best Y class product over the pond at the moment. Their 767s are in the process of being upgraded but dont bank on getting a new one, and if you get an old one they are ancient - only saving grace would be good food and acceptable legroom.

Also check out AF - have flown them twice over the pond and they are excellent in Y in my experience. Great food, free drinks, good IFE in their 777s, and service is classy and with a smile. Planes are spotless inside if not spotless outside and CDG an interesting airport to transit. They have almost an hourly shuttle to LHR using A320 and A321 so connections arent a problem.
What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
 
vv701
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RE: Tips For Choosing Flights To London?

Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:42 pm

BA are reporting weak Y class north Atlantic business (balanced by strong O&D premium class demand).

So keep your eyes open for special offers (on all airlines) outside of the holiday period. Regularly check the AA, AI, BA, CO, DL, KU, NW, UA and US - who said there was no competition on the US-UK North Atlantic route? - web sites.

Currently here in the UK BA are offering all inclusive fares on the LHR-JFK route throughout the winter period with holiday periods blanked 'from £239'. This is probably not great from an American perspective because of the current exchange rate. But their offers in the US might be a little better.
 
LAXorLGWonDL
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RE: Tips For Choosing Flights To London?

Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:49 pm

TPA36A,

I've had good luck finding lower fares when I travel Tues-Wed-Thurs on the outbound and try to do the same on the return. Using 29 JAN - 06 FEB on Expedia, I found the following:

ATL - LGW: DL- $612; US - $623; BA - $634
IAD - LGW: DL- $544; US: 544; UL - $555
JFK - LGW: DL - $493
JFK - LHR: AA: $504; BA: $527
EWR - LGW: US: $504

While I prefer to fly into Gatwick (habit more than anything), you can connect directly to the Tube and go into London very easily from Heathrow.

Happy flying! Enjoy London! Big grin
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Bongodog1964
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RE: Tips For Choosing Flights To London?

Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:51 pm

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 8):
BA have non-AVOD IFE but it is more than adequate

Isn't AVOD installed throughout the plane at the same time as New club world ? I know the new club world 747 I flew on back in May had AVOD in WTP
 
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RE: Tips For Choosing Flights To London?

Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:52 pm

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 8):
BD are excellent from IAD to MAN - they use the A332 and again, have a slightly older non-AVOD PTV system but very good legroom and service is very good indeed. Food is good and drinks are still free I believe. Plus you get to collect Star Alliance points. MAN is generally a nicer airport to fly through than LHR I find.

No MAN-IAD service though! If looking for east coast to MAN, then it's limited to DL 4 weekly 757 from JFK, BA daily 763 from JFK, CO 2 daily 757 from EWR and US daily A330 from PHL.
 
TPAnx
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RE: Tips For Choosing Flights To London?

Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:30 pm

Errr..assuming that there is some significance to your user name...nothing wrong with BA2166-2167..TPA-LGW-TPA..
very enjoyable flight...
TPAnx
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CHRISBA777ER
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RE: Tips For Choosing Flights To London?

Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:02 pm

Quoting David_itl (Reply 12):
Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 8):
BD are excellent from IAD to MAN - they use the A332 and again, have a slightly older non-AVOD PTV system but very good legroom and service is very good indeed. Food is good and drinks are still free I believe. Plus you get to collect Star Alliance points. MAN is generally a nicer airport to fly through than LHR I find.

No MAN-IAD service though! If looking for east coast to MAN, then it's limited to DL 4 weekly 757 from JFK, BA daily 763 from JFK, CO 2 daily 757 from EWR and US daily A330 from PHL.

When did they stop that?
What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
 
CHRISBA777ER
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RE: Tips For Choosing Flights To London?

Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:03 pm

Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 11):
Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 8):
BA have non-AVOD IFE but it is more than adequate

Isn't AVOD installed throughout the plane at the same time as New club world ? I know the new club world 747 I flew on back in May had AVOD in WTP

They have a new WTP and WT product??

News to me!
What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
 
speedbirdegjj
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RE: Tips For Choosing Flights To London?

Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:39 am

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 15):
They have a new WTP and WT product??

News to me

Same product Chris but as the new CW product is rolled out AVOD is available in all cabins. AVOD will certainly be available in all cabins on the 747 by the time the OP is travelling.
 
747fan
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RE: Tips For Choosing Flights To London?

Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:25 am

If you want a relatively cheap flight, you're best bet is probably Delta on JFK-LGW. You can usually get a coach fare for under $500 on this flight. As all of us on a.net probably know, they don't have PTV's on their 767's but do have leather seats. I flew DL transatlantic last fall and they were great (gasp!). They constantly came around w/ coffee, tea, and water, the food was good, the FA's were friendly and provided great service (gasp!), and the 767 was relatively comfortable (one of my flights was actually on a 777). It didn't have PTV's, just the mainscreen and aisle-mounted CRT's (soon to be LCD's) that showed 2 movies and TV programming, as well as the moving map during climbout, between programming, and during descent. The flight was DL21 CDG-ATL. Do give DL a try as they've been better lately. I know they've had some delay issues over this past summer, especially out of JFK, but you'll be flying during the low season. Plus JFK is an hour-long taxi ordeal in the evenings no matter who you fly on. Another airline that you could find a great deal on is Zoom on JFK-LGW.
 
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RE: Tips For Choosing Flights To London?

Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:44 am

Quoting 747fan (Reply 17):
one of my flights was actually on a 777). It didn't have PTV's,

I thought all DL 777s had PTVs?
What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
 
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RE: Tips For Choosing Flights To London?

Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:49 am

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 14):
When did they stop that?

BD stopped IAD a long time ago after moving a leased FI 757 on to it when they started flying to BOM.

They still fly ORD with the 332 from MAN.
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RE: Tips For Choosing Flights To London?

Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:00 am

Quoting ThreeIfByAir (Reply 6):
Kayak is showing $520 roundtrip for AA, $523 for BA, and not much more for everyone else on NYC-LON for a hypothetical 1/30/2008 - 2/13/2008 trip.

$500+ during that time of the year, and to LON, is nothing special. I wouldn't consider anything above $450, cheap.
 
DiscoverCSG
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RE: Tips For Choosing Flights To London?

Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:23 am

I'm surprise nobody has yet mentioned daylight eastbound flights:

AA: JFK-LHR, BOS-LHR (is this ending soon), ORD-LHR

BA: BOS-LHR, JFK-LHRx2, EWR-LHR

UA: IAD-LHR

VS: EWR-LHR, JFK-LHR


These flights leave in the morning, arriving at LHR in the evening. Since you would get up so early to get to the airport, you will be tired enough to go to bed when you arrive, and very conveniently, it will be bedtime!

Contrast this with the more traditional overnight eastbound flights. You are up all day at home, then get on the plane at suppertime. You fly 6-8 hours and are thinking "Gosh, it's past my bedtime" and then you land and it's breakfast time...you can't check into your hotel for hours, and you just want to sleep.

I've done two daylights, and both times I was good to get up the next morning for a full day in London!

By the way, good choice of destinations. The weather isn't tropical paradise, but it's a really interesting city.
 
chase
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RE: Tips For Choosing Flights To London?

Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:32 am

I just checked www.travelzoo.com, and found that BA are offering $179 each way on JFK-LHR. Some dates blocked, but sale goes through March. Full details at:
http://www.britishairways.com/travel/offerus115/public/en_us
 
tpa36r
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RE: Tips For Choosing Flights To London?

Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:57 pm

I appreciate all the tips guys! I'm excited about my first trip out of the US.We'll see what happens...  crossfingers 

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